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papagolfwhiskey >> yes your right but friend told me about this topic ! And because I'm Muslem Arabic girl & I respect all ReligionS .. So I'm here to see how people thinking LOL I just have fun ..


I was curious. Anyhow. A few posts up is my response to another Muslim's query as to all the hate expressed on this thread towards Islam.
For myself, I don't think I'm particularly hateful. Distrustful perhaps but I don't trust any organised religion. One cannot study history without questioning the contortions humans put into God's word that permit the things done in the name of God. Things that I honestly doubt God approves of. And if one is unsure that one human has failed to properly grasp god's word it's easy to assume that no humans have.



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nope it wasnt that hard at all man bcuz its where u can win but about islam thingy nope u can't :3

so u believe that ur grand, grand, grand, grand, grand, grand, grand, ..... grand, grandfather was some sort of monkey ?


I was asking if it was all that hard to actually properly spell. I didn't win because I see you're still massacring the Queen's English.

As for the evolution question...

Relevance?


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nope it wasnt that hard at all man bcuz its where u can win but about islam thingy nope u can't :3

so u believe that ur grand, grand, grand, grand, grand, grand, grand, ..... grand, grandfather was some sort of monkey ?


I was asking if it was all that hard to actually properly spell. I didn't win because I see you're still massacring the Queen's English.

As for the evolution question...

Relevance?




ah so that was ur point from the you thingy .... sorry i thought u meant something else ^^

hmmm well yea kind of Relevance i mean i never asked any Atheists about that thing

so the first question are u one of them ? and the second do u really believe that or not ?
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UAE89 Noooooo hahahhhhhh it's the other guy who believe that his grandfather Some sort of monkey ! check his profile I like the photo hihihihihihi ..
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ah so that was ur point from the you thingy .... sorry i thought u meant something else ^^

hmmm well yea kind of Relevance i mean i never asked any Atheists about that thing

so the first question are u one of them ? and the second do u really believe that or not ?


Depends on what you mean by Atheist. My personal beliefs are complex. sometimes even self contradictory. There are believers in this world who would call me Atheist or even Apostate (I used to belong to a christian church). Dark Phoenix wouldn't consider me a real atheist. I'm too wishy washy for him.

So first, I don't believe that belief in god, and accepting the theory of Evolution are mutually exclusive. You can find extensive arguments on the subject here on ED if you dig down into some of the older posts. On the subject of evolution. Basically... yeah. I believe and will continue to believe until a better scientific theory comes along that human life is part of this planet's life. I'll do you one better. I don't just think my grandfather to the 1000th power was the grandfather of all humans, apes, and other currently evolved primates. but that HIS grandfather to the 10 0000th power was the single celled animal that was the mother of all living beings on this planet.

Second, It's NOT god I have a problem with, it's most churches. I'm a student of history. More evil has been done under the battle cry of 'God wills it' (never mind the god) than under any other banner. I don't trust anyone who stands between me and god and claims that disobeying a human equates with disobeying god. I don't care if it's an American Baptist Preacher thundering fire and brimstone from his pulpit, The Pope, The ArchBishop of Cantebury, The Metropol of Orthodoxy, or name your Imam or Ayatollah or Caliph... They're just men. If I don't agree with them it shouldn't be blasphemy or heresy. I live in a country where I don't have to prostrate myself to ANY belief to hold a job. join an organisation or vote in an election. I like that. To any employer, politician, would be leader, I can answer 'none of your business' on religious questions and carry on with my life.

I hope this was helpful.


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ah so that was ur point from the you thingy .... sorry i thought u meant something else ^^

hmmm well yea kind of Relevance i mean i never asked any Atheists about that thing

so the first question are u one of them ? and the second do u really believe that or not ?


Depends on what you mean by Atheist. My personal beliefs are complex. sometimes even self contradictory. There are believers in this world who would call me Atheist or even Apostate (I used to belong to a christian church). Dark Phoenix wouldn't consider me a real atheist. I'm too wishy washy for him.

So first, I don't believe that belief in god, and accepting the theory of Evolution are mutually exclusive. You can find extensive arguments on the subject here on ED if you dig down into some of the older posts. On the subject of evolution. Basically... yeah. I believe and will continue to believe until a better scientific theory comes along that human life is part of this planet's life. I'll do you one better. I don't just think my grandfather to the 1000th power was the grandfather of all humans, apes, and other currently evolved primates. but that HIS grandfather to the 10 0000th power was the single celled animal that was the mother of all living beings on this planet.

