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Summer Simulcasts - Occult Academy & Tono to Issho
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Not bad so far. I wanted to watch Occult Academy. Here's hoping more stuff is on the way.
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pleaaaase simulcast any of the following:
Mitsudomoe
Shukufuku No Campanella
Ookami-san and 7 friends
Asobi Ni Iku Yo
Seitokai Yakuindomo
Sekirei
Strike Witches


I'd be happy if you simulcasted a couple of these. i only liked two from last season.
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nokoka wrote: Sekirei

Funimation already has this.
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oh that's too bad. i could watch it there. but i prefer cr, they always have good quality, the subtitles are nice and clear, and episodes aren't divided into parts, so you aren't like "where's part 2". (like on youtube). i don't mind if funimation has it. all the others are still open to cr.
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looks good ^^ a must check out!
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i hope one of them is a funny comedy anime that can replace gintama until it reair again :O
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Tono to Issho! Huzzah!
I'm really looking forward to this one!
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fghh778 wrote:

Plus stuff like Digimon and Osaka Hamlet and other things I doubt we'd see simulcast.

CR actually has a Digimon series already, so I wouldn't count it out.
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Sweet NEW STUFF!!!! Occult Academy looks interesting... Thanks Michana
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nokoka wrote:

oh that's too bad. i could watch it there. but i prefer cr, they always have good quality, the subtitles are nice and clear, and episodes aren't divided into parts, so you aren't like "where's part 2". (like on youtube). i don't mind if funimation has it. all the others are still open to cr.

Yes, all the others are still up in the air at this time, although out of that remaining 6, five have already aired their first episode. Only Strike Witches 2 remains, which premieres early AM on Thursday in Japan.


Frankly, it was a bit surprising that Funimation did not license it, since they stream the first Strike Witches and publish it on DVD, as well. Was the reason because the DVDs did not sell as well as expected, and Funimation passed, or because the price asked for it was too high? If the former, that gives CR a good chance of getting it.

Apparently it is the most anticipated Summer 2010 anime in Japan ( http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-644615/japans-satisfaction-and-expectation-rankings-for-spring-and-summer-anime-2010/ ), so it could very well be that the price was simply too high. The good news is that if it turns out not to be as hot a property as expected, either CR or Funimation could pick it up later in the season.

That said, looking at the expectation vs. satisfaction ratings for the 2010 Spring anime, the only difference in the top three was that the first and second switched positions. To put it another way, SW2 is likely to be a hot property in Japan.

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MrHatandClogs wrote: It's is good to see other companies getting interested in simulcasts, but CR was the original, so they should have some form of "dibs" for that.

As much as I'd like CR to get everything, business decidedly does not work that way. The Japanese publishers will give the show to whoever offers the best deal.


I hope CR gets Ookami-san and Amagami, but I haven't seen the licensed list, so I'm not sure what has and hasn't been licensed by others yet.


Crunchyroll:
Tono to Issho
Seikimatsu Occult Gakuin

Viz:
Nurarihyon no Mago

ADV:
Highschool of the Dead

Funimation:
Shiki
Kuroshitsuji 2
Densetsu no Yuusha no Densetsu
Sekirei 2
Sengoku Basara 2

That leaves:
Ookami-san to Shichinin no Nakamatachi
Amagami SS
Shukufuku no Campanella
Mitsudomoe
Seitokai Yakuindomo
Strike Witches 2
Asobi ni Iku yo!

Plus stuff like Digimon and Osaka Hamlet and other things I doubt we'd see simulcast.


Thanks, yea I looked at the fansub wiki right after I posted this. The 2 shows I wanted are still open so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. But, I'll be happy even if CR doesn't get anymore, b/c I liked the first episode of Occult and I was already planning on watching Tono to Issho. Plus, I'm watchng Giant Killing (Awesome Show!!) and I'm almost caught up with CR's episodes of Fairy Tail so I feel 4 shows for my Anime Membership is worth it, plus all the catalog shows. But, new shows are welcome as well :P

I understand what you're saying about the bigger companies, I jut don't think it's right that all of a sudden everybody else jumps on the simulcast band wagon and the originator gets pooped on. But business is business. I hate to say it, but I'm already contemplating an Anime Network membership, only because their majority is dubs and they have a lot of shows I've wanted to watch for a little while. But, they'll have to do better than one simulcast to hook me in, though HOTD ep 1 was awesome, and I'd really like to watch it. >.<

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Way Funimation was licencing stuff (AX reports) didn't think there'd be much left of new summer shows for CR. Great to see these 2 added!
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TheAncientOne wrote:

Frankly, it was a bit surprising that Funimation did not license it, since they stream the first Strike Witches and publish it on DVD, as well. Was the reason because the DVDs did not sell as well as expected, and Funimation passed, or because the price asked for it was too high? If the former, that gives CR a good chance of getting it.


