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Posted 5/23/13 , edited 1/14/14

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Actually they are changing the VN heavily than Agarest Generation of War. The rating states "Mild Language" and Suggestive Themes" for If my heart had wings, while Agarest Generation of War has "Mild Language", "Partial Nudity" and "Suggestive Themes". The problem here is that it's a Japanese Company who is handling the localization and doesn't quite understand the demographic of VN in the west. Don't say 999 or Virtues Reward as those aren't really VN as it has actual gameplay.

I think they should just localize an original all-ages VN instead of this VN.

They should translate this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VshGzEEX2GI
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Posted 5/23/13 , edited 11/12/13
What i mean is that a nukige is all about the [phrase deleted]; story and the like is secondary. It's not about how many ero scenes, but about the primary selling point and reason for playing the game.

They should have gone with an all ages VN though, I agree. Ayakashibito has PS2 and PSP versions, and doesn't have a translation afaik, although it's older it's a pretty good game.

The trouble is that it seems Will wants to break more into the mainstream niche (like where NISA or Aksys is). They made two good choices in choosing a high quality game, that is recent and hasn't been translated.

Unfortunately they're stuck between a rock and a hard place. The original game is R18, that won't help the reputation of VNs as being porn games among that larger niche, but removing the R18 stuff will piss off fans, naturally.
That leads to them alienating part of their consumer base and basically risking everything on a big unknown in trying to break through to a more mainstream audience that is heavily biased against them.
On top of that, their initial showing of the game is pretty iffy with the overly stiff writing in the demo and site translation, and the iffy English from support mails as well not really helping clarify things.

I still hope they can get things together, Mangagamer also started out just as rough, if not more so, but they've gotten much better and generally do a good job keeping people informed and releasing solid games. They also released some games that I thought would never see the western side of the world 10-11 years ago, and them being a startup from the Japanese industry side reaching out, it has the potential to get others to look at the west as a potential market, just like MoeNovel is now.
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Posted 5/23/13 , edited 1/12/14

kardonius wrote:



I think I get what you mean by word "nukige". I sometime see people use that word but I have no idea what it is.

Do you have the game because you said this earlier "Don't know what cg rip you're counting from, but the one I'm counting from has 68 pages with 20 images per page". I'm curious where you get that "68 pages and 20 images per page".

Then now you are saying:
"Just counting from the gallery thumbnails from in-game though I got
unedited 62 images (includes non-ecchi sd)
ero 31 images (removed)
ecchi 6 (includes potential ecchi category sd)"

Mine:
Non-H: 34 CG (Not removed, Includes 1-2 kissing scene which might get edited)
H: 35 CG (Will be removed)
Beach and Bath scene: 11 CG (Will be edited.)
SD: 19 CG (There are 4-5 CG which might be in ecchi category)

I still think there's more H than Non-H (Comparing "Non-H: 34 CG and H: 35 CG"). I'm not including the SD CG since it isn't standard and they only show 1/2 size of it during conversation. Also, it's often use to illustrate jokes. Some of the SD CG will be removed or edited since MoeNovel states in their e-mail that sexual jokes will be removed. Also keep in mind that's a large portion of the VN being removed and they have no plans on adding additional new CG in the VN which explains why it has low price.

I counted 3 times throughout the cg album and I still don't get where you got "ero 31 images". (It would be helpful if you take a screenshot of it)

Lastly, I'm so sorry I had to reply because I just want to clarify that there's more H than Non-H and most of the forum I've seen think the same (more H than Non-H).
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Posted 5/23/13 , edited 11/12/13

Animecrunchymax wrote:

I think I get what you mean by word "nukige" but you still haven't told me what you mean by [phrase deleted]. I sometime see people use that word but I have no idea what it is.

Do you have the game because you said this earlier "Don't know what cg rip you're counting from, but the one I'm counting from has 68 pages with 20 images per page". I'm curious where you get that "68 pages and 20 images per page".

Then now you are saying:
"Just counting from the gallery thumbnails from in-game though I got
unedited 62 images (includes non-ecchi sd)
ero 31 images (removed)
ecchi 6 (includes potential ecchi category sd)"

Mine:
Non-H: 34 CG (Not removed, Includes 1-2 kissing scene which might get edited)
H: 35 CG (Will be removed)
Beach and Bath scene: 11 CG (Will be edited.)
SD: 19 CG (There are 4-5 CG which might be in ecchi category)

I still think there's more H than Non-H (Comparing "Non-H: 34 CG and H: 35 CG"). I'm not including the SD CG since it isn't standard and they only show 1/2 size of it during conversation. Also, it's often use to illustrate jokes. Some of the SD CG will be removed or edited since MoeNovel states in their e-mail that sexual jokes will be removed. Also keep in mind that's a large portion of the VN being removed and they have no plans on adding additional new CG in the VN which explains why it has low price.

