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Look there are so many difference between the USA and Europe it is a joke to compare the two against each other. Look at the size of Europe and population. Look at the decline in in doctors in Europe and is still going down many have left to practice medicine in other counties. Those number where put together by the U.N. the word bias is a understatement.-------------------They eat less then we do they walk much more then us. Here most people can drive and far more have their own vehicles to get around. Going to the corner store is a 4 mile walk for me. I going to get in my old truck and drive there. As for fuel prices 7 to 8 dollars a gallon. I can buy a rib-eye steak for 7 to 8 dollars a pound that the price of ground chuck there. The doctors are closing up the office's from moving to different counties to just close up. Nobody talks about the shortage of doctors in Europe and it going to get far worse down the road. Do you know what three Muslim doctors can do together botch up a bonding. Dam three doctor and can't even put a bomb together that sad.-------------------------------------------------Go there live there see just how full of crap the UN is.-------------------------------------By the way happiness what is that judge on health, love, satisfaction with ones life, how do you determine this. If you by into the UN trash realize one thing It bite the hand that feeds them the US tax payer. I was stationed there for several years people talk about hate here we do not have that big of a problem as Europe dose. The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence until you get there.


Funfact, I live in the Netherland, and I shall let you know that I'm very happy with my life, not only that almost everyone around me is happy person.
Also good to know is that we do not have to take the car to the stores since they aren't 4 miles away from us, we do this thing called walking/cycling.
Grass looking greener you say?
The more I hear about the USA the lesser I want to go there, since the only things I hear from overseas is conservatism, religious nutjobs and paranoid people screaming everytime they hear anything islam related.
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I was stationed near central Germany and Amsterdam was good Greece the food was good the Soviet symbol painted on allot of walls though. the Germany's many of them called the middle east people sand Blank. But you would not have been born then. As for me i do not like any religion and at this point Islam is the top not dog for nut jobs. And Netherlands were the kangaroo courts system is and were Muslim get away with murder. But hey blow smoke up your on ass if that great to live there please by all mean do not come here if your a socialist. There still many Americans that believe in working hard for what you get. at least you do not have the Nazi flag over your heads any more but then you probably think that was a lie as well. We lost some of are young soldiers protecting muslim from christian i pretty sure you were around for that one. I am a libertarian open on social issue and tight on government to have guns is to make sure that our government dose not ride ruff shot on us. Just an average American keeping you safe from the Soviet union. My specialty was missile.
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I was stationed near central Germany and Amsterdam was good Greece the food was good the Soviet symbol painted on allot of walls though. the Germany's many of them called the middle east people sand Blank. But you would not have been born then. As for me i do not like any religion and at this point Islam is the top not dog for nut jobs. And Netherlands were the kangaroo courts system is and were Muslim get away with murder. But hey blow smoke up your on ass if that great to live there please by all mean do not come here if your a socialist. There still many Americans that believe in working hard for what you get. at least you do not have the Nazi flag over your heads any more but then you probably think that was a lie as well. We lost some of are young soldiers protecting muslim from christian i pretty sure you were around for that one. I am a libertarian open on social issue and tight on government to have guns is to make sure that our government dose not ride ruff shot on us. Just an average American keeping you safe from the Soviet union. My specialty was missile.


I'm sorry are we having a serious discussion or will you just say anything and present that anything like it's a truth and proof that a other system has failed?

You actually say that muslims get away with murder in the Netherlands, you know, sure I think that some people have gotten away with murder, but your saying it like the Dutch justice system is letting any Muslim go.
Please try to use some logic, socialist don't work hard? I'll have you know that with every job I had I worked my buttcheeks off.
And could you atleast be consistant, your hopping from subject to subject probably just to proove to yourself that your system is soooooo much better.

Again I'll say that the rate of happyness in countries such as Sweden, Denmark and Norway are much much higher then in your country,I do not see that as proof that their system failed.

