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What Extreme Men are Good For?
Posted 8/17/10 , edited 8/17/10
IMHO, culture is an unique creation of pure human imagination. It certainly could not have existed without the human minds, however it can change and evolve all on its own at a relatively faster rate, than a human's brain can comprehend all of its complexity up to now. And the strangest part about it is the fact that it's a system that pretty much governs our societies, no matter how we constantly claim that we can have "free-will". In other words, the more diverse a society's culture is, the more rapid that society will change, and more differences between how individually humans will behave.

So in a nutshell, when you consider the cultural usefulness of either extremely smart or stupid men. It's utterly ironic that those retards at the US department of defense would invest on a weapon development know as the "gay bomb". And yes, when the opportunity arises, levelheaded women OTOH are pretty smart at telling it like it is. I mean let's face it, when women had to deal with just how extremely superficial men can be, being sociable just wouldn't cut it.
Posted 8/17/10 , edited 8/17/10
Then we have all this shit with Jennifer Aniston talking about how women don't need a man in their lives, just get in vitro fertilized, and raise their kids without a strong pair of arms to protect and comfort them. How fucked is that? As for gay bombs, I think the implication of that is enough to demoralize the enemy into submission.
Posted 8/17/10

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Then we have all this shit with Jennifer Aniston talking about how women don't need a man in their lives, just get in vitro fertilized, and raise their kids without a strong pair of arms to protect and comfort them. How fucked is that? As for gay bombs, I think the implication of that is enough to demoralize the enemy into submission.
Honestly, I find that women sensitivity and sentimentality are the exact healing touch I needed, in order for me to accept my own emotional self. That, and the occasional gay men mentality -minus the sexual preference- feels very authentic to me. Furthermore, lately I find myself more often to speak up against gender inequality that's in fact culturally established. When I turned my aggression towards those which are unjustly oppressive, cultures included.
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I do not understand what fantasyland you are in woman are catching up to men in violent crime. Noe that there faced with making it on there own. Men tend to be straight forward and get to the point woman use manipulation to get what the want. different sex have different mentalities. Talk to a woman that been through menopause for ten or more years their estrogen level become low and testosterone level goes higher that why their body changes so much. Big nose bigger ears more facial hair and in some case very angry. My mother had children I was first born and she would remind me that she hated me for the pain I caused at birth, plus i was her punching bag for all the wrong she went through or my dad did not pay enough attention to her. So when you come out of la-la land women can be just as mean and violent as men just sneaker, If a woman is not pleasant to the eye of others she gets judge harshly by other women.---------------------------------Know women tend to what safety over there on freedom, men are catching up in this class basically what your describing is not real good ideal but how wants a good boy most the woman i know like going out with the so called bad boys or one that have allot of drive and ambition. I am glad your finding your feminine side if it make you happy. Me my biggest fear was to be like my mother a hateful mean spirited woman that had many many sides but they were rolls to her.
Posted 8/18/10

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Unless you can find cultural reference that support domestic abuse, I think your point is moot. Then again the bible makes lousy parenting guide for its clear distinction of approving corporal punishment as children behavior modifier.
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Posted 8/18/10

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tarakelly wrote:
Unless you can find cultural reference that support domestic abuse, I think your point is moot. Then again the bible makes lousy parenting guide for its clear distinction of approving corporal punishment as children behavior modifier.


Dom let me look for you, I do think I have come across a study on Woman mentality.

That show woman to be a lot less trustworthy than a male wen it comes to telling the truth, also for Grudges, family violence / verbal abuse,
More likely to be superstitious and be violent and deceitful about defending their beliefs/superstitions. Plus their more likely to be judgmental.

I get back to you with the study if I can find it again.


Posted 8/18/10 , edited 8/18/10

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DomFortress wrote:


tarakelly wrote:
Unless you can find cultural reference that support domestic abuse, I think your point is moot. Then again the bible makes lousy parenting guide for its clear distinction of approving corporal punishment as children behavior modifier.


Dom let me look for you, I do think I have come across a study on Woman mentality.

That show woman to be a lot less trustworthy than a male wen it comes to telling the truth, also for Grudges, family violence / verbal abuse,
More likely to be superstitious and be violent and deceitful about defending their beliefs/superstitions. Plus their more likely to be judgmental.

I get back to you with the study if I can find it again.


Keep in mind though, if the causes were culturally or sociologically related, then I can't accept them as factual proofs of the women psyche being naturally malicious by a statistical majority. Other than that you've found far less percentage of female psychopaths and sociopaths as oppose to the male counterpart:

Prevalence and Causes of Antisocial Personality Disorder

Antisocial personality disorder appears in 3.6 percent of the adult US population, or approximately 7.6 million people. The condition appears to be more common in men than women, although this may be because the male sociopath is more likely to receive a diagnosis.