I counted 3 times throughout the cg album and I still don't get where you got "ero 31 images". (It would be helpful if you take a screenshot of it)

Lastly, I'm so sorry I had to reply because I just want to clarify that there's more H than Non-H and most of the forum I've seen think the same (more H than Non-H).


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They said they would remove sexual jokes but that doesn't neccessarily mean they'll remove the cgs related to the jokes. They could edit them as they would the bath scenes. It all depends on how they write the scenes in the English version.

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Posted 5/24/13 , edited 1/12/14

kardonius wrote:





Oh

That's not exactly 31 H images. See, that's a lot of portion being removed and edited.

You still haven't explained this "68 pages and 20 images per page" to me yet. You pirated that VN right because you wouldn't be saying "68 pages and 20 images per page" if you have the VN and there's not reason to look at other source just to count it. I'm only wondering sorry.

Looking at your screenshot I can identify it whether it's legit or not. Well never mind that. You missed to circle some CG that is going to be edited or removed and some of the CG that are shown during at the start of H will be definitely be removed and not edited since MoeNovel said that all H will be removed, so there's no point including those parts. You obviously didn't play the VN. Sorry if I'm wrong. Anyway, I'm still buying it regardless how they edit the VN. Just in case you're wondering I have this VN, I play VN to practise my Japanese it's easier than book because it has voices hahaha

Edit: I would like to post my screenshot as well to show how I counted it but I don't to fill up this topic with our conversation and I'm currently on my phone. I'm sorry.
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Posted 5/24/13
Like I said when I first posted 68 pages and 20 images, That was a CG rip, so it included all event CGs and variations individually, it was ripped from the game data by a jp group.

As for removing CGs from the beginning of H scenes, it depends on how they write the scenes out of the game. I highly doubt they'll just chop everything related to the scene out without writing around the removal of material. They may or may not remove those CGs, We won't really know until it's released.

No, I haven't played the VN, actually only found out about it when it was announced they were releasing an English version, I haven't kept up to date very well on JP VN releases. Yes it was a downloaded version, and a 100% clear save, I actually downloaded it especially for this conversation.
Personally, since it's planned to get an English release, I don't plan on buying or playing the game until it comes out.

VNs are definitely great practice for Japanese though. I played through Zanmataisei Demonbane for practice and learned a lot more than I had with any other self study (because I'm lazy)

This thread was fairly dead beforehand though, so I don't think there's much of a problem in talking about this here, it's relevant, and I want people to make the most informed purchases they can, the more data about what may or may not happen people have to decide with, the better in my book.
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Posted 7/11/13 , edited 11/12/13
Huge new releases have been announced at AX
JAST USA has licensed and is releasing Steins;Gate
[mod edit: NSFW link removed --lorreen]

They have also licensed Little Witch Romanesque, and some other games

Mangagamer have announced they have not only gotten the licenses for the voiceover in the first Kara no Shoujo, they've announced they will be releasing a limited edition hardcopy release that includes it, it is also available for the digital version.

They have also announced licenses of Cartagra, and Kara no Shoujo 2.

Another new title, although it's been up for sale for a few weeks before AX. World End Economica, an All-ages VN about economics. Written by the best person for the job at that. Isuna Hasekura, author of the Spice & Wolf novels.
http://www.mangagamer.com/detail.php?goods_type=1&product_code=76

along with a few other titles
[mod edit: NSFW link removed --lorreen]
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Posted 7/11/13

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Only played Katawa Shoujo and man the feels :\ I haven't found anything that can top it yet. Any suggestions?


If your looking for feels... and are willing to subject yourself to excruciating drama then go with "Kana Little Sister". Beware the end has Minor H scenes. This VN will depress the shit out of you if you really get into it and get the true ending.
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Posted 7/11/13

Mycow8me wrote:


JohnnyScene wrote:

Only played Katawa Shoujo and man the feels :\ I haven't found anything that can top it yet. Any suggestions?


If your looking for feels... and are willing to subject yourself to excruciating drama then go with "Kana Little Sister". Beware the end has Minor H scenes. This VN will depress the shit out of you if you really get into it and get the true ending.


I will look into it
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Posted 7/27/13
How about Uta Prince sama, Diabolik Lovers or Dandelion
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Posted 7/30/13 , edited 7/30/13
http://www.hanakogames.com/

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Life Simulation

anime style and in english.
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XBlaze: Code Embryo just came out a week or two ago in japan, so its not translated, but its still good.
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I love to read VNs. My favorite is G-Senjou no Maou. The Muv-Luv series is also very superb. Highly recommend them.
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HATE PLUS IS ON STEAM NOW.
.....Sorry for shouting, but I just had to get it out somewhere.
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The only visual novel I read was Fate Stay Night. 'Cause I'm a hipsta mofo.


Bro, is there a place where I can legally download the first installment of Muv-luv?

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