Ohh and about that insane statement you made about the Nazi flag, I'll have you know my grandfather was locked in one of the German concentration camps, not only that but I STUDIED History, your insultive ways will not proove you any right at all.
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This topic was about Obama being a Muslim or not to me hes been a lying sack of BS from the start. I do not want nationalized health care quality goes down and future doctors diced to do something else other than medicine. I am not sure how i got side traced in the post about happiness value of a people.. Would it surprise me if Obama was a Muslim not at all. During his campaign for president he drop his middle name the swore into office with it. Now if you want we can talk about nationalized heath care on a different from and WW2 history and by the way I am only second generation American most my family is from Scotland.----------------------------------Ther is one thing it would have to have been your great grandfather put into a concentration camp. so make thing up as you go not cool.
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This topic was about Obama being a Muslim or not to me hes been a lying sack of BS from the start. I do not want nationalized health care quality goes down and future doctors diced to do something else other than medicine. I am not sure how i got side traced in the post about happiness value of a people.. Would it surprise me if Obama was a Muslim not at all. During his campaign for president he drop his middle name the swore into office with it. Now if you want we can talk about nationalized heath care on a different from and WW2 history and by the way I am only second generation American most my family is from Scotland.----------------------------------Ther is one thing it would have to have been your great grandfather put into a concentration camp. so make thing up as you go not cool.


Correct me if I am wrong, but are you claiming that I am a liar?
The reason this discussion went off topic is because you claimed that the overseas systems failed, in wich I replied that I did not agree with that and I proceeded with giving you evidence.
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No just went with math your grand father to be locked in a concentration camp would have been an infant no may survived. My grandfather die my father is 70 something my brother has an 18 your old boy. I just wounder if you meant grate grand father. i claimed hell I was station in a small town wackenheim spelling suck. Or headquarters was in baumholder. we go to north Germany to test fire antiaircraft weapon most the time I went to Greece to fire missile over the mediterranean sea. I was in the first infantry division and the 8th. it seem your kind of young most WW2 people are dying off from old age. Now remember you try to mislead me before even though i did not bite. there were something mentioned that clued me in that your were not American.-------------- Well the British are having a hard time of it and being 18 how many times have you seen a doctor i go only if i have too even with insurance most people here are that way to begin with.--------- Now I will argue the fact in this country counting part time worker and Illegal immigrant is a lye being told by the Obama administration. In a small countries might be able to pull it off. But paying half my wage to the government is silly in my book. larger country it not as simple as everyone think it going to be. I am unaware if Germany has done this. I also no for a fact many canadian snowbirds yous are doctors in the south. It easier for them to get treatment here. If I thought you were lying i have absolutely no problem calling some one out on it.
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you know. Tara... it says right there under the Avatar... The Netherlands. Also the name sounds Dutch. That's neither American, Greek, nor British. as for the age who knows. I'm the age of Generation X but my parents are the parents of Baby Boomers. Who knows what happened when. Hopefully Amersfoort's countrymen still have found memories of my country.
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No just went with math your grand father to be locked in a concentration camp would have been an infant no may survived. My grandfather die my father is 70 something my brother has an 18 your old boy. I just wounder if you meant grate grand father. i claimed hell I was station in a small town wackenheim spelling suck. Or headquarters was in baumholder. we go to north Germany to test fire antiaircraft weapon most the time I went to Greece to fire missile over the mediterranean sea. I was in the first infantry division and the 8th. it seem your kind of young most WW2 people are dying off from old age. Now remember you try to mislead me before even though i did not bite. there were something mentioned that clued me in that your were not American.-------------- Well the British are having a hard time of it and being 18 how many times have you seen a doctor i go only if i have too even with insurance most people here are that way to begin with.--------- Now I will argue the fact in this country counting part time worker and Illegal immigrant is a lye being told by the Obama administration. In a small countries might be able to pull it off. But paying half my wage to the government is silly in my book. larger country it not as simple as everyone think it going to be. I am unaware if Germany has done this. I also no for a fact many canadian snowbirds yous are doctors in the south. It easier for them to get treatment here. If I thought you were lying i have absolutely no problem calling some one out on it.
Yo grandma! Get with the damn program:

What may have grown in part as a cost-saving measure is quickly morphing into a talent recruitment and retention tactic. Nearly a third – 31 per cent – of executives globally identified flex working strategies as one of the top three talent management initiatives they plan to implement this year, according to a poll of 340 executives by Ernst &Young.

“We’ve definitely seen an increase in the number of firms interested in flexible work options,” said Ildi Wiley, president of Results Continuum Inc. an HR consultancy in Jordan, Ont. More organizations have a better sense of how flex policies can reduce today’s working pressures, from commuting time to work/life balance, and see their recruitment and retention potential, she added.

