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kyocool wrote:

Also i dont recall who said "not all fat people are unattractive"...yes ...yes they are there is infact no other way to get around it...theyre amorphous blobs there is nothing attractive about any of them physically in any way shape or form..just hideous bulks of mass


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wow. usually I respect your opinions but right now I would love to punch you in the face.

Fat people, are still people. They still have feelings and yes a lot of obesity is caused by general laziness, bad nutrition and little to no exercise. But a lot of it is caused by genetics or illness. (Pituitary Gland and Thyroid problems almost always lead to weight issues) That and most people who are fat, feel bad enough about it already. And most of that stems from people who judge them as being giant disgusting masses.

The morbidly obese...hmmm..that is a little different. It usually takes effort to become that big. You can't go from 200 lbs to 400 lbs overnight. That's somebody who really just doesn't care about their health or appearance. They let that happen. Instead of noticing the problem and taking proactive steps to correct it, they indulged in it. And once they became morbidly obese, it just became harder to exercise or do anything really.

Judging these people is ridiculous and serves no purpose. I understand having an opinion but I hope that no one actually goes up to fat people and says some of the things I've read. Refusing to shake their hands? Not wanting to even be friends with them?

And this intolerance is any better than racism? sexism? Where's the humanity...
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erm erm...we can be friends!!
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i dont like using the term fat i like to use "plump" i have a lot of friends who are plump.but there not over the top.
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there is also a lot of medical reasons why people can become overweight.... Fat if you will.
Are we talking overweight, or obese or Morbidly obese?
Thyroidism can cause weight gain or loss
Diabetes seriously affects your weight.
Mental imbalences (depression/anxiety) can cause weight gain or loss
The question is, really
What is fat, what is healthy and what is acceptable?
Body height and build have a lot to do with weight
I'm considered overweight, but you couldn't tell, becuase most of my weight is muscle (and my ghetto booty)
I will never be a size 2 because of my bones.
however, my best friend
she's considered healthy, her weight to height ratio is at the low end of the "standard" but she can't wear adult clothing (she's 27) and has to shop in the kids section because 00's fall off her..
People constantly ask me if she's anorexic (she not - bitch eats more than i do)
but when we go out to resaurants, people give me dirty looks because when i'm next to her i look huge, (large boned - there's a reason why i was in construction for awhile)
lol and they always assume we're a "couple" I have no idea why...
Weight is relative to the bone structure and build, so you can't go by any type of "standard" for weight.
Fat- IMO - is someone who doesn't have the normal human body shape.
round, floppy, (ew! - the visual of that!)
Morbidly obese - anyone over 400 pounds.
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pahh.. kyo is a jerk... at least i thought so in his first post i saw year or so ago... put me to that thought... but hes nice in his own way... im sure in real life hes decent person...ive grown to like him... his comments go to far for most people aota the time but its not always bad... just generaly

anyways... everything is intertwined.. genetics arent a crippling thing, alota the time they are positive take for instance me... im a riddilin fed kid they put me on when i was young an i hated them they ... the drugs i hated not the people...and i was a first or second grader ... or kindergarten... i dont even remember... but that was messed up.. anyways somehow i ended up over wait an its been a nuiisance to my personality and health since at least 3rd grade... fortanetly my bloodlines are strong an im around six foot with good health more or less... for many years still...

as far as food goes? ya it affects you and each person carryes different bloodlines and they mix and make different people... and they affect your personality emotions physical, etc...its just most of the time genetics are brought up its becuase of something negative... persoanly genetics tend to be cool to me and provide loads of strength an resolve. OH plus even if genetics hand yhou a painful card a few generations down of struggle and you tend to have real cool kids an grandkids for going through with it... unless its something lethall... thats just a horrible struggle...
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My sister is fat, upwards of 400 lbs. I can't say she is disgusting, because I honestly love her and feel kinda bad for her. No, she doesn't eat large portions or eat constantly like alot of people stereo type. She caught the fat gene in the family and unfortunately, wasn't able to control the growth with exercise. Now she is 34 years old, has two kids of her own and while she is very active, exercizing, moving constantly to take care of the kids and eating healthy she is slowly taking weight off...and I do mean slowly.

We forget to look outside the stereo typical box, some people are fat beyond their control (even with diet and exercise) due to genetics. Some people get fat due to lack of self control...for multiple reasons....the love of food, eating disorders (Gorging), some people even eat when they are sad, upset or depressed and before they know it they are on a binge diet of junk food and put on 50 lbs before they realized it but can't stop because they are in a "mode" and need actually pyschological help to overcome the obstacles that keep them at the fridge door. To some people food is like a drug, and will kill you just like a drug if you over indulge in it.

No there is nothing wrong with being fat, as long as they are clean, well groomed, and as healthy as can be. However, I won't say someone is disgusting because they are fat. I honestly try to be understanding and tolerant of everyone...because I have no right to judge them, especially since every persons reasons for the way they are differ.


