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Funimation, Fansubs, and Buying Anime
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To many people around me, Funimation is devil and is a greedy anti-eastern company.

I've done some looking around from different anime to anime and comparing the english sub and what was edited from dub (from the japanese version to funimation) and I see no real difference. But people bring up one example every time I ask them, or they say they are evil because Funimation gives C&D's to fansubs sites. Though, for the rest of the time I see no evil.

So my point is I hate pirating anime (before I did), and I only watch fansubs for anime that wasn't in the US, or I know is going to be soso (or to preview). But now, I'm deciding to nut up or shut up and I'm going to funding Funimation and the anime industry by buying some highly well review anime blind and some anime that I've already watched and I love to watch again. And also go to places like HULU and here at home at Crunchyroll.

Anyways, I'm done dragging on here about my history and opinions. The reason for this post is are they people out there who can give me a real, and MULTIPLE, examples of why funimation is evil, because to the evindence in front of me says their not. Plus, how to people feel about fansubbing and buying anime. On the real, how many people support the industry and buy anime?

If I made error writing this, please d on't hate me for it.
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25 / M / Arnold Maryland
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Posted 7/22/10
<- doesnt buy anime
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Posted 7/22/10
Why?
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I buy anime. If Funimation has licensed the anime for distribution in the US, then only a licensor should be allowed to distribute it, and fansubs themselves are in a legal grey area when it comes to work that has not been licensed. And nowadays, when Funimation decides to C&D a series, you can pretty much take that as a press release announcing one of their newly acquired licenses.

The good thing about Funimation, is that they are genuinely trying to compete with fansubbers by making their anime available for online (on Youtube and Hulu) or for OnDemand watching. At least FUNimation is trying, which is more than you could have said about ADV or Geneon.

Unfortunately for Funimation, and companies like it, they're still using very outdated business models when it comes to selling anime. With new releases, many of them treat still treat DVDs like VHS tapes; only including 3-4 episodes (why, that's just enough to fit on a VHS tape!) at around $30 or more. This worked fine in the 1990s, when it was nearly impossible to get anime from anywhere else. However, as the internet has flourished, this business model began to falter. Many of the companies that have gone under recently have done so from their stubbornness to change, but part of it is also fault of Japanese distributors. Japanese distributors often use similar models, and do not want American companies to make cheap box sets available. This is because they're afraid of reverse importing, a process where Japanese consumers would buy the cheaper anime box sets, and import an watch them instead.

Fansubs do a lot of good for the industry, though. They get people excited about new anime. They need to work to create a product that you can't get from a fansub and they need to price it reasonably enough that piracy doesn't seem so seductive. Fansubs are here to stay, and no amount of C&D's are going to stop their proliferation. However, they do have to do something to protect their license; they did pay for it after all, and that's why they send the C&Ds. However, it'd be a waste of time to try and police the entire fansub community. They should really be spending their time perfecting their products.
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Posted 7/22/10
Damn I love reading informative posts.
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26 / M / Brooklyn new york
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Posted 7/22/10
me too!
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Posted 7/22/10
I think Funimation people are pretty cool.
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To FNFY, thank you for the response.

I agree fansubs are here to stay, I NEVER WANT TO BUY SOMETHING BLIND. Fansubs are very good and help you decide to buy anime or just say that was a good series I just watched, but not buying worthy.

And thanks for explaining why the F-ing anime is so expense. I'm still going to purchase from Funimation, but now I know why and what the money is doing. Just, there some series I watch to watch and have on disc, I think people will understand!
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no, I NEED SUBS. it doesn't matter what the language is...since i'm really deaf in the ears.
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Posted 7/22/10
sweetness, Funi has dual audio for nearly all their shows. They now frequently put 12-13 episodes in a boxset for the $40-$60. The single volumes you can buy cheaper at various retailers. RightStuf and AnimeNation have good deals.
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Now that I think about it.....I think one of the reasons I dont buy anime is......well.....the only place I have ever seen anything related to anime was at a Best Buy. I mean they have some anime....like the old popular ones like Outlaw Star....FullMetal Alchemist.......but I mean anything else is like....non existent there so.......I guess I dont know of a place that actually has a true anime selection. Would be nice if there was a store I knew that was dedicated to anime stuff.
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Go to rightstuf.com. They have tons of anime including mainstream and heavily non-mainstream stuff at amazing prices, and their also pretty good with shipping too!
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I buy anime, but mostly from Japanese distributors, I don't like the anime to be modified, Crunchy Roll is great anime directly from japan :)
I still use fan subs too for anime that has not been realeesed in DVD or in here :)

Also I tend to like more the vocabulary they use in FanSubs. I don't buy much from USA Distributors not because I hate them, but because I don't really need a English voices, I don't like my anime, movies, drama or any Show "DUbed" I prefer subs.

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Posted 7/22/10
To marrerotkd, where do you go for those.

To superluccix, amazon, rightstuf and it's bargain bin are great places!!!
Posted 7/22/10 , edited 7/22/10


adv will be missed though in my heart, I loved them because of new-type usa and the music sound tracks they picked up you want to know something funny they started out as a fansub group back in the early 90's lol for genon usa, well it does suck for them but japan had the let American branch go in order to restructure . Funimantion has yet to pick up any anime sound tracks what soever. Changing the subject I love right stuf.com because of their huge bargin bin and the discounts they give when I do buy anime/manga
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