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Posted 5/13/10

Allhailodin wrote:


DomFortress wrote:


Allhailodin wrote:


DomFortress wrote:

You are also excused, so that you may let yourself exploited by others due to your nature of humanity.



No, I'm the type of person who exploits others.


That's no fun, when you're not socializing. By you not allowing yourself being exploited by others, when your view of humanity is a nature of exploitation. It's no wonder you can't sustain a lasting relationship.


Actually I would have no problem with a lasting relationship, if I had one. But I'm not in a relationship right now, but that's cool, but I'm not really interested in a relationship so its all good.

Why is not allowing myself to be exploited by others a bad thing ? That makes less than 0 sense. Being exploited by others is a bad thing. Why is being exploited by others good ?
Shouldn't you be the one asking yourself that question? Unless you're a hypocrite when it comes to your own nature, because you're not even human.

So yeah, why would you not want to do to yourself what you wanted to do to others? Could it be that you lack a sense of self-awareness?
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Posted 5/13/10 , edited 5/13/10

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Shouldn't you be the one asking yourself that question? Unless you're a hypocrite when it comes to your own nature, because you're not even human.


That makes no sense.

The definition of the word exploited is as follows

1. To make productive use of : aka to utilize;
2. To make use of meanly or unfairly for one's own

In other words to exploit someone is to take advantage of them for personal gain(utilize) while screwing them over in the process(unfairly).

Its not a situation one would want to find themselves in. It means your getting screwed over while the person screwing you over is reaping all the benefits. That not a good place to be. Not a good place at all.



So yeah, why would you not want to do to yourself what you wanted to do to others? Could it be that you lack a sense of self-awareness?


To do to myself what I want to to onto others ?

So in other words screw myself over for the benefit of others ? Basically selflessly helping people while receiving nothing in return correct ? Nah, I don't volunteer my services for free like that.

Services cost money of equal to or greater than value or the service / product provided. That's how business works you know.
Posted 5/13/10 , edited 5/13/10

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DomFortress wrote:

Shouldn't you be the one asking yourself that question? Unless you're a hypocrite when it comes to your own nature, because you're not even human.


That makes no sense.

The definition of the word exploited is as follows

1. To make productive use of : aka to utilize;
2. To make use of meanly or unfairly for one's own

In other words to exploit someone is to take advantage of them for personal gain(utilize) while screwing them over in the process(unfairly).

Its not a situation one would want to find themselves in. It means your getting screwed over while the person screwing you over is reaping all the benefits. That not a good place to be. Not a good place at all.



So yeah, why would you not want to do to yourself what you wanted to do to others? Could it be that you lack a sense of self-awareness?


To do to myself what I want to to onto others ?

So in other words screw myself over for the benefit of others ? Basically selflessly helping people while receiving nothing in return correct ? Nah, I don't volunteer my services for free like that.

Services cost money of equal to or greater than value or the service / product provided. That's how business works you know.
So not only you're antisocial, you're also irrational and illogical, all because you wanted to utilize people other than yourself unfairly.

Even people in China would like to see inhumane individual like yourself dead, so long as you're a tyrannic dictator. And that's only fair.
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Posted 5/13/10 , edited 5/13/10

DomFortress wrote:

So not only you're antisocial, you're also irrational and illogical, all because you wanted to utilize people other than yourself unfairly.

Even people in China would like to see inhumane individual like yourself dead, so long as you're a tyrannic dictator. And that's only fair.


Its not illogical or irrational to charge money for providing someone a service, its illogical to not charge for services or products.

Free doesn't pay bills.

And theres corruption in china all over the place lol

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2010-05/13/content_9842411.htm
Posted 5/13/10

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DomFortress wrote:

So not only you're antisocial, you're also irrational and illogical, all because you wanted to utilize people other than yourself unfairly.

Even people in China would like to see inhumane individual like yourself dead, so long as you're a tyrannic dictator. And that's only fair.


Its not illogical or irrational to charge money for providing someone a service, its illogical to not charge for services or products.

Free doesn't pay bills.

And theres corruption in china all over the place lol

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2010-05/13/content_9842411.htm
And you're still irrational and illogical, in a sense that you'll be hoarding resources, dehumanizing your specie, and supersaturating the market beyond sustainability. All because your corrupted obsession on currency; a tool invented for the sole propose to enable fair trade.

Therefore your money is no good, when yourself is corrupted.
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And you're still irrational and illogical, in a sense that you'll be hoarding resources, dehumanizing your specie, and supersaturating the market beyond sustainability. All because your corrupted obsession on currency; a tool invented for the sole propose to enable fair trade.

Therefore your money is no good, when yourself is corrupted.


Lol That's absolutely hilarious.
And completely retarded.

Why don't you quit your job and kill all your sources of income and see how long you have a roof over your head and food on your table. You can't survive in this world without money. Nothing except air is free.

I make my own money instead of working for someone else, how is that a bad thing ?
How is working for a living a bad thing ?