Second, It's NOT god I have a problem with, it's most churches. I'm a student of history. More evil has been done under the battle cry of 'God wills it' (never mind the god) than under any other banner. I don't trust anyone who stands between me and god and claims that disobeying a human equates with disobeying god. I don't care if it's an American Baptist Preacher thundering fire and brimstone from his pulpit, The Pope, The ArchBishop of Cantebury, The Metropol of Orthodoxy, or name your Imam or Ayatollah or Caliph... They're just men. If I don't agree with them it shouldn't be blasphemy or heresy. I live in a country where I don't have to prostrate myself to ANY belief to hold a job. join an organisation or vote in an election. I like that. To any employer, politician, would be leader, I can answer 'none of your business' on religious questions and carry on with my life.

I hope this was helpful.





hmmm yea that was kinda helpful but let me tell u something ignore whatever that Imam or Ayatollah or Caliph said what i want u to do is read directly the Quran and the Sunah *things prophet Mohammed used to do them* if u want bcuz many Imam or Ayatollah or Caliph now make the islam harder or give wrong idea about islam

note: islam religon is not only the Quran .... the Quran is the half the other half is the Sunah its what the prophet used to do ^.^

well i really dont mind of those ppl who said they want to burn the quran or they want to recycle it and make it toilet paper bcuz it will be their sin not mind but i remind them by to re-think of it and think of what they will say to the god in judgment day if that day was real i mean some of u dont believe on judgment day okay i respect that but think of what if it was real ^^

and thanx papagolfwhiskey u make this discussion kinda fun =D
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UAE89 Noooooo hahahhhhhh it's the other guy who believe that his grandfather Some sort of monkey ! check his profile I like the photo hihihihihihi ..


yea i noticed that but late lol xD
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islam is the best
i want everyone to ask themselves : why muslims are increasing ???
you have to wake up
islam is ruling the world
and if you just think about that and ask : why????
you will find the answer in converting to islam
we dont worship the creatures
only god should be worshipped because he is the creator and sustainer of all that exists
we love all prophets and we respect them
we believe in all prophets including moses and jesus , ending with muhammad (blessing and peace be upon them all)
we believe in all scriptures revealed to them ( in their original form )
i invite everyone to convert to islam , and if you dont want , it is ok
we give all people freedom to join any religion
we dont force anyone to join islam
all we want is to leave us and give us freedom to worship anything we want to worship
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hmmm yea that was kinda helpful but let me tell u something ignore whatever that Imam or Ayatollah or Caliph said what i want u to do is read directly the Quran and the Sunah *things prophet Mohammed used to do them* if u want bcuz many Imam or Ayatollah or Caliph now make the islam harder or give wrong idea about islam

note: islam religon is not only the Quran .... the Quran is the half the other half is the Sunah its what the prophet used to do ^.^

well i really dont mind of those ppl who said they want to burn the quran or they want to recycle it and make it toilet paper bcuz it will be their sin not mind but i remind them by to re-think of it and think of what they will say to the god in judgment day if that day was real i mean some of u dont believe on judgment day okay i respect that but think of what if it was real ^^

and thanx papagolfwhiskey u make this discussion kinda fun =D


That emboldened part is exactly the problem. Unfortunately enough people do listen to those authorities and they say enough... hateful things as to make Islam seem to be all the things the negative people here say. One way to convince non-Muslims that Islam is truly of peace is to speak as loudly in contradiction to those violent and harsh voices, to condemn them for how they distort the meaning of peace. Once that starts happening I think you will find more people will look upon Islam with favour.

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That emboldened part is exactly the problem. Unfortunately enough people do listen to those authorities and they say enough... hateful things as to make Islam seem to be all the things the negative people here say. One way to convince non-Muslims that Islam is truly of peace is to speak as loudly in contradiction to those violent and harsh voices, to condemn them for how they distort the meaning of peace. Once that starts happening I think you will find more people will look upon Islam with favour.



how do u know that ?

yea alot of fake Imam's now trying to distort the islam but i dont fall for them bcuz im Arabian guy i can easily find out the truth bcuz i can go directly to the Quran or the Sunah

what i dont understand is why they do that ?!

