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i was duped into thinking serious atheists would be posting ITT. just seems like another chance for believers and non-believers to have a go at eachother. admit it both sides secretly love flaming eachother


its true. we do so love to attack the opposite end of the spectrum
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i just want to know: what are believers main reason for believing?
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his or her love us
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magnus102 wrote:

I think you can. After all I cant know for sure santa is fake.....


If you don't know for sure, then you don't know. "Karate middle"
Being an atheist is like saying you know for sure Santa doesn't exist. "Karate don't"

You cannot make a good argument later if you dont choose between the two. You can only put your thesis as either:

"I can neither prove that a God exists or doesn't"
or
"I can prove that God does not exist"
or
"I can prove that God exists"


Couldn't agree more with you. I believe in God, but I realized a long time ago that I couldn't prove him to the world. It would be a test of faith for each and every one of us. Exactly why I don't try to feed other people my beliefs. More or less, the only thing that bothers me about Atheists is their general hypocritical/ignorant nature.

They stand their and point at a Christian and say, "I don't like you, your narrow-minded". Then they don't want to listen/read anything a Christian has to say about it. They falsely accuse them of several things (especially Christianity) that they never really did. Like Atheists have never done Anything bad, because they're obviously perfect citizens (point in case, Agamaru)

But this is my last post on this, so take my words however you want, worry about them in your fickle little minds, whatever makes you happy. But try not to flame me, I won't get you anywhere.
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of course not..
why would I hate God?..
I even thank him for giving me a nice life and a nice parents...
I know everybody is thankful to God..
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applexshampoo wrote:

i was duped into thinking serious atheists would be posting ITT. just seems like another chance for believers and non-believers to have a go at eachother. admit it both sides secretly love flaming eachother


I am a very serious atheist. Good post. All right then my question to believers is that why has god refused to come out and show himself to us? Surely a just being would want to give us every chance to save ourselves? I for one am glad that hes not real. Any god than would allow the pain that goes on is not on I want to worship


i'm not a believer, i'm an atheist. if you read my post on the first page you'd know where i stood

from what i've seen so far there are no serious atheists here, just ones looking for a flame fest
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I have real no faith any religion, because of all wars. Plus I think every religion has its + and -. Also I don't want limit myself to one religion. I do believe in god but in different kind of god. I don't believe god or any one beat created the universe. But I do believe that god has some effect on it, but not by power but in knowledge. I also think there more than one god. As if god is another race that advance high then us because simplify it been around longer. Think to Greek vision of gods only not some much in control.
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nah ii believe god =DDD
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magnus102 wrote:


applexshampoo wrote:

i was duped into thinking serious atheists would be posting ITT. just seems like another chance for believers and non-believers to have a go at eachother. admit it both sides secretly love flaming eachother


I am a very serious atheist. Good post. All right then my question to believers is that why has god refused to come out and show himself to us? Surely a just being would want to give us every chance to save ourselves? I for one am glad that hes not real. Any god than would allow the pain that goes on is not one I want to worship. The concept of a just loving god is surely irreconcilable with the human condition


So what your saying is, you choose to believe in some random human being than a loving god? Like Jesus? Who would you want to worship as a god? Oprah, or Jesus? Oprah's gonna screw you, and God doest screw. Evan though it seems like it, he does it because he loves us. And even though you may be going though some tough crap right now, God has a reson for everything hun.


Umm... is suicide a plan for god too? cause... isn't that a sin.. and the person go to hell? I don't get it...
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magnus102 wrote:


applexshampoo wrote:


magnus102 wrote:


applexshampoo wrote:

i was duped into thinking serious atheists would be posting ITT. just seems like another chance for believers and non-believers to have a go at eachother. admit it both sides secretly love flaming eachother


I am a very serious atheist. Good post. All right then my question to believers is that why has god refused to come out and show himself to us? Surely a just being would want to give us every chance to save ourselves? I for one am glad that hes not real. Any god than would allow the pain that goes on is not on I want to worship


i'm not a believer, i'm an atheist. if you read my post on the first page you'd know where i stood

from what i've seen so far there are no serious atheists here, just ones looking for a flame fest

I know you are an atheist. I was posing a question to the religious people out there. I just quoted you because you made an excellent point and I wanted to let you know that


ah, it gets confusing with all the quoting flying around.

my bad
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HypnoSurf22 wrote:

atheists are funnier since they think they know it all.


I agree with you.
I believe in Jesus 100% all the way. Because it only makes since. I mean, just think about it. I am pretty sure he has done ALOT of things for you people you just choose not to think of him as anything.

John 14:6 (King James Version)
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Also, it's a relationship not a religion.


using passages from the bible doesnt work. its circular logic
Scripture is irrelevent unless you can:
1) prove god
2) prove your god
3) prove your god wrote said scripture
4) prove it hasn't changed since

you haven't established step one

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I hate religious talks....


Me too!!

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AT_En_Grey wrote:
Umm... is suicide a plan for god too? cause... isn't that a sin.. and the person go to hell? I don't get it...


Uhm... Suicide is obviously someone's choice, don't go about saying it's God's fault... I can't say I'm a believer but I also can't say I don't have faith in him at all.. There are times when there is no one else to turn to.... but seeing religious nuts go about and seemingly force religion upon people seems wrong... I recently heard a sermon where it seemed to say WITH OUT GOD YOU'RE BONED

It should be considered a serious idea, to think about religions, but I don't see a reason to hate anything.... Just believe it or not, ignore what people say until you believe you need to know more about it.
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nope...... nutral...let meat firs befor i was my hate on him .....
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Here's a thought:

Wouldn't Atheism believe in the equality of all things? Since if there is one identity that is superior than any other, then that means at the top of that pyramid there is a supreme being or a group of supreme being, so that's not atheism anymore. So for atheism to hold true, everything must be absolutely equal. For a world to not have a supreme being, the concept of "superiority" must be abolished in the first place, hence.. everything equal.Then that means...


..a democratic government is one gigantic Atheistic establishment?

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