How is having a job and stimulating the economy hoarding resources and dehumanizing my species ? Please by all means explain that to me, I look forward to your answer.
Posted 5/13/10

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DomFortress wrote:

And you're still irrational and illogical, in a sense that you'll be hoarding resources, dehumanizing your specie, and supersaturating the market beyond sustainability. All because your corrupted obsession on currency; a tool invented for the sole propose to enable fair trade.

Therefore your money is no good, when yourself is corrupted.


Lol That's absolutely hilarious.
And completely retarded.

Why don't you quit your job and kill all your sources of income and see how long you have a roof over your head and food on your table. You can't survive in this world without money. Nothing except air is free.

I make my own money instead of working for someone else, how is that a bad thing ?
How is working for a living a bad thing ?

How is having a job and stimulating the economy hoarding resources and dehumanizing my species ? Please by all means explain that to me, I look forward to your answer.
So how's that matching up your nature of humanity being one of exploitation? Therefore I was still right at you being irrational and illogical, and now a hypocrite and a liar.
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Posted 5/13/10 , edited 5/13/10

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So how's that matching up your nature of humanity being one of exploitation? Therefore I was still right at you being irrational and illogical, and now a hypocrite and a liar.


Thats not what I asked, thats not even related to what I asked, if you recall what I asked you was


I make my own money instead of working for someone else, how is that a bad thing ?
How is working for a living a bad thing ?

How is having a job and stimulating the economy hoarding resources and dehumanizing my species ?


So instead of avoiding the question, go ahead an answer them, if you don't reply or just give another unrelated 'dodging' answer it just means I was right lol. So why don't you stop avoiding answering my questions and just go ahead and answer them.

And you have yet to prove how I am illogical or irrational, so unless you prove how I am those thing then its just a meaningless unthreatening words.
Posted 5/13/10

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DomFortress wrote:

So how's that matching up your nature of humanity being one of exploitation? Therefore I was still right at you being irrational and illogical, and now a hypocrite and a liar.


Thats not what I asked, thats not even related to what I asked, if you recall what I asked you was


I make my own money instead of working for someone else, how is that a bad thing ?
How is working for a living a bad thing ?

How is having a job and stimulating the economy hoarding resources and dehumanizing my species ?


So instead of avoiding the question, go ahead an answer them, if you don't reply or just give another unrelated 'dodging' answer it just means I was right lol. So why don't you stop avoiding answering my questions and just go ahead and answer them.

And you have yet to prove how I am illogical or irrational, so unless you prove how I am those thing then its just a meaningless unthreatening words.
I beg to differ, when you've already gone off topic by you lying about the nature of humanity being one of exploitation. Because now you're just attacking my person, without you explaining why your view on the nature of humanity had anything to do with your opinion on fornication.

So once again, why did you lied about your opinion that humans should be exploited by their economy but not by lawful marriage? When there are legal and economical benefits for married couples.
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Posted 5/13/10 , edited 5/13/10

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I beg to differ, when you've already gone off topic by you lying about the nature of humanity being one of exploitation. Because now you're just attacking my person, without you explaining why your view on the nature of humanity had anything to do with your opinion on fornication.

So once again, why did you lied about your opinion that humans should be exploited by their economy but not by lawful marriage? When there are legal and economical benefits for married couples.


Lol you failed to answer my question again, but oh well.

And its not a lie that human nature is naturally destructive, you just to look at the state of the world to figure that out lol. Terrorists, African Child Soldiers, Slavery, High murder rates, Drugs & Drug Lords, Organized Crime, Gladiators(roman, other, past tense), so on. May not be initially destructive by default when you come off the assembly line, but at some point in your life, it tends to become destructive.

Marriages fail, 50+% of them do lol. You may get economic rewards for being married, but today's people can't handle that apparently.

And what I said was im the type of person who exploits people if given an opportunity to.
I also said,(a separate issue tho) is that i like any other sane human being will try to make a profit if an opportunity to make money arises. (This is normal)
Sometimes the 2 go together, aka making a profit off of someone by exploiting them, but then again not always.

Besides in reality the majority of people don't have that much money, you'd have to exploit a fuckton of people to make an decent amount of money, its far easier to just start some kinda business.
Posted 5/13/10

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DomFortress wrote:

I beg to differ, when you've already gone off topic by you lying about the nature of humanity being one of exploitation. Because now you're just attacking my person, without you explaining why your view on the nature of humanity had anything to do with your opinion on fornication.

So once again, why did you lied about your opinion that humans should be exploited by their economy but not by lawful marriage? When there are legal and economical benefits for married couples.


Lol you failed to answer my question again, but oh well.

And its not a lie that human nature is naturally destructive, you just to look at the state of the world to figure that out lol. Terrorists, African Child Soldiers, Slavery, High murder rates, Drugs & Drug Lords, Organized Crime, Gladiators(roman, other, past tense), so on. May not be initially destructive by default when you come off the assembly line, but at some point in your life, it tends to become destructive.

Marriages fail, 50+% of them do lol. You may get economic rewards for being married, but today's people can't handle that apparently.

And what I said was im the type of person who exploits people if given an opportunity to.
I also said,(a separate issue tho) is that i like any other sane human being will try to make a profit if an opportunity to make money arises. (This is normal)
Sometimes the 2 go together, aka making a profit off of someone by exploiting them, but then again not always.

