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obama muslim???
Posted 9/2/10
Obama isn't Muslim, nor is he anything more than our beloved African-American figurehead. All his efforts thus far have proven effective and provoking people. As it is, the American mentality is pretty well fucked-up. Too few of us are leading healthy lives, and so then we have Obama wanting to change the way people live, when he himself is a smoker. I smell hypocrisy. In fact, I smell the hideous stench of urban decay. Even if the economy bounces back completely, who's to say everything will be alright beyond that? It could just get worse. Obama is only a small factor in this worldwide epidemic of apathy, since it is created by everyone's faults.
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KriGeRKranNe wrote:

"GET OVER IT!!!!" - shinto-male

As I said, that is impossible!

"religious tests for public office are forbidden by the constitution stop watching fox racist news channels and racist hate am radio" - shinto-male

I do not watch fox news, and I rarely listen to any radio-channel that does anything other than playing music! I am an American living abroad in Europe, and have done so for quite a few years! You have no idea about the level of Islamic infestation of the european continent, and the consequences this has brought to our daily life - the fact that Barack Hussein openly shows his support and respect to ISLAM is a slap in the face for the free world! Neither am I in any way refering to the need of a "religious test" for public offices... but it does become a big deal when a president candidate lies about something as important as his faith and conviction.... makes you wonder what else he'd be willing to lie about?

Also, I must point out that being Islam-critic in no way can be considered "racism"! Racism is the discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of another race! Since the ideology of ISLAM is a mindset shared by many of different races, back-grounds and upbringings, based on the teachings of the Warlord Muhammed centered around the moon god Allah (simply take a look at the islamic logo's around.... crescent.... must I say more?), this critism can never be considered racism in any way or form!

Anyhow, I have said what I believe must be said in this discussion, and will refrain from further comments on this subject, in this thread!

Enjoy

PS: I would love to see Obama visit a Church, hold a christian party (for instance an easter-banquet, to celebrate the resurrection of the jewish Jesus, whom the christian faith sees as the son of God (Jehovah Yahwe) (which he claims to serve), or for that matter commit to anything remotely christian.....!

Wasn't this in General discussion, how did this crept into Extended discussion. This is like one of those conspiracy theories. Why are we even wasting our time discussing this?

I didn't realize that being the President of the United States, one must be a Christian or prove he is one or whether it matters whatever religion he is or is not. Isn't the Constitution set up by the founding fathers pretty clear on the separation of church and state?

Well if he is a Muslim, he sure is a lousy one, some of his favourite food is pork and lets not forget the Crowley-Gate-Obama beer get-along, Muslims don't drink alcoholic drinks or that he has visiting Church all his live. I am not sure about this but I believe eating pork and drinking alcohol is forbidden for Muslims.

Also its pretty clear that you do watch Fox news or programs affiliated to Fox news because of your reference of the moon crescent as a Islamic symbol. No other news programs have use the Crescent symbol to attack Muslims.

Flag of S Carolina, secretly a Muslim state based on that crescent from what you said- -

Fox News insinuation of Crescent symbols = http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-april-14-2010/a-farewell-to-arms

PS: I worry for people who watch Fox news indeed. Do they have their thinking caps on or not. Blokes as far as Australia have openly mock Fox news in their comedy programs and since you are in Europe, you should take a look in their Uni courses, the example they used for media bias is Fox News.


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Obama is a muslim. Not only tht, I'm a Christian and he may be the anti-christ. There has been several interviews were he denies Jesus and say he's a muslim by "accident"


Wow I had to shake my head while reading this? ARE YOU REALLY A CHRISTIAN?
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Posted 9/2/10
Wow, some people really are messed up.
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popcornpuffs wrote:

Obama is a muslim. Not only tht, I'm a Christian and he may be the anti-christ. There has been several interviews were he denies Jesus and say he's a muslim by "accident"


What you are saying is kind of weird, allow me to explain it to you

If he is a Muslim wich you claim he is, he cannot deny the existance of jesus.
Why? Very easy, in the islam Abraham, Jezus, Muhammed and many many more prohpets are also prophets in the Islamic religion.
They all were prophets who where misinterpretated by us humas, except for their most important prophet Muhammed.
So when you say he is a muslim, and also claims he denie's the existante of jesus then you are contradicting yourself.

And the anti-christ? really.....
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Posted 9/3/10
True but ina interview Obama said Jesus is the only way FOR HIM. When it's suppose to be Jesus is the way to his father.
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I am not talking about the interview, I am talking about the claims you make.
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Posted 9/3/10

amersfoort wrote:


popcornpuffs wrote:

Obama is a muslim. Not only tht, I'm a Christian and he may be the anti-christ. There has been several interviews were he denies Jesus and say he's a muslim by "accident"


What you are saying is kind of weird, allow me to explain it to you

If he is a Muslim wich you claim he is, he cannot deny the existance of jesus.
Why? Very easy, in the islam Abraham, Jezus, Muhammed and many many more prohpets are also prophets in the Islamic religion.
They all were prophets who where misinterpretated by us humas, except for their most important prophet Muhammed.
So when you say he is a muslim, and also claims he denie's the existante of jesus then you are contradicting yourself.

And the anti-christ? really.....



popcornpuffs wrote:

True but ina interview Obama said Jesus is the only way FOR HIM. When it's suppose to be Jesus is the way to his father.