Well I would first like to apologize if I insulted you personally or your sister. None the less I think that genetics is being used as a crutch. Obesity is -usually- yes, as in more often than not, genetics. Morbid obesity and severe morbid obesity on the other hand are not. Genetics makes things hard for them, and because I got my dad’s genes and dodged this bullet, I can’t comprehend how much harder. None the less you don’t get to be 400+ pounds by genes alone. It doesn’t happen.

You said your sister couldn’t help it. Then you said she is loosing fat slowly but surely. If she can loose fat she could’ve kept from getting it in the first place. This being said, food is like anything else. It can become an addiction. Not eating for a full day is bad for you, especially if you’re overweight. So those huge people are like (and I mean this very loosely, because they’re not doing anything illegal or hurting other people) drug addicts. Your sister (who I must praise here,) is like a recovering drug addict. The difference is that she has to have at least 1 taste a day or further exacerbate things. I can’t imagine a pot head quitting pot if he had to have just 1 joint a day….

None the less I praise overweight people who are going at their problem (It -is- a problem) They’re stronger than I am. (Though they probably weren’t so in the past. Me, if I got to 400 pounds, I’d just kill myself. This being said death doesn‘t scare me but being reliant on other people and unable to care for myself does. Hints I think the worst death possible is old age.)


rickkers wrote:

I hate fat people, becuase they always only think about themselves, they don't care what other people say, like: You should stop eating so much, because you are a fat fuck. And they would say ''Shut up bitch i have big bones. And in the bus they take 2 seats and won't get up for other old people.


What you’re forgetting is that fat people are jus that. People. People. Individuals. Flawed Human beings. Are you perfect? Then who are you to really judge them like that? Not that I’m above this, I’m being an turbo hypocrite here, but I still stand by that. Not all fat people are the same. I know plenty of fat people who are very generous compared to the average skinny person.




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dude most of you are really messed up
I am bipolar and there are meds that make you gain wait like mad
the last time I weighed in for wrestling I was 195
since the end of the season I have gained quite a bit and I run at least 3 miles in the morning
that is 12 times around the track and I do that in about 30-35 minutes
how many of you who weigh 120 can do that?


My mother is bipolar and I am well studied on the medications for it. (You aren’t raised by an emotionally unstable woman and remain ignorant of their condition and treatments.) Now it’s only bipolar one, which is a lesser form, but it’s still enough to make it where she cannot completely function without medication. Yes, some of it makes you gain weight, but it’s not half as bad as you’re suggesting it is. Stop fabricating things because it only worsens the situation and makes people even more prejudice against over weight people.


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rickkers wrote:

I hate fat people, becuase they always only think about themselves, they don't care what other people say, like: You should stop eating so much, because you are a fat fuck. And they would say ''Shut up bitch i have big bones. And in the bus they take 2 seats and won't get up for other old people.


Thats pretty funny...the majority of fat people I know are extremely kind and would go to great lengths to help a friend in need. Besides, its not weight that make people selfish...anyone can be selfish, self serving and rude.

As for the thoughts on fat people, everyone will have their own opinion of course. Gods forbid the day someone discriminates against thin people, or against pretty people, smart people the way they do the fat or ugly. I feel for people who lack self control, because for whatever reason...either their own lack of motivation or the constant doomed outlook on life from people who constantly put them down instead of extending a hand and telling them that they can make the changes neccessary to make their life better. Sure, discrimination, hate and stupidity will help change the world...just not for the better.

I completely respect everyone's opinions and thoughts, however forgive me for thinking that some of you are arrogant and self centered.


Here’s something I can relate too. I aint exactly a beautiful dude. So yeah! I hate this crap! People giving somebody less qualified a job just because they look nicer than me! Heck yeah! Its discrimination! In this case I -can’t- change what I look like. Plastic surgery is A. Too expensive for me to afford and B. Against my religious and political beliefs.

I agree with what you posted there. None the less, we have a clash of personal experience. The majority of the fat people (this doesn’t mean 5 or 10 pounds over weight) are rude, overly emotional, self indulge, and flatly people who I don’t enjoy to be around because they pity themselves and try to act superior. But you know what!? I can’t blame them! People treat them like dirt! I’d be a prick too! Here’s a good example:


rickkers wrote:
I hate fat people, .



maevefae wrote:

^ Hey, not all fat people are ugly...just like not all skinny people are pretty. hehehe, my sister may be huge, but she has a gorgeous face. I think that again, varies individually.

However you are right, historically, women with more curves and fleshy parts (meaning larger), were considered to be the most attractive. They were looked to and worshipped as women, who represented, good health, child bearing, as well as wealth. Of course, this does not go as far as to cover the morbidly obese, I am sure there was a limit to the size that was considered favorable.


Not all fat people are ugly. You state that as a fact. Isn’t it an opinion. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, after all. Also what you said is only a partial truth. In -some areas- people have liked bigger women. However, this being said, look at Sparta. Fat people were ostracized. (Not in the voted out of town Athenian way, but in the socially unacceptable way.) Women were taught to be strong and athletic, thin and not flabby so they could “battle” for the demos. (the Spartiates thought of child birth as a woman’s way to battle for the demos.) Men were only allowed to drink diluted wine and were forced to remain fit up to the age of fifty, so they could readily fight for the city. (The drinking thing was to keep them from becoming flabby.)

