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Does Crunchyroll have English dubbed shows?
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Posted 8/3/12

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12 episodes on a single disc? That would be great if they released them like that in the states. Sometimes they only put two episodes on a single disc.

I didn't think 12 episodes could fit onto one blu-ray disc.


For 40 dollars you can get angel beats from amazon.com the whole season, on amazon.co.jp you have to buy 7 different disk sets about $48 each, or more depending on the site plus shipping.




That's just insane and proves my point even further.

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Just downloaded the PS3 and signed up, I too wish there were a bigger Dubbed section, I like both
sometimes i just don't want to read. it would also keep me as a CR customer I'm still debating

For dubbed anime, your best bets are Funimation, The Anime Network, Netflix, and Hulu (Hulu Plus to view on devices), although except for the latter two, they aren't available on the PS3. If you don't mind springing at least $60 for a new Roku box, Funimation will offer an app with HD on it around the middle of this month, and they probably have the largest dub collection out there online for their paid subscribers.

While Netflix has a rather respectable number of dubbed anime for streaming, they have added very little since late last year. In contrast, Funimation makes dubs available for their premium members on the day of their DVD/BD release.

As an example, the uncensored dub of Freezing will be available on August 21. (Actually, the first two episodes will be available next Tuesday, August 7).

Speaking of early dub availability, I see we are also scheduled to get the first four dubbed episodes of Shakugan no Shana 2 on August 28, almost a month before the BD+DVD sets are released on September 25.

Frankly, the only bad thing about Funimation's Elite service is that their website sucks, and improvements have been promised for a while, but with no timetable. I'm hoping their Roku app works well enough that I can avoid it altogether.
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This is really really too bad. I very rarely JUST watch tv. Like... virtually never. I am usually doing 2-3 things at once. The lack of dub options is going to prettymuch guarantee that CR only gets one subscription from my family not 2... if they offered a selection of dubs that was more extensive I would probably get a separate subscription from my wife so we could both have our PS3's going without running into sign in issues. As is I will quite likely not get a separate subscription for each since I will only watch things very infrequently as much as I would love to see them, I just can't watch a subbed show the way I watch tv - and on my ps3 is where I would love to watch this since I use my second monitor for writing/posting/typing, my primary for gaming, and my tv for watching stuff like this. It's just too bad it's not an option for me alas - especially since netflix' anime selection in Canada is atrociously small. Like... pathetically small.

Truly unfortunate.
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Miso-kun wrote:

Just downloaded the PS3 and signed up, I too wish there were a bigger Dubbed section, I like both
sometimes i just don't want to read. it would also keep me as a CR customer I'm still debating

For dubbed anime, your best bets are Funimation, The Anime Network, Netflix, and Hulu (Hulu Plus to view on devices), although except for the latter two, they aren't available on the PS3. If you don't mind springing at least $60 for a new Roku box, Funimation will offer an app with HD on it around the middle of this month, and they probably have the largest dub collection out there online for their paid subscribers.

While Netflix has a rather respectable number of dubbed anime for streaming, they have added very little since late last year. In contrast, Funimation makes dubs available for their premium members on the day of their DVD/BD release.

As an example, the uncensored dub of Freezing will be available on August 21. (Actually, the first two episodes will be available next Tuesday, August 7).

Speaking of early dub availability, I see we are also scheduled to get the first four dubbed episodes of Shakugan no Shana 2 on August 28, almost a month before the BD+DVD sets are released on September 25.

Frankly, the only bad thing about Funimation's Elite service is that their website sucks, and improvements have been promised for a while, but with no timetable. I'm hoping their Roku app works well enough that I can avoid it altogether.



I hear you but there is such a demand for Dub i don't see why CR would want there customers to look else where even if they charged a couple of bucks more x 500,000 members (gest-a mate). I would pay someone just to upload dubb on my site. Netfflix hasn't really added nothing just like you said. I've watched everythign on NF. But I will try funimations thanks.

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12 episodes on a single disc? That would be great if they released them like that in the states. Sometimes they only put two episodes on a single disc.

I didn't think 12 episodes could fit onto one blu-ray disc.


don't forget the useless filler in a lot of the popular anime also they series that play back 5min of the last episode. just milking that 23min a episode clock...lol

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I hear you but there is such a demand for Dub i don't see why CR would want there customers to look else where even if they charged a couple of bucks more x 500,000 members (gest-a mate).