Flex options may be of particular appeal to younger workers, noted Daphne Woolf, managing partner at Collin Baer Group Ltd., a human resources consultancy in Toronto. “If you want to be an employer of choice, this is an increasingly high-profile item.”(citation)

Obama reiterated his support for the reform framework reached by Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., and Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., earlier this year that calls for a "tough but fair path forward" for undocumented immigrants, and mirrors a plan laid out by Gutierrez that now has more than 100 co-sponsors in the House.

The proposals would allow illegal immigrants who have jobs, are in school or serve in the U.S. military to "earn legalization" by registering with the government, passing background checks, learning English and paying taxes and fees

"Our nation has the right to control its borders and set laws for residency and citizenship," Obama said of the nation's 10.8 million undocumented immigrants. "And no matter how decent they are or their reasons for being here, they broke these laws and should be held accountable."

But, Obama acknowledged, the country needs to develop a reasonable solution to the problem.

"Americans are skeptical of amnesty but they're also skeptical of rounding up and deporting all these people," he said. Deporting all of them "would tear at the fabric of this nation because immigrants who are here illegally are already woven into that fabric." (citation)
Other than that, what is your ranting about has anything to do with Obama at all?
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Well he did kill the magnet schools in DC that a fact. . By the way flex program are full time position in most case's What is expected is a certain amount of work done not the time at the office. This year it was not during the election so stay with the facts at the time it hit the floor. You got to remember there a time line. if they let illegals in with out going through proper channels then any ya ho can just walk across the boarder. and people trying to use the legal system are being screwed over. But that just law the people in Washington tend to ignore law when votes are at hand. but an atheist like you self should realize if laws are not up held where the morality should we look at god for the answer.
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Well he did kill the magnet schools in DC that a fact. . By the way flex program are full time position in most case's What is expected is a certain amount of work done not the time at the office. This year it was not during the election so stay with the facts at the time it hit the floor. You got to remember there a time line. if they let illegals in with out going through proper channels then any ya ho can just walk across the boarder. and people trying to use the legal system are being screwed over. But that just law the people in Washington tend to ignore law when votes are at hand. but an atheist like you self should realize if laws are not up held where the morality should we look at god for the answer.
And your point is? As in how's any of your ranting relate to your opinions about Obama and Muslim?
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Well I could say the same thin to you what was your point. If Obama is a Muslim he lied so what else is new. His transparity police is a joke behind closed doors the again is he really in charge? Nothing Obama dose shock me at all. he drop his middle name in the campaign then when he took the oath of office he used it. Rating no he say one thing and dose another so far international he is an embarrassment to the US he treated England like a step child how has he treated Canada. If hold Muslim belief that how he is but is wife seem t run the books and and sitting in Revrand rights church i would say he a beget. i just can what untill his out of office thats all I care about.
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Well I could say the same thin to you what was your point. If Obama is a Muslim he lied so what else is new. His transparity police is a joke behind closed doors the again is he really in charge? Nothing Obama dose shock me at all. he drop his middle name in the campaign then when he took the oath of office he used it. Rating no he say one thing and dose another so far international he is an embarrassment to the US he treated England like a step child how has he treated Canada. If hold Muslim belief that how he is but is wife seem t run the books and and sitting in Revrand rights church i would say he a beget. i just can what untill his out of office thats all I care about.
That's the point, you got nothing to prove other than your rants. While you're just ranting your hatred on unrelated subjects of your unreasonable and irrational fear.

So get some professional help with your psyche.
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to be honest i don't know why we should care,if he is we should be able to get along better with some of the eastern countries and if he's not.....

your thoughts is he? and does it matter?

i think he is and good for him i guess


He isn't a Muslim.

So I don't care about it.
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Hmm, perhaps this is me that hasn't carefully read this thread, but is there any proof that Obama is a muslim?
I haven't seen anyone disprooving that Obama eats pork and does other stuff that is forbidden in the islam (I forgot who posted it but thank you very much )

So would someone please note some proof and post it in a orderly way on here, perhaps that will give more insight to everyone
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it will be a good thing if he is a Muslim.....
i hope he will be some day ........
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