Lawsuit against the Air Force!
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Posted 7/15/10 , edited 7/15/10
This is a new topic, that is I admit a little personal to me.

My cozen was going to re-enlist in the Navy but found out he was unable to. Do to his DD forms.

Wen my cozen was younger 18 or so years old, he join the air force. And did not make it through the Basic do to his lack of skill folding cloths. So after 2 attempts he gave up and was released from Air Force basic. (yes for not being able to fold his clothing or making a bed to their basic training standards. I have the paperwork from the reports from the Drill-instructor. So I know that is the case.)

DD forms are the forms that give the codes for your termination, and your availability to reenlist.

On his codes.. Yes my cozen is a male.. (mind you this is 10 years later..) the code he got points out he was dismissed from the military do to being pregnant. (yeah that captain was funny huh.)

The other code is the for the availability to reenlist with the military. That code stated that He is not acceptable for reenlistment by any military branches. (Army offer to have it wavered so he could get in, because it seem like bullshit for why he was truly dismissed for. )

How I see it for the last 10 years any jobs that anything to do the government/military related, he might of not have gotten do to this DD Form, that some captain sick joke had a role in.

I for one do not think he should just have the army go through the hassle of going to the grand cives and wavering this.
I think My younger cozen should sue the hell out of the Air force. For the Falsified DD form that may have costed him jobs in the last 10 years. Also for making it so he can not reenlist into the Navy or any other branch, because at 18 he was unable to fold a shirt fast or cleanly enough for his basic.

The debate is on, what do you think about this, and if this happen to you what actions would you have taken.

I am a former military person my self, and to think that there might be others out there that has been Fucked over like this because of some officer idea of a joke. Sickens me.

So I my self Am trying to push my cozen who by the way is just about a year younger than me, into setting up a lawsuit against the air force, for allowing such sick things to take place.

I really am going to have to run for office just so I can work on weeding out corrupt or just sick people from are government. This kinda shit gets my blood a steaming.

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On another note... if your former military you might wanna look up your DD forms as well.. Just to be on the safe side. I know I checked mine over.
Posted 7/15/10
Pregnant and can't fold a shirt. What has happened to our armed forces?
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Aztecnology wrote:

Pregnant and can't fold a shirt. What has happened to our armed forces?


Never herd of a male being pregnant.. and a 18 year old who not good at folding banned from the military for life.
I really think the air force needs to keep an Eye on there officers.


What actions would you take?
Posted 7/15/10 , edited 7/15/10

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


Aztecnology wrote:

Pregnant and can't fold a shirt. What has happened to our armed forces?


Never herd of a male being pregnant.. and a 18 year old who not good at folding banned from the military for life.
I really think the air force needs to keep an Eye on there officers.


What actions would you take?


Fight them over such retarded bullshit. Get a really 'good' lawyer and take it to the supreme court. Conduct like that in our military isn't acceptable in the least. I'd likely never serve again since that kind of crap is so prone to happen anymore.
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Does the Air force has some sort of system for filing complaints against officers? If so then I would consider that route, if not then sue them and attempt to implement a formal complaint system.
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Posted 7/15/10 , edited 7/15/10

Cuddlebuns wrote:

Does the Air force has some sort of system for filing complaints against officers? If so then I would consider that route, if not then sue them and attempt to implement a formal complaint system.


I have been looking it up my self.. I can not find anything yet.

He is trying to find someone to talk two, someone more knowledgeable in the system to go any further. It is a pain in the ass.

But it really need to be done.
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Posted 7/15/10
Choose your battles.

In your shoes I'd be incensed on your cousin's behalf. However Lawsuits cost money and sometimes garner unwanted attention. Regardless of the justice of your cause, suing the military MAY unfairly prejudice certain pro military persons (some of the who may end up serving alongside or be superior in the chain of command to) your cousin. This was a wrong, your cousin was WRONGED, don't misunderstand me.

But he should decide for himself with as much information as he can gather. What he really wants right now and what the costs and benefits of his future actions will be.

I'm not saying don't do it. I'm saying it MIGHT be prejudicial to his career in the Navy or Army. Also I wouldn't just pursue the officer who claimed a man was pregnant. I'd go after everyone who read that form afterwards and didn't bother to question it.

If the doctor messes up an order he's liable for his mistake, If I as the nurse do not question the order and ensure that I have the doctor's wishes clearly set in writing. I am the one liable. I don't know if that standard applies here but it should.

anyhow my two cents for what they are worth.
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More power to you, I'm all for you suing the fuck out of the Airforce. In my short time in the USMC, before I got discharged for an injury, I met a lot of scumbags both recruits and officers. Unsurprisingly the service tends to attract primarily these types of people and because of this the military tends to fuck over a lot of servicemen including a couple of my family members. One of my friends, his dad actually went to boot camp for the Marines around the 70's and he injures his right knee during a march, they dropped him from training and gave him a dishonorable discharge. His wife is the bread winner and all he can do to support his family is a measly $100 dollars a week from odd jobs here and there. You have to fight this, don't let them fuck your cousin over.
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The air force and not folding clothes right there the sorriest bunch at marinating the uniform they look like slobs from the start. Basic training Hell I do not trust them with a sling shot. They may be good techs the navy has marine the air force depend on other branches to cover their bases. The DD 214 should have statement on the second page what kind off discharge he received and why the company clerk probably thought it was funny to put that code down. The captain just signed off on it. But yes he should sue, but I tell you one thing if somebody makes mistake regular the guy in his platoon may have sabotaged him. Back in my time we had people with hygiene problem so put a bag over there head and using scrolling pad and detergent generally they cut on. If somebody kept messing up a blanket party was at hand. I loved to short sheet people bunks just for fun. -----------------------------------------The company clerk was an ass hole the captain incompetent, the discharge was a general discharge correct. If it was anything else I would sue but a lawyer maybe hard to find. Then again you may get one free from the military court.
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