Just because FUNi received the first Strike Witches, it doesn't necessarily mean season two is in the bag. To me, it seemed as if FUNi originally obtained the Gonzo titles as a package deal(s). Despite Strike Witches 2 having since changed anime studios, the chances of FUNi still getting it are more then likely, but that's not to say that it is set in stone.

It is a possibility that some sort of obligation or contract to the series may have survived the transition. Regardless, I do think it would be in FUNi's best interest to strive to add it to complete their collection despite my personal ill feelings towards them. *That is to say, I would prefer to see more stuff on CR instead.*

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In other news.....

Thank you CR for getting Occult Academy. I've seen some good reviews of this show so I look forward to watching it.

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agila61 wrote: Don't discount those - looking at Alexa, Crunchy's traffic rank is higher over 7days than one month, and higher over one month than three months, so the traffic trend is heading up again, since Bleach came to the site.

I don't discount those. I said they're what's keeping Crunchyroll alive. But they only cater to a certain audience (one less likely to pay for premium accounts on average), and don't grow CR as a platform for a variety of anime. I don't have any interest in a CR = Shounen Jump equation and hope it never comes anywhere near that.


The problem with describing them as "what's keeping Crunchyroll alive" is that its sounds as if CR is on life support. However, the early results of the inclusion of Bleach last month looks like Crunchyroll's audience is growing at a faster rate than the internet as a whole, since starting three weeks ago Crunchyroll's ranking, reach, and hit rates have all been climbing. And since Crunchyroll announced that they had hit break-even in May, before getting Bleach, the clear growth in audience since getting Bleach will improve on that.

As far as likelihood of paying for premium accounts, (smaller rate)*(bigger total) can as easily be more total subscriptions. Since the ad-streams are self-funding, its not the average likelihood that matters, its the total number of subscriptions that it yields.

And as far as "they don't grow CR as a platform for a variety of anime" ... no, of course they do. The actual audience for the big platform titles is by no means restricted to the stereotype, and bringing that audience to the site increase the viewership of titles across the board. Increased viewership across the board improves the royalty streams for all shows, improving the case for uploading material to Crunchyroll.



Also don't discount the impact of broader international reach than Funimation or VizMedia can get from their streams which are heavily biased to US-only Hulu streams. A lot is riding on the trials of user-translated subtitles in international regions ... if the Japanese rights owners see those as successful, Crunchy will be able to leverage that into a position in the European market that Funimation and VizMedia can't match.


However, we've seen little to no evidence that Japanese publishers are willing to give the same show to multiple platforms for multiple global audiences.


They evidently are not unwilling to see the same show on multiple platforms for multiple global audiences. That is how we see Funi with an R1 license for an English-localization of a title that has an R4 licensed by Madman in Australia, an R2-ex-Japan license by Manga in the UK, and an R3 license by Odex in Singapore, on a variety of cable and satellite channels as well as various non-English localizations.


If Funimation locks up the lion's share of desirable series for North American distro,...


Making up an extreme starting point makes it easy to reach extreme conclusions, but there is no reason to believe either that Funi will lock up a large majority of desirable series for North American distribution.

Nor is there any reason to believe that Funi would be unwilling to work with Crunchyroll as a streaming platform for its titles similar to the way that it works with Hulu and YouTube.


Crunchyroll's performance in 2010 has left a lot of people feeling CR is on the way out.


Yeah, lots of people on the internet have absurdly unrealistic expectations and hyperventilate when reality proceeds at a more realistic pace. The simple facts are that Crunchyroll hit break-even in May, before the Bleach simulcast started, and since the Bleach simulcast started, Crunchyroll's internet ranking and reach has been climbing, according to the best available public information.

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agila61 wrote:


fghh778 wrote:

If Funimation locks up the lion's share of desirable series for North American distro,...


Making up an extreme starting point makes it easy to reach extreme conclusions, but there is no reason to believe either that Funi will lock up a large majority of desirable series for North American distribution.

Nor is there any reason to believe that Funi would be unwilling to work with Crunchyroll as a streaming platform for its titles similar to the way that it works with Hulu and YouTube.


No reason huh? I'm pretty sure FUNi has reasons... The Shodojo project was/is a middle finger towards CR imo.

-moose
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