Wow talk about contradicting what you say and everything you say is laid bare in just this one topic.

Popcornpuffs, you just said Obama denies Jesus yet in your next statement you say that Obama say Jesus is the only way for him. Pretty contradictory, you really don't make sense.

Well you keep saying you are a Christian for most of your posts but from your posts and the wild topics that you have started, I am pretty sure right now that you are not.
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Posted 9/3/10
err..Just because he has a Muslim name doesn't really make him one,does it?
Like Shakespeare said "What's in a name?"
Besides even if he is one,does it matter?Or are people afraid he's gonna sprout a long beard,join the Taliban and hold the world hostage forcing them to convert?HAHA .The numerous question marks in this topic title makes it sound like being a muslim is a bad thing.
He can believe in which ever religion he likes..
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Posted 9/3/10
muslim or not, who gives a damn? you cant change anything about it, so there's no point in arguing about it.
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Posted 9/3/10
Who cares he a crappy president any way you cut it. He make Jimmy Carter look good and that I thought could never happen.
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Posted 9/4/10

tarakelly wrote:

Who cares he a crappy president any way you cut it. He make Jimmy Carter look good and that I thought could never happen.


He's only one year in office and people think that about him

Is that really fair? How much has he accomplished in one year, and how much could he accomplish in one year?

I don't think you opinion is formed on what he is doing but simply on the fact that you probably (I'm not sure) did not vote for him, and ofcourse you do not share the same ideology as him.
Perhaps if you would be a litle more milder with your opinion you could see that Obama is trying to do alot of good things.
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Obama has lied so many times so far and all the backroom deals. were the transparent he promised . Well both candidates were unfit in my book. So far he has blamed Bush the first two years in office he acting like a child not a president. Bush inherited the same problem and more he did not blame Clinton he just did he thing and took like a man. Socialized medicine has not worked any placed so far. FDR had good intentions look at the social security and medicare.There becoming insolvent this man has little to no understand that we are a RUPUBIC that as has the best economic engine in the world.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Laws like door lock are to keep honest people honest people honest the new laws will make impossible for honest people to make a living incorporate USA. both side of the house and senate are far more corrupt than wall street ever would be. Now these same crocks want to micromanage wall street. If you will notice nobody went to jail over the housing market if they dug to deep they implicate themselves in the housing failure. --------------------------------------------------- Please tell me what good things is he trying to do. so far the oil rig should have been shut down by the government inspectors before the accident, so many violation but BP had donated big money to the Democrats they let them slide. The word government worker is a oxymoron, public schools should be named Government schools with out choice there not much chance they will get better. Ideology that have not worked over seas and he following that fowling that just plain stupid.
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tarakelly wrote:

Obama has lied so many times so far and all the backroom deals. were the transparent he promised . Well both candidates were unfit in my book. So far he has blamed Bush the first two years in office he acting like a child not a president. Bush inherited the same problem and more he did not blame Clinton he just did he thing and took like a man. Socialized medicine has not worked any placed so far. FDR had good intentions look at the social security and medicare.There becoming insolvent this man has little to no understand that we are a RUPUBIC that as has the best economic engine in the world.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Laws like door lock are to keep honest people honest people honest the new laws will make impossible for honest people to make a living incorporate USA. both side of the house and senate are far more corrupt than wall street ever would be. Now these same crocks want to micromanage wall street. If you will notice nobody went to jail over the housing market if they dug to deep they implicate themselves in the housing failure. --------------------------------------------------- Please tell me what good things is he trying to do. so far the oil rig should have been shut down by the government inspectors before the accident, so many violation but BP had donated big money to the Democrats they let them slide. The word government worker is a oxymoron, public schools should be named Government schools with out choice there not much chance they will get better. Ideology that have not worked over seas and he following that fowling that just plain stupid.


Excuse me, Ideology that has not worked over seas?

I'll have you know that the percentage of happy people is highest in countries such as Denmark, Sweden and Norway, in fact almost all West-European countries score higher in their rates of happynss then the USA, this does not indicate a not-working Ideology.

FYI, people in Europe are also healthier then in the USA, why? Perhaps because of our ''socialized'' health care system?
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Look there are so many difference between the USA and Europe it is a joke to compare the two against each other. Look at the size of Europe and population. Look at the decline in in doctors in Europe and is still going down many have left to practice medicine in other counties. Those number where put together by the U.N. the word bias is a understatement.-------------------They eat less then we do they walk much more then us. Here most people can drive and far more have their own vehicles to get around. Going to the corner store is a 4 mile walk for me. I going to get in my old truck and drive there. As for fuel prices 7 to 8 dollars a gallon. I can buy a rib-eye steak for 7 to 8 dollars a pound that the price of ground chuck there. The doctors are closing up the office's from moving to different counties to just close up. Nobody talks about the shortage of doctors in Europe and it going to get far worse down the road. Do you know what three Muslim doctors can do together botch up a bonding. Dam three doctor and can't even put a bomb together that sad.-------------------------------------------------Go there live there see just how full of crap the UN is.-------------------------------------By the way happiness what is that judge on health, love, satisfaction with ones life, how do you determine this. If you by into the UN trash realize one thing It bite the hand that feeds them the US tax payer. I was stationed there for several years people talk about hate here we do not have that big of a problem as Europe dose. The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence until you get there.
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