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World's greatest secular human in history.
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Allhailodin wrote:

Gorge Carlin tops any one in this category to ever walk the earth. Nobody even holds a candle to him.


I'll vote for George Carlin too.
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'I have to put Bruce Lee before George Carlin, But yes 2nd George Carlin choice.
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Hate to break the rules by stating two people, but you can count these two as one:
The silicon chip was invented in 1961 by two American electrical engineers, Jack Kilby and Robert Noyce.

Jack Kilby and Robert Noyce since they both acknowledged co-invention of the Silicon chip in 1961. Some specifics:

Jack Kilby - Nobel Prize laureate in physics in 2000 for his invention of the integrated circuit in 1958 while working at Texas Instruments (TI). He is also the inventor of the handheld calculator and thermal printer. Long story short, basically a big deal in modern technology.

Robert Noyce - nicknamed "the Mayor of Silicon Valley", co-founded Fairchild Semiconductor in 1957 and Intel in 1968. While Kilby's invention was six months earlier, neither man rejected the title of co-inventor. Noyce was also a mentor and father-figure to an entire generation of entrepreneurs, including Steve Jobs at Apple, Inc.


Both important figures in the development of our Information Age.

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EDIT: I don't think philosophers are considered "great humans" when viewing them from a practical standpoint.
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Posted 8/6/10

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My Entry:

Alfred Nobel

A chemist and physicist, he developed two critical chemicals that go 'BOOM!' - Dynamite and Ballistite (Gelignite?).

What red blooded male wouldn't think the guy who invented modern explosives and smokeless gun powder was pretty awesome?

After his death, the execution of his will established the Nobel Prizes. These prizes annually reward people for excellence in scientific fields and for promoting peace.

As a patriot and a diabetic I'm happy that my fellow Canadians Banting and MacLean were awarded a Nobel Prize for discovering insulin and that Then Prime Minister Lester B. Pearson received the Nobel Peace Prize for pioneering the concept of UN peace keeping Troops. A mission that Canadian soldiers have been heavily involved with ever since (63 years now).

so... that's my nomination: Alfred Nobel.



(edited for grammar errors and clarity)


My biggest problem with Alfred Nobel it was his own feeling of guilt that lead up to the Nobel Prize. Unfortunately the politic has ruined some of the Nobel prize Arafat, Jimmy Cater., Al gore
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Allhailodin wrote:

Gorge Carlin tops any one in this category to ever walk the earth. Nobody even holds a candle to him.


You've obviously never gotten to know this guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q95kX_EP2Nk&feature=related
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Posted 8/6/10
Bill Hicks duly noted as a nomination?
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excalion wrote:


Allhailodin wrote:

Gorge Carlin tops any one in this category to ever walk the earth. Nobody even holds a candle to him.


You've obviously never gotten to know this guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q95kX_EP2Nk&feature=related


Is he not kinda a hypocrite though. He talks about peace and non=Violence solutions, then he talking about I wanna see more violence and I wanna see people die.

I admit He did have a few good remarks on Government control. And The Freedom Allusion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs-nHQYY6Fg&feature=related


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The thing about Bill Hicks is you can't take everything he says literally. He would purposefully say outlandish things sometimes just to show how ridiculously outlandish they are. Watch the video of him talking about dinosaurs and Jesus. I lol'd for a good while after hearing that one.
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DomFortress wrote:

Religion is the opium of the people. -Karl Marx

Just for that critical analysis of organized religion alone, I think Karl Marx is the model exemplar for secular human, IMHO. And even when there was a problem with his criticism of religion is wholly determined by material and economic realities. But when we apply the concepts of human irrationality known as "loss aversion" and "confirmation bias", within the context of behavior economics. It's thereby not had to see just how easily humanity can be fooled by their own pattern for self-deception, when organized religion equals superstition.


tarakelly wrote:

George Washington is a person with integrity to me. He could have been king and walked away from it.
The fact that he could be religious makes him fallible as a secular human.