Sociopaths and psychopaths make up a high percentage of inmates in US prisons. An estimated eighty percent of male inmates have antisocial personality disorder. Female sociopaths are thought to make up 65 percent of the populace in women's prisons.(citation)
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I agree the bible is lousy parenting guide if fact most most religious text is a lousy guide. I do believe in spanking but only after the parents has control over themselves. I will not allow a younger person make me loose my composer, nor will I hit a child out of anger. To me borrow beating a girl dose more mental damage then a spanking. Emotional scares carry on long after that a spanking ends when the pain end mostly. I have scares on me that will never go way physically and mental. If you let a child upset you who's in charge the child is. I believe that a good parent is never their close friend but a trusted guardian. Friendship between the child and parent can happen-after the child has been raised. I generally will give a warning then a time out then spanking after I have them wait. I have not read anything about child re-rearing I never wanted one. All this advice came to me from PHD physiologist as I worked on his house and helped raise there new born twines and a one year old girl missing her corpuscles-coliseum (The center part that connects the left and right side of the brain). i did this for two years while trying to Deal with my own problem I would have never taken the job if I knew he wanted a guardian from his wife. He said this to another Doctor that I was the type that would fight to the death to protect his kids. He was right i would have, but when I was not around the boys got poisoned of the older sister medication. That was some-thing I could not control. I felt feeling I never knew I had and felt good for short period of time. a couple of other accidents happened again not on my watch and The Doctor told me what the father said. I had to quit for my own mental well being, safety and the mother. I still wounder how there doing to this day. What made the mother really unstable was she used furniture stripper while pregnant with the first child and did not read the safety precautions. By the way the first attack is generally the woman in a relationship 55% of the time. A man should walk away unless his life is endangered.
Posted 8/18/10

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I agree the bible is lousy parenting guide if fact most most religious text is a lousy guide. I do believe in spanking but only after the parents has control over themselves. I will not allow a younger person make me loose my composer, nor will I hit a child out of anger. To me borrow beating a girl dose more mental damage then a spanking. Emotional scares carry on long after that a spanking ends when the pain end mostly. I have scares on me that will never go way physically and mental. If you let a child upset you who's in charge the child is. I believe that a good parent is never their close friend but a trusted guardian. Friendship between the child and parent can happen-after the child has been raised. I generally will give a warning then a time out then spanking after I have them wait. I have not read anything about child re-rearing I never wanted one. All this advice came to me from PHD physiologist as I worked on his house and helped raise there new born twines and a one year old girl missing her corpuscles-coliseum (The center part that connects the left and right side of the brain). i did this for two years while trying to Deal with my own problem I would have never taken the job if I knew he wanted a guardian from his wife. He said this to another Doctor that I was the type that would fight to the death to protect his kids. He was right i would have, but when I was not around the boys got poisoned of the older sister medication. That was some-thing I could not control. I felt feeling I never knew I had and felt good for short period of time. a couple of other accidents happened again not on my watch and The Doctor told me what the father said. I had to quit for my own mental well being, safety and the mother. I still wounder how there doing to this day. What made the mother really unstable was she used furniture stripper while pregnant with the first child and did not read the safety precautions. By the way the first attack is generally the woman in a relationship 55% of the time. A man should walk away unless his life is endangered.
Once again I'm gonna need factual proof for that statement, and not your made-up entitlement claims without you considering the sociological existence of the "battered wives" syndrome.
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Will if a woman lets herself be battered in the USA she should live and prosecuted the clown. Unfortunately women have this miss conception if they love a man enough he will change which is a messed up view. I allot of these case the father was a absent father being there or not was not a real guardian. The most important years of development for boys and girls is attention that there mother give the second is when the boys and girl hit the teenage years the Father is very important here more so than the mother. I would have to try to find a sight that dose not advertise which is difficult to do. But girl are far less to have a baby out of civil union and boy stay out of trouble. Batter Wive syndrome in most case can be liked to this. I grew up with PTSD and suffer allot from it to this day.---------------------------------------- Am cold maybe sometime I wish young girls would not read romance novels they need to understand that men have there own problem and only they can take care of them that's also goes Women as well. I had a boyfriend that tried to run my life I thorough a hammer past his head and I picked the second one and tolled I would not miss. I know how to be a violent person which I hate but I learned this from my up bring. If they do not do anything about it they stay that there choice and hear one for you what about batter men I known a couple but never tell anyone, most of the ones I met where combat veterans at NCO Clubs. I had allot of active army Sargent tell me thing they would not tell other. One day it hit me I had allot of the same experiences as a child being in life death situation and two times I almost killed two boy at different time but stopped short. God I felt confused and painful. I have a distant look back then and that probably why they would talk to me. By the way what are the real numbers for batter women compared to the whole population 5 to 10 percent or is it higher.------------------ I thing I do realize is enough press and good advocate in Washington DC can make a mole hill into a mountain the ones I really feel for are the children but they really do not count they can't vote. Because the kids are experiencing this as well in fact both parents are unfit to be parents to allow this to take place,
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IMHO, culture is an unique creation of pure human imagination. It certainly could not have existed without the human minds, however it can change and evolve all on its own at a relatively faster rate, than a human's brain can comprehend all of its complexity up to now. And the strangest part about it is the fact that it's a system that pretty much governs our societies, no matter how we constantly claim that we can have "free-will". In other words, the more diverse a society's culture is, the more rapid that society will change, and more differences between how individually humans will behave.

