Extreme Low Calorie Diet plus Inactivity, and their combined Side Effects
Posted 7/19/10 , edited 7/20/10
The short message; extreme low-calorie diet is bad, so don't do it. However since this is ED, I'll bite the bullet and give an extensive talk about just how and why it's bad for all people, period. Like I've got nothing else better to do but to think.

I'll cite two sources as proofs of my claim, first on extreme low-calorie diet:

Many people who have been on low-calorie diets experience side effects like fatigue, depression, hair loss, dry skin, poor memory, difficulty concentrating, mood swings, irregular menstrual cycles and a lack of interest in sex. Over time symptoms worsen and the body weakens until illnesses and allergies become frequent, and eventually degenerative diseases are more likely to occur. This deterioration may be fast or slow, depending on how extreme your diet is.

Another side effect of low-calorie dieting: when people focus on slashing calories, usually fat is the first to go - because fat has nine calories per gram, compared to four calories per gram in protein and carbohydrates. It may seem like a logical choice, but it's a poor one. The body treasures its dietary fat, which is used to coat every cell and is required for countless functions in the body. Getting plenty of healthy fats also satiates the appetite and prevents food cravings, so cutting them out does nothing but hinder weight loss efforts. Eliminating healthy, natural fats seems to exacerbate and accelerate all of the above-mentioned side effects of low-calorie dieting.(citation)
As if that wasn't enough, the overall inactivity as a result of such extreme diet(fatigue, depression, difficulty concentrating, a lack of interest in sex) can further trigger muscle loss:

According to Michael O’Leary, a doctoral student in York’s School of Kinesiology and Health Science, a week of total muscular inactivity can cause 24 percent muscle loss.

“It really is a case of ‘use it or lose it’,” he said in a university statement here.

“We are seeing more and more evidence of how easy it is to lose muscle, compared to how difficult it is to regain it,” said O’Leary.

During chronic muscle inactivity, he said, a process called autophagy - or type 2 cell death - joins with apoptosis - or type 1 cell death - in attacking cells and causing muscles to shrink. Muscle inactivity leads to big increases in the proteins LC3 and Beclin 1 in the body, O’Leary said.

He said these proteins are activated by a decrease in oxygen consumption (by the mitochondria, which supply power to our cells) during muscle inactivity.

This leads to an increase in tiny molecules called reactive muscle oxygen species which are blamed for causing conditions ranging from cancer to wrinkles.

In high doses, these molecules wreak havoc on body cells by activating the production of these proteins, O’Leary said.

In his research, he said, he also observed heightened levels of LC3 in mitochondrial membranes, degrading the mitochondria (which supply power to human cells)(citation).
BTW, while it should be obvious that sexual activity is still an activity(those who think otherwise, good luck), the human brain OTOH can take up quite a lot of energy just by thinking(amount 20% of the total human calorie burn).

Therefore I think when someone who's on an extreme low-calorie diet, thus making them inactive both physically and mentally, will begin to loose their muscles before they even loose their body fat.

What's worst, since muscle is denser than fat, they would think(?) that their weight-loss is a sign that they're loosing fat. And I've been going through with many different individuals on how that's not the case to be, but they won't take my words for it because I weight more than they do. Yet I'm mostly just bones and muscles. Seriously, there are times that I just wanna shake them down for their stupid misconception.
Posted 7/19/10

DomFortress wrote:

The short message; extreme low-calorie diet is bad, so don't do it. However since this is ED, I'll bite the bullet and give an extensive talk about just how and why it's bad for all people, period. Like I've got nothing else better to do but to think.

I'll cite two sources as proofs of my claim, first on extreme low-calorie diet:

Many people who have been on low-calorie diets experience side effects like fatigue, depression, hair loss, dry skin, poor memory, difficulty concentrating, mood swings, irregular menstrual cycles and a lack of interest in sex. Over time symptoms worsen and the body weakens until illnesses and allergies become frequent, and eventually degenerative diseases are more likely to occur. This deterioration may be fast or slow, depending on how extreme your diet is.

Another side effect of low-calorie dieting: when people focus on slashing calories, usually fat is the first to go - because fat has nine calories per gram, compared to four calories per gram in protein and carbohydrates. It may seem like a logical choice, but it's a poor one. The body treasures its dietary fat, which is used to coat every cell and is required for countless functions in the body. Getting plenty of healthy fats also satiates the appetite and prevents
food cravings, so cutting them out does nothing but hinder weight loss efforts. Eliminating healthy, natural fats seems to exacerbate and accelerate all of the above-mentioned side effects of low-calorie dieting.(citation)
As if that wasn't enough, the overall inactivity as a result of such extreme diet(fatigue, depression, difficulty concentrating, a lack of interest in sex) can further trigger muscle loss:

According to Michael O’Leary, a doctoral student in York’s School of Kinesiology and Health Science, a week of total muscular inactivity can cause 24 percent muscle loss.

“It really is a case of ‘use it or lose it’,” he said in a university statement here.

“We are seeing more and more evidence of how easy it is to lose muscle, compared to how difficult it is to regain it,” said O’Leary.

During chronic muscle inactivity, he said, a process called autophagy - or type 2 cell death - joins with apoptosis - or type 1 cell death - in attacking cells and causing muscles to shrink. Muscle inactivity leads to big increases in the proteins LC3 and Beclin 1 in the body, O’Leary said.