I doubt CR has anything close to that many paying members. At the end of November 2011, TV Tokyo put the number of paid CR subscribers at just under 70,000:
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-11-30/tv-tokyo/crunchyroll-has-nearly-70000-paid-subscribers

I wouldn't be surprised if there were around 150,000 by now. Until and unless CR becomes a public company, however, we'll only know when someone inside CR or with inside information (like TV Tokyo, which became an investor in early 2010), leaks a number.

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I'm surprised CR is profitable with that many subscribers. They must make a majority of their revenue from the ads.

I wonder if CR only has to pay studios for views, or if they have to pay licensing fees even for shows that no one is watching on CR.

I also wonder if licensing fees for anime is much lower than non-anime shows. Netflix costs more than CR, has a multitude more subscribers, yet they are having a hard time being profitable recently and have lost a lot of content because they couldn't afford the new licensing fees.

I would be willing to invest in Crunchyroll if they ever went public and I hope that CR grows to be even just half the size of Netflix.





I would also like to add a new service coming out called Neon Alley. They will also be launching a PS3 app. However, from how their website describes the service it does not appear to be a VOD service like CR, Netflix, Hulu, or Funimation but rather a live 24/7 streaming channel like a regular cable or satellite channel. That means you have to watch the shows whenever they feel like airing them, which is a PITA IMO.

I wonder if you could hook up a DVR to the PS3 to record the Neon Alley shows?

Here is their site www.neonalley.com

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I'm surprised CR is profitable with that many subscribers. They must make a majority of their revenue from the ads.

I wonder if CR only has to pay studios for views, or if they have to pay licensing fees even for shows that no one is watching on CR.

I also wonder if licensing fees for anime is much lower than non-anime shows. Netflix costs more than CR, has a multitude more subscribers, yet they are having a hard time being profitable recently and have lost a lot of content because they couldn't afford the new licensing fees.

I would be willing to invest in Crunchyroll if they ever went public and I hope that CR grows to be even just half the size of Netflix.

Although a percentage of people like me pay once every 360 days, and therefore effectively pay only $5 per month, there are also those that pay for a full access membership at just under $10 per month, so going with an average of $7 per month for calculations is probably safe. Given that, premium memberships would bring in a gross revenue of close to half a million per month, even at the 70,000 subscriber level. According to what Funimation had stated in the past, ad-supported free streaming is barely above break-even.

Regarding how the licensing works, ANN had a three part series on that, and the third part covered streaming, although part 1 is highly relevant, as well.

Typically, licensing an anime has 3 component costs: The contract costs (the costs associated with negotiating the rights and paying legal fees associated with drawing up the contract), the minimum guarantee, and the royalties. The minimum guarantee is like the advance a publisher gives to a writer, except in this case, it is paid by the licensee (Crunchyroll) to the licensor (the publisher of the anime). One difference is that the licensee doesn't get any of that money back if the anime doesn't perform as well as expected. Royalties (no doubt based on the number of views in CR's case) kick in only if the anime performs past what was covered by the minimum guarantee.

The first two factors can quickly determine whether it is financially viable for CR to stream an anime to a specific region or country. Even if a company is willing to license an anime for that specific country or region, either the contract costs or minimum guarantee being too high can make it infeasible for CR to license it, simply because it would be a money losing proposition for them.




I would also like to add a new service coming out called Neon Alley. They will also be launching a PS3 app. However, from how their website describes the service it does not appear to be a VOD service like CR, Netflix, Hulu, or Funimation but rather a live 24/7 streaming channel like a regular cable or satellite channel. That means you have to watch the shows whenever they feel like airing them, which is a PITA IMO.

I wonder if you could hook up a DVR to the PS3 to record the Neon Alley shows?

I started a topic on Neon Alley in the Premium Members section of the forum. I'm not thrilled with the linear channel aspect, but I discussed some reasons there on why they likely decided to go that route.

As for recording the shows, unless they disabled the video going out via composite or component video (which would obviously create problems for people with CRT televisions or even older HDTV sets), I would expect so. As their service will support HD, the best DVR would be one that could record component video (as the HDMI output has HDCP). Units that attach to a computer are easy to find, while standalone models that accept HD component video input are harder to come by.

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Thanks again for the enormous amount of information. You answered all of my questions.

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I personally liked dubbed to subbed and wish we had a wider selection of dubbed seasons.
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I to personally like dubbed as long as it isn't awful over subbed. mostly cause i can watch it and work or play a game. most of the time while im watching i like to do other stuff so subbed doesn't work for me most of the time

ps thx TheAncientOne for the advice ill check out funimation and the anime network or CR could make it easy on me and get both jap and english if avalible i like the website easy of CR
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