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Posted 8/9/10

mystic17 wrote:

Of course nothing is wrong discussing it. but there's certain others who lurk around threads that involve religion like this one just to attack their beliefs. That's why I don't usually check them out anymore here because that's all that seems to be discussed in the ED. I'd like to make more threads for this forum, but I'm not sure people would like to discuss what's pondering my mind.
As long as it's not a biased view, I'm willing to hear you out. Just keep in mind that I can still disagree with you even though I understand you, when I play by my own rules before I blindly accept others'.
Posted 8/9/10
Oh I don't expect any different treatment for you or anyone else lol I'm not ready yet until I get the sources I need first, and make sure it'll be interesting enough to attract people to discuss about it.
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I hope Losingorbit is doing well some of her post had me concern for her not the moderator part please pass it on I do wish her well
Posted 8/9/10
This forum begins to suck more and more every day as the average of human intellect declines. We can bicker over what we want, but to expect any tangible changes being made to people as a whole here is rather pretentious. I like to get in on it sometimes expressing my side of things, but when it gets to the point that the person you are discussing a topic with has to attack you personally in one way or another, it just isn't worth it.

All the incessant faggotry could do well to cease.
Posted 8/9/10

mystic17 wrote:

Oh I don't expect any different treatment for you or anyone else lol I'm not ready yet until I get the sources I need first, and make sure it'll be interesting enough to attract people to discuss about it.
AKA the "writer's block". If you don't mind PM me your ideas, and I'll see what I can gather as source materials.
Posted 8/9/10
Um okay.
Posted 8/9/10

tarakelly wrote:

I hope Losingorbit is doing well some of her post had me concern for her not the moderator part please pass it on I do wish her well
Why don't you just PM her, instead of you making a grand public gesture that's otherwise unrelated?


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The "lulz" is serious business.
And that's relevant as in how?
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Posted 8/9/10 , edited 8/9/10

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neko-cat wrote:

is it really the only thread that was Started by a Muslim visitors?? i hope it is not the last ...

you know what i call it
scared from losing
scared from the truth
just scared from every thing

well thank you for closing down the thread ...
you just make my idea about you more strong....
---- you remember------>, our Holy Quran say about Unbeliever ,(Deaf, dumb and blind, they do not understand) [Baqarah: 171] they are deaf dumb blind for guidance
you try to hide things because you don't want to believe it and you don't want others to believe it....
if what i was talking about not true then you will not be that scared to close it down ... (it proves that it is true )

you prove that Islam is true

you closed it because you don't have the courage to Discuss it with me and prove that you are correct....
so it was necessary for you to close the topic... and not to lose .....

i feel sorry about you .....
what will you do when the judgment day came ?????? you will wish that you had never born or you will wish that you were a sand...

by the way i can open a new thread and chat with you, but i think it is a waste of time ...
but if you want just tell me or PM me and i will be happy to answer some of your questions .....
i really respect some people who i discussed things with ... i mean the people who show respect

Thank you


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:Thank you for making my point.

green On the other hand making accusations of cowardice while claiming a victory -I- at least haven't conceded is not a good way to promote dialogue. Nor is claiming knowledge of the other person's heart and mind. I stopped responding to your posts on one thread because you kept saying that I agreed with you but wouldn't admit it.

purpleActually no. It was closed by the moderators after repeated complaints of people violating the rules of the forum. I suggest you look at the those rules they are 'sticky'-ed to the top of this section of the forum. If you don't violate those rules the Mods have no reason to shut you down.

I won't pretend to know the minds of the mods but I'm sure some of the angry insulting posts directed at you were not helping.

on the other hand as far as I've concerned you've proved nothing.

(1) your entire proof comes from a single book which you insist is the necessary and sufficient source.

IE - you insist that all you need for proof is the words in the Qu'ran and all that is acceptable for proof is the words of the Qu'ran.

Since I don't agree with (1) above we will have a difficult time agreeing on anything. While I'm willing to acknowledge your respect for the Qu'ran there are any number of valid observations and information sources. If the Qu'ran said the sky was green, I would look up at the sky and make my own judgement with my own eyes.

Therefore, in order to prove anything to us, you have to step outside the Qu'ran and prove it as a superior information source OR, make your proof without resorting to the Qu'ran.