He said these proteins are activated by a decrease in oxygen consumption (by the mitochondria, which supply power to our cells) during muscle inactivity.

This leads to an increase in tiny molecules called reactive muscle oxygen species which are blamed for causing conditions ranging from cancer to wrinkles.

In high doses, these molecules wreak havoc on body cells by activating the production of these proteins, O’Leary said.

In his research, he said, he also observed heightened levels of LC3 in mitochondrial membranes, degrading the mitochondria (which supply power to human cells)(citation).
BTW, while it should be obvious that sexual activity is still an activity(those who think otherwise, good luck), the human brain OTOH can take up quite a lot of energy just by thinking(amount 20% of the total human calorie burn).

Therefore I think when someone who's on an extreme low-calorie diet, thus making them inactive both physically and mentally, will begin to loose their muscles before they even loose their body fat.

What's worst, since muscle is denser than fat, they would think(?) that their weight-loss is a sign that they're loosing fat. And I've been going through with many different individuals on how that's not the case to be, but they won't take my words for it because I weight more than they do. Yet I'm mostly just bones and muscles. Seriously, there are times that I just wanna shake them down for their stupid misconception.


I will keep all this in mind while undertaking my new workout regiments on a weight machine and treadmill. Take in those calories, then burn the crap out of them!
Posted 7/20/10

Aztecnology wrote:



I will keep all this in mind while undertaking my new workout regiments on a weight machine and treadmill. Take in those calories, then burn the crap out of them!
And "Cole Train" that regime like you own it!
Posted 7/20/10
I currently have this female colleague I know from the local university who's on a low-calorie diet and she's so physically weak and whiny all the time.
Posted 7/20/10

jandarujora wrote:

I currently have this female colleague I know from the local university who's on a low-calorie diet and she's so physically weak and whiny all the time.


Then increase her calorie intake with some hot, unprotected sex. No, just kidding.
Posted 7/20/10

DomFortress wrote:


Aztecnology wrote:



I will keep all this in mind while undertaking my new workout regiments on a weight machine and treadmill. Take in those calories, then burn the crap out of them!
And "Cole Train" that regime like you own it!


If I got as big as The Train, my mind would become that much more proficient. To train the mind we must train the body. I'll need ot get some good supplements, too.
Posted 7/20/10

jandarujora wrote:

I currently have this female colleague I know from the local university who's on a low-calorie diet and she's so physically weak and whiny all the time.

Aztecnology wrote:



Then increase her calorie intake with some hot, unprotected sex. No, just kidding.
Now before making poor judgment on the reality, It's good practice to keep in mind that correlation isn't necessary causation. Thereby one must constantly be in a truth-seeking disposition, so that valid judgment can be made based on factual claims.

In this case, you'll need to know the exact nature of just what constitutes as "extreme low-calorie diet". According to W.H.O. the minimum daily calorie requirement of an adult human is around 2100cal, assuming that the individual isn't gonna do much of anything other than basal metabolic functions. Therefore anything lower than that amount of energy intake is automatically too low for one's own good.

Furthermore:

Aztecnology wrote:


DomFortress wrote:


Aztecnology wrote:



I will keep all this in mind while undertaking my new workout regiments on a weight machine and treadmill. Take in those calories, then burn the crap out of them!
And "Cole Train" that regime like you own it!


If I got as big as The Train, my mind would become that much more proficient. To train the mind we must train the body. I'll need to get some good supplements, too.
Supplements aren't necessary, when you can get enough nutrients just from your natural dietary habit alone. That's why they're called "supplement" for being "supplementary".

Remember, overflow is still a sign for a lack of control due to imbalance. That's why maintaining and sustaining always trump managing in the long run, whereas any management is a sign for a lack of direction in the first place.
Posted 7/20/10

DomFortress wrote:


jandarujora wrote:

I currently have this female colleague I know from the local university who's on a low-calorie diet and she's so physically weak and whiny all the time.

Aztecnology wrote:



Then increase her calorie intake with some hot, unprotected sex. No, just kidding.
Now before making poor judgment on the reality, It's good practice to keep in mind that correlation isn't necessary causation. Thereby one must constantly be in a truth-seeking disposition, so that valid judgment can be made based on factual claims.

In this case, you'll need to know the exact nature of just what constitutes as "extreme low-calorie diet". According to W.H.O. the minimum daily calorie requirement of an adult human is around 2100cal, assuming that the individual isn't gonna do much of anything other than basal metabolic functions. Therefore anything lower than that amount of energy intake is automatically too low for one's own good.

Furthermore:

Aztecnology wrote:


DomFortress wrote:


Aztecnology wrote:



I will keep all this in mind while undertaking my new workout regiments on a weight machine and treadmill. Take in those calories, then burn the crap out of them!
And "Cole Train" that regime like you own it!


If I got as big as The Train, my mind would become that much more proficient. To train the mind we must train the body. I'll need to get some good supplements, too.
Supplements aren't necessary, when you can get enough nutrients just from your natural dietary habit alone. That's why they're called "supplement" for being "supplementary".

Remember, overflow is still a sign for a lack of control due to imbalance. That's why maintaining and sustaining always trump managing in the long run, whereas any management is a sign for a lack of direction in the first place.


I will take your word for it. I don't want to spend any more money than I have to, since many things on the market are a gimmick.
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