Besides in reality the majority of people don't have that much money, you'd have to exploit a fuckton of people to make an decent amount of money, its far easier to just start some kinda business.
When the fact is nothing worth doing was easy to begin with, you are still irrational and illogical by you seeking for the easy money, through you exploiting others.

Furthermore, when marriage itself equals easy money and social security. Even you who's into easy money won't get into a relationship with someone just so you can get married. When you only wanted to exploit people in the end, and not by you forming a relationship with them out of fairness for fairness sake.

Finally, you are bias with your view on human nature being one of destruction. When you ignored the obvious fact that humanity didn't ended up sustaining itself via violence. And the fact that you're not destroying yourself, by you being a hypocrite of your own nature is self-evident enough.
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Posted 5/13/10

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When the fact is nothing worth doing was easy to begin with, you are still irrational and illogical by you seeking for the easy money, through you exploiting others.


That's why i said i will start my own business and make my own money.



Furthermore, when marriage itself equals easy money and social security. Even you who's into easy money won't get into a relationship with someone just so you can get married. When you only wanted to exploit people in the end, and not by you forming a relationship with them out of fairness for fairness sake.


Marriage doesn't equal money, you don't get a paycheck for just being married, you have to have a job to get a paycheck.


Finally, you are bias with your view on human nature being one of destruction. When you ignored the obvious fact that humanity didn't ended up sustaining itself via violence. And the fact that you're not destroying yourself, by you being a hypocrite of your own nature is self-evident enough.


Violence is a myth ? bullshit, right now i could go into the other room and beat the crap out of my roommate if I really wanted to. That proves violence exists. People kill other people all the time, hell 1 murder probably occurs a day. people beat up other people all the time, that is the very definition of the word violence, so it exists, that is a fact lol. It occurs on every country on earth. so you can't tell me it doesn't exist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Humanity sustains itself cause we reproduce, Reproduction has made 6 billion of us lol, thats how we sustain our species, just like every other species on earth and off earth. Violence has nothing to do with sustaining our species.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reproduction
Posted 5/13/10

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You are once again making ridiculous claims by you going off topic, because if you're right that the nature of humanity is one of exploitation, while the history of humanity is one of violence. Then the reason why that our population keeps increasing is because we kept raping and raiding our own specie.

Now tell me, is that what's really going on!? Without you claiming hypothetical nonsense like you bluffing about being a murderer, when you yourself hadn't done any of the sort. And if your answer was a simple "yes", then wouldn't that suggest your own business is something akin of a whorehouse, or a hired-gun? Are you thereby planning to become a pimp, or a murderer? Because you are who you claimed you are, and nobodies in their right mindset would want to marry or to have a relationship with an antisocial individual like you.

Much less of a business plan by nature now, isn't it?
Posted 5/14/10 , edited 5/14/10
Where I am from, sex is pressured. All my peers tried to force me into it. They'd tell me all the time to just do it. Hurry up and do it! I thought, take a look at your own lives before you try to make me as miserable as you! They just don't get it. When you play with fire, you get burned. I don't believe nor care for marriage since combining souls is complete nonsense to me. People get in a rush to marry, too. They want so much to be as ''happy'' as everyone else and not look bad. Sex is only good for two thing; breeding and pair bonding. We have thrown shit all out of whack, but being that we are humans, it's perfectly normal.

[shit that nobody cares about] I look back on my life and think that it would have been nice to have this horde of girls trying to get with me, but reality was a cruel mistress. I instead fell in love with Death and Darkness, and deluded myself into relishing in the hatred of everything with thoughts of violence and suicide. I considered myself to be inferior to everyone else and all I did was suffer. The impression is everlasting. [/shit that nobody cares about]

Sex is this unknown thing to me which has no meaning. My body is deprived of it, and somehow, I don't even care.

I'm am killing myself just by living.
Posted 5/14/10 , edited 5/14/10

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Where I am from, sex is pressured. All my peers tried to force me into it. They'd tell me all the time to just do it. Hurry up and do it! I thought, take a look at your own lives before you try to make me as miserable as you! They just don't get it. When you play with fire, you get burned. I don't believe nor care for marriage since combining souls is complete nonsense to me. People get in a rush to marry, too. They want so much to be as ''happy'' as everyone else and not look bad. Sex is only good for two thing; breeding and pair bonding. We have thrown shit all out of whack, but being that we are humans, it's perfectly normal.

[shit that nobody cares about] I look back on my life and think that it would have been nice to have this horde of girls trying to get with me, but reality was a cruel mistress. I instead fell in love with Death and Darkness, and deluded myself into relishing in the hatred of everything with thoughts of violence and suicide. I considered myself to be inferior to everyone else and all I did was suffer. The impression is everlasting. [/shit that nobody cares about]

Sex is this unknown thing to me which has no meaning. My body is deprived of it, and somehow, I don't even care.

I'm am killing myself just by living.
As surprising as this may sound, there are those who managed to have a sense of humor within the context of your own interest. And then some.
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