When debating with someone. Throwing personal insults like accusations of cowardice, or dishonesty (Domfortress is NOT helping with his constant cry of Liar!) Telling the other person what they think etc. are not tactics that will aid in reasoned discourse.

I'm sure if you're willing to try and keep it civil. so can I.


what i said in the green color is not for you
it was for the people who keep reporting my posts are the one who i was talking to ( they are the once who are scared from the truth)

my entire proof is from ----> science + the Holy Quran = Truth ( didn't you notice that ??)

you want me to prove the HOLY QURAN is from ALLAH with out resorting to the Quran!!!!!!!!!???
tell me how can i prove something is true with out resorting to it????????

well in my last post i was not debating with any one .... i was saying my conclusions ....













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tarakelly wrote:

I hope Losingorbit is doing well some of her post had me concern for her not the moderator part please pass it on I do wish her well
Why don't you just PM her, instead of you making a grand public gesture that's otherwise unrelated?


CarboKill wrote:

The "lulz" is serious business.
And that's relevant as in how?


Because I am not on her buddy list. And if you where as sensitive as you are smart. should have picked up on it, that thing were not right Duff-ass By the way I tried several ways to pass on my concerns to others that may have here on their list or may have other contacts. by the way allot of thing I would not say opening.
Posted 8/9/10
He means send her a private message, like I sent you when you tried to add me.



Under LosingOrbit profile or information here, just click the highlighted part to send her a private message.
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Thank you I thought you had to be a buddy to send private message.
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No problem. You can send a pm to anyone here.
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no you have to be a buddy to use the guestbook. two different functions. One shows up on your guestbook the other shows up on your inbox.
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Posted 8/9/10

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I don't know which is the threat concerned, but I can tell from the posts here that it had a fair bit of proselytising in it. When it comes to someone who is so far carried away with a religion that he or she is willing to attempt to convert people, there will be no discussion. The rules of argumentation no longer apply, logic no longer applies because in the eyes of the religious person these things cannot trump faith. If you believe yourself to be right and base this on faith, there is truly nothing to discuss. Without rules there is no common language for us, there is no dialogue. I don't see how taking the piss out of someone without any desire to engage in argumentation can be seen as reprehensible.


I don't see it that way. We had two threads up here that attracted a few Muslim posters. One started her own thread puporting to prove Islam. I didn't see arrogance(although there was some) so much as sincerity and naivete. I thought it was worth the effort to TRY and have a conversation before I decided the person was hopelessly mired and resorting to extracting the urine. Not even sure I'd do that then. I don't waste my time on the internet for the ephemeral 'lulz'
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Posted 8/9/10

neko-cat wrote:

what i said in the green color is not for you
it was for the people who keep reporting my posts are the one who i was talking to ( they are the once who are scared from the truth)

my entire proof is from ----> science + the Holy Quran = Truth ( didn't you notice that ??)

you want me to prove the HOLY QURAN is from ALLAH with out resorting to the Quran!!!!!!!!!???
tell me how can i prove something is true with out resorting to it????????

well in my last post i was not debating with any one .... i was saying my conclusions ....


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Actually they were reporting your posts because you were violating the rules of the forum. Had your posts been in conformity with the rules the mods would have told those reporters... well they wouldn't have said anything they just wouldn't have done anything to the post.

The thread got shut down not because those who were giving you a hard time wanted it shut down, but because the Mods were sick of having to deal with that thread and people's behaviour on it. While that may include your posts, I have no doubt it also included those who were trying to as one commentator put it "take the piss out" which a crude way of saying things like 'deflate your ego', 'steal your thunder' or otherwise, basically, attack you because they didn't like the tone of your posts.

orange You want ME to prove the world is what it is and not necesarily Mohammed's (peace be upon him, if I'm allowed to say that) using only the Qu'ran? hard isn't it. Worse Every other faith, Weather it's the many flavours of Christianity (some of them different from each other as Shia/Sunni are from Ahmadiyya) has it's holy book and they would react JUST like you. Because for the believers (of any faith) faith requires no proof and answers all questions. But if you are unable to make that leap of faith all believers Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Mormon, Ahmadiyya, Ba'hia, Pastafarian (okay maybe not the adherents of The Flying Spaghetti monster, that's not a faith it's a hipster attack ON faith) all of them look alike. All faith boil down to 'Becuase my Prophet and my Holy Book say so."

If you want to PROVE something you have to use evidence and information that doesn't reduce down to 'because'.




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