So in a nutshell, when you consider the cultural usefulness of either extremely smart or stupid men. It's utterly ironic that those retards at the US department of defense would invest on a weapon development know as the "gay bomb". And yes, when the opportunity arises, levelheaded women OTOH are pretty smart at telling it like it is. I mean let's face it, when women had to deal with just how extremely superficial men can be, being sociable just wouldn't cut it.


Just a brain fart (why did you name this) What Extreme Men are Good For? After I re-read your started paragraph. I Realized maybe you should have thought of a better Title Like Wife beater or Just violent men, to me a extreme male or female would be the cream of the crop. Perfect gentleman or lady every positive attribute and no negative ones.
Posted 8/19/10 , edited 8/19/10

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Just a brain fart (why did you name this) What Extreme Men are Good For? After I re-read your started paragraph. I Realized maybe you should have thought of a better Title Like Wife beater or Just violent men, to me a extreme male or female would be the cream of the crop. Perfect gentleman or lady every positive attribute and no negative ones.
That's the whole point, for extreme is a culturally neutral term, and without the extreme variables within humanity, our own cultures and subsequently our own societies won't change, for better or worst. In that sense, even comedians are a form of extreme individuals; it's culturally acceptable to talk about the wrongs in our societies in a humorous fashion.

Finally, the fact is we are not perfect, for perfection can only gets in the way of our own personal growth and self empowerment, and subsequently our own capacity to help others with what we know to overcome our own imperfections.
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I understand what your driving at.
Posted 8/19/10
Actually, some people complain about what extreme people are good at. They don't realize at the point of history, disregarding cultural preferences. We have been ruled by these so called "Extreme Men". There are a lot I guess that fits the description, some of them are genocide maniacs, some of them ruled empires and dynasties. They all have great ambitions, great motives, without them I don't think how the world would look like today.

What are extreme men good at? They bring change!

Without them, I do not think humanity would advance as we know it.
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Darkphoenix3450 wrote:-----that show woman to be a lot less trustworthy than a male wen it comes to telling the truth, also for Grudges, family violence / verbal abuse,
More likely to be superstitious and be violent and deceitful about defending their beliefs/superstitions. Plus their more likely to be judgmental.


Keep in mind though, if the causes were culturally or sociologically related, then I can't accept them as factual proofs of the women psyche being naturally malicious by a statistical majority. Other than that you've found far less percentage of female psychopaths and sociopaths as oppose to the male counterpart:


In both the red & blue portions I hi-lited above, I gotta ask, when studies on gender behaviors are done, how often do such studies give comparisons to diverse cultures? It seems to me differing cultural societies as well as differences in societies thru out history could show same behavioral tendencies for both genders depending on changes in the roles & expectations w / in the given culture. I've gotten the impression studies where role playing gives insight into bullying or in measuring assumed authority, even on the influences of a majority rule, patterns do often show a differentiation between genders. However, wouldn't the potential for both genders to behave the same as their opposite also be noted? ( I pose questions in order to learn, so don't blast my words, answer my questions, & educate me, please.)

Any one, male or female, treated as an inferior could potentially act out by telling lies, being superstitious, judgmental, deceitful, malicious, & any other paranoid behaviors. Seems to me, we are all victims as well as perpetrators of cultural stigma, & we are all true to human nature in all its forms, to one degree or another. Feminism or male chauvinism are merely back & forth efforts to take control, but neither are a true effort to gain equality for all. I'll wager equality won't be a reality until all acknowledge their own weaknesses & hurts to others, then make efforts to use their strengths to benefit all, & not only themselves (selfishly).
We, female or male, can & will trip up & reveal our stupidity, as well as step up & show true intelligence. Neither of us have complete dominance or control over either of them.
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