Or look at Rome. Gladiators and gladiatrices were sex symbols. They were -not- fat. (though some of the men were muscle bound giants. The women weren’t. They had athletic builds, but in truth the point of female gladiator fights [in their brief existence] was sex appeal. (Except when they fought Dwarves, I don’t understand that part but let’s move on.]

None the less in the middle ages heck yes, a lot of people went after over weight women because their wide hips were supposedly good for child bearing. They also liked their breasts and over weight women were considered more… comfortable. However, for men, this was never true. Fat men have never been (except Buda, and this is to my knowledge but I may be wrong) thought of as good sex partners.
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there was a time when being heavy set meant that you were rich..well fed..upper class.

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I think there was a Pharoe who wanted to be sculpted as being fat to show off his wealth. I think obesity is gross and shows a lack of self controll. People who are just a little overweight are just people who don't eat healthy. I still think being anorexic is worse then being a tad fat though.
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I had and have a few slightly overweight friends (partly friends with almost imaginary overweight and partly friends who are what I think is called chubby) and I've watched them try about any diet ever invented and so many sports and excercises. I've seen all the yo-yo-effects or the trying in vain and I listened to frustrated rants many hours of my life.

So my sincere hate goes out to all those who pick on chubby or a little overweight people calling them fatsos etc.

Really fat people however are pitiable for many reasons, either because they can't help it at all, because they are having health problems or they can't help themselves.

I might be a hypocrite though, because admittedly I'm amazed at how some people can let this go on on until they're so huge that you find their pics on horror websites. I have a friend who sometimes eats so much that it makes me a little sick just watching it, because after a certain amount the food just looses it's relatedness to nutrition and it becomes grotesque.

But just because it might look grotesque it doesn't make fat people lesser beings than other humans. There are so many much more grotesque things which just can't be measured as easily as extreme overweight.


Btw: To sue McDonalds for having become fat is just as hilarious as to sue Lucky Strike for having lung cancer because of smoking. If you're not going to take individual responsiblity at least for the things you're choosing to do, you shouldn't be allowed to leave the kindergarten.
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not only is it ones own fault but you also have to factor how unhealthy food is today. you can find just about anything deep fried.
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If you control your diet and eat healthily and have the right amount of exercise, then you wouldn't be "fat" or "overweight." Some of the "fat" people could be fat because of their genes, you know. I'm not exactly fat or skinny, but I'm somewhere in the middle. My parents are the same, and sometimes we eat a lot of "fat" food (some asian food has fatty oils and such). I can't judge the fat people just because they are fat. I mean, some could be geniuses and one could be the next inventor or president.
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SumireHinata wrote:

If you control your diet and eat healthily and have the right amount of exercise, then you wouldn't be "fat" or "overweight." Some of the "fat" people could be fat because of their genes, you know. I'm not exactly fat or skinny, but I'm somewhere in the middle. My parents are the same, and sometimes we eat a lot of "fat" food (some asian food has fatty oils and such). I can't judge the fat people just because they are fat. I mean, some could be geniuses and one could be the next inventor or president.


That's called being healthy.... Not fat, not skinny. Good for you!
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no comment but to say I'm heavy ^^, I don't eat alot but there's a lack of movement in my life * I don't play sports or jog or anything*..my blood pressure's good and the doctor said that I'm healthy in everyway but the fact that I'm overweight. I rarely eat fastfood and I can walk two miles without passing out. I give up seats for old folks or woman with kids, I would open doors for ppl ... but that's just me...just like how you may know a fat guy who bullies kids and curse at everyone on the block

You can have a very gross skinny ppl, and a very mean pretty boy, apperances aren't what you can trust b/c you don't know who that person is despite that maybe she's cute looking or has scars , say you hate fat ppl* directing towards rickkers * is kinda of bias...just like saying I hate the chinese or african americans or I hate smart ppl, etc I could give hundreds of examples. Also you give a very weak agruement about why you hate fat ppl, looks like you are just saying that b/c of just a few fat ppl you know ...

This is pointless ^^, there will always be ppl who treat others with the wrong ideas and the world just isn't fair. Nice ppl get screw and misdeeds go away unpunish. I just don't have hope that the world would change any time soon... My agruement is kinda of weak too but I don't have time to write out a speech ^^
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mushroomjay wrote:


Being fat is ones own fault. (bottom line here.)


No exactly.. I've had trouble managing my weight in the past (basically it goes when I hit a certain weight I start dieting and exercising like mad which = a lot of pain)

The reason I have had trouble is I have a pair of bad legs.I don't like to exercise because it hurts every step when I walk (a little at first, a lot at the end). Because I've been exercising lately my legs have been hurting bad enough that it's difficult to walk around school. I might start looking for a cane again. (kidding. I refuse to look like I'm crippled again)
To those who say "Just exercise, and you'll be fine" Fuck you. that shit hurts

A lot of it is your own fault, your destiny is in your own hands, but sometimes some people do have reasons.
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They should ban beer, then like that... guys wont be huge or stupid...
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