You must be on some different world where ever one the same needs want and ambition or the lack of. Most people that I have run in on this one have little to no drive they talk a good game but over look at all the people in the room. Because spouting that stuff of is only good If every one has the same dream wants and needs. Soviet Union. Fell under it on it's owe in many ways. There on competition and with out it people stagnate. Mark-ism is a Human spirit killer. Man you should be around older college professor that have degrees in anything that dose not matter much. They pride themselves on Marx work It might be there stuck there and or unhappy. But only if world knew Just how great a man he was. The funny thing is if they got their wished toppled the government and replaced with a Karl Marx government they be the killed so the new government dose not have to worry about those suicidal nut jobs. Now Call me all the names you want. My ego can handle it unlike yours.You make good point then you really mess up. One there this thing called humor mine tends to be off the wall and spur of the moment try relaxing smile breath fresh air nut that crap your putting out. Do think ever blasted detail through No i do not. If i need to draw out circuit making sure the machine plains are right or just a home building plains yes I almost as Anna as you are.
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So far We've got the Inventor(s) of the Microchip. (I'd be tempted to ditch Nobel for them, if they hadn't won the prize), Two Dead Comedian/ philosphers, One founding father of a nation, and... well that's about it

Dom hasn't really cleared up to my satisfaction why a nomination that begins with the famous dismissal of religion as an opiate isn't a religious nomination.

DarkPhoenix hasn't identified which of his 5 nominees he prefers. Actually Four. I've decided to treat the guy famous for writing a book titled "Why Atheism is necessary" as also taking a religious position.

any other entries? anyone,.... anyone Bueller?
Posted 8/7/10

tarakelly wrote:

Washington and the rest of the founding fathers of America owned and valued slavery enough to made it legal to own slaves, as it was written in the beginning of the American constitution. Karl Marx as a sociologist OTOH both publicly and politically opposed slavery.

So tell me, isn't it now illegal in America to own slaves? Who was right in the end with their standard and value on humanity? Slave owners? Or a sociologist?


papagolfwhiskey wrote:

So far We've got the Inventor(s) of the Microchip. (I'd be tempted to ditch Nobel for them, if they hadn't won the prize), Two Dead Comedian/ philosphers, One founding father of a nation, and... well that's about it

Dom hasn't really cleared up to my satisfaction why a nomination that begins with the famous dismissal of religion as an opiate isn't a religious nomination.

DarkPhoenix hasn't identified which of his 5 nominees he prefers. Actually Four. I've decided to treat the guy famous for writing a book titled "Why Atheism is necessary" as also taking a religious position.

any other entries? anyone,.... anyone Bueller?
Do you like my revision now?
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Sure Karl Marx for opposing slavery why not?
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Washington did want to free the slaves but under the law which mostly written by England and Europe freeing a slave could only happen after death and place in a will. Washington did as much as possibly without Destroying the Republic. If he did become a king slavery would have ended. Then again there would not be a Republic of the United State. When did you Canadians stop slavery? That one issue i am sure Washington struggled with. You see the check and balances set up the three branches of government. Unfortunately we have been going down the road of a democracy there life spanned about two hundred year The US paid a high price for the southern attendance on slave and I point that out to them often.-------------------------------------------- A signal president cannot make over night change up to now that is.
Posted 8/7/10 , edited 8/7/10

tarakelly wrote:

Washington did want to free the slaves but under the law which mostly written by England and Europe freeing a slave could only happen after death and place in a will. Washington did as much as possibly without Destroying the Republic. If he did become a king slavery would have ended. Then again there would not be a Republic of the United State. When did you Canadians stop slavery? That one issue i am sure Washington struggled with. You see the check and balances set up the three branches of government. Unfortunately we have been going down the road of a democracy there life spanned about two hundred year The US paid a high price for the southern attendance on slave and I point that out to them often.-------------------------------------------- A signal president can make over night change up to now that is.
I'm sorry, but we were just so busy freeing American slaves 'cause the Americans kept arresting them all. Would you like to have them back now?[/sarcasm]

Honestly, the irony did not escape me, not one bit.
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Karl Marx utopia carried out by the Soviet Union and china ruff guess over 100 million dead. What are numbers it not like live mean much for a Marxist. The end justifies the means correct? I do not know to much about Candida history but I do realize the Americans Black, White, and other did fight the British and we won barely. just one win for George Washington. With out Benjamin Franklin crafty old fart man of many trades and a master of many as well he's getting the Frog's to help us was just being a patience man and party animal all rolled into one. Franklin was my second pick but it to guts to hold a army together that why I chose Washington. As the Canadians watched what side did they want to win. Then again America set a trend Candida follows more or less.
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