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papagolfwhiskey wrote:


That emboldened part is exactly the problem. Unfortunately enough people do listen to those authorities and they say enough... hateful things as to make Islam seem to be all the things the negative people here say. One way to convince non-Muslims that Islam is truly of peace is to speak as loudly in contradiction to those violent and harsh voices, to condemn them for how they distort the meaning of peace. Once that starts happening I think you will find more people will look upon Islam with favour.



how do u know that ?

yea alot of fake Imam's now trying to distort the islam but i dont fall for them bcuz im Arabian guy i can easily find out the truth bcuz i can go directly to the Quran or the Sunah

what i dont understand is why they do that ?!



you can find truth from the Quran but cultures make the words of the Quaran different like Mohammed said forgive those who suerrender to you give them another chance but some Islamic cultures ignore that. Also Mohammed did not say that women should be restricted in work but cultures make them restricted. The words of the holy man is changed by cultures.
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Wahabism and the Muslim brotherhood messed up the peace of Islam.
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thanx to show this video but it's a shame to burne any holy book ..this is the violence it self
they claim that Qu'ran is a Violent book if it's ture so why Islam is increasing nowaday's all over the world
I will give them the answer which is that new muslim's found them selves in Qu'ran...
Europe about to be muslim whithout any war , weapons or any violence...
they should ask them selves Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ?

IN each Religion there r violent gangs that doesn't mean these religions r violent..Qu'ran orders always to share others in life & treats them safely and gently . in other side Qu'ran orders muslims to defend and protects all human , if any Dictator fight them or limits there freedom to choose any faith he wants.


Nice try.. But The Qur'an tells you to lie to trick the non-believes into joining. If they do not join kill them.
The Qur'an it self tells you how it is meant to be read. And how to deal with contradictions within it.
All earlier remarks are to be forgotten and later remarks taken if you run into a contradiction. Hence the later remarks are the truth.
So the words of piece in the Qur'an are lies. Even dictated by the Qur'an, the Qur'an wants you to kill all who does not obey the Qur'an.

See a person takes the time to really study up on the Qur'an learns just how evil it really is.
It even said its a sin to lie to a fellow member of your religion, but it tells you its ok to lie, steal, cheat, and kill anyone that is not of that religion.

So tell me are you lien to us right now? Or are you that blind of your own holy scripture that you missed all that?

I already did a video on that.. its here on the ED as well if you want more information on it, and the Qur'an.



You should show some respect for other religions , and your Opinion is no needed as long as there's a one person in this world believe in Qur'an , who are you to speak about A Relgion ? , you have so much free time to find out about other religions , but you forgot to find out about your self and learning how to open your closed mind !!
this is about fath and believes , thats something you can NOT change . just don't waste your time !!



One Respect is earned not given freely just because if I don't it hurt your feelings.

As an example, I also do not give Drunks that beat there kids respect, even if they scream they demand respect. Because in the end what do they do to earn my respect. violence does not get respect. and the Qur'an is a testament of Violence, deception and hate.

On another note I am a free thinker, I take the time to learn about everything, and gather the facts about everything to come down to an outcome. That is how I know I am not close minded. But you claim that I should respect your ideals based on what? No matter what I should have faith in it based on what? I had a hard enough time picking my self up off of the floor.. I was Laughing so hard. The lack of common sense and logic in your post was great. I have not felt that good in ages..

Learn what your faith stands for, then tell me who is close minded.

As for me as a free thinker , your no more then an Ignorant lonesome , Respect is something to earn as you say ! yeah , thats why you will never earn it LOL , did i make you laugh ? thats fine , you might need to laugh , there's no reason for you to laugh !! am glad that i help ya .
I guess ur feelings is hurt as well , thats why you pay Attention for my post !!
you know keep talking !! am much better then wasting my time on your Nonsense blah blah blah


Posted 8/2/10

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Okay I'm leaving this thread until people who know that "YOU" is a THREE LETTER WORD begin posting here.

I refuse to argue with the illiterate.


Hey there , I was wondering why you keep focus on the English Queen Writing ! and you forgot about the meaning we try to say it out to you !! yeah , English is not my Language but am sure that what am saying is Understandable , coz am here for watching and makeing friends , learns about ppl minds too , so don't make it hard , you talk like a teacher in school
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