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Everyone, what is your opinion towards Obama and this video?
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Posted 9/2/10 , edited 9/2/10
I'm a Christian btw. I don't go to church but meditate through the bible. Many Christian denomination have not been teaching the right stuff as to why I don't go to church. But Obama to me is a muslim, they have many videos on him denying Jesus by "accident" and he saying that he's a muslim and then correcting himself saying he's a "Christian" Even today's new you see him backing up that muslim worshipping place. I know theres Freedom of Religion, but look at him backing it up. And no damn muslim destroyed the the twin towers... idk why epople still believe it was a terrorist attack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5APcMSp1JIs
Posted 9/2/10
Obama backwards? Down right creepy!
Don't believe a word of this! Not to be taken serious!


Is what the information at the bottom of the video says, which obviously you've ignored.
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I'm sorry but I believe it. Even today's music industry is corrupted. You have Lady Gaga, Rihanna, Kanye, Jay-z and a whole lot of other celebrities doing a whole lot of blasphemous stuff in their video. Even their video carries subliminal messages. I believe that the main stream is controlled. Obama is not a American citizen, and he has not shown his birth certificate. All these world leaders are corrupted just as him.
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popcornpuffs wrote:

I'm a Christian btw. I don't go to church but meditate through the bible. Many Christian denomination have not been teaching the right stuff as to why I don't go to church. But Obama to me is a muslim, they have many videos on him denying Jesus by "accident" and he saying that he's a muslim and then correcting himself saying he's a "Christian" Even today's new you see him backing up that muslim worshipping place. I know theres Freedom of Religion, but look at him backing it up. And no damn muslim destroyed the the twin towers... idk why epople still believe it was a terrorist attack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5APcMSp1JIs


I am not sure how saying you are a Christian means your comments carry more weight than everyone else here or prove you are one for that matter. Still this warrants discussion.

Actually interestingly enough i have tested it out, my friends played 'Yes we can' and then we play it backwards. For me it sounded more like 'That is Saint' but for my friend it sounded more like 'Thank you Satan'.

I guess the point you are making is the word 'Satan' being heard backwards and I am pretty sure this is a fault of the English language. A lot of English words say backmask will sound like Satan and if your mind is already set on hearing that word, you are more likely to believe on hearing it. Indeed I can safely tell you that if you try reciting the phrases from the King James Bible which you claimed prior of holding, you find the word Satan popping out here and there.

The correct question is whether this backward message was intentional or by chance happen, I am pretty sure its not, after a lot of our military songs or phrases that we use have the words, yes, we can, does this mean that we are all Satanists?

PS: Try backmasking Popcornpuffs for some laughs.
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I do not Like Obama but this is trash. I knew what was before he went into office and nothing his done has shocked me. Is a arrogant ultra liberal that gives democrats a bad name. The unions have him on a short lease and the deals that went on before he even ran for president is enough to bury him. Nobody wanted or dug deep enough to find out what happened. Land deal on his house the work with acorn, is still buried and will not see day light, it would be an embarrassment to the free press if it did. When you get a free pass from the press it a get out of jail card.
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I do not Like Obama but this is trash. I knew what was before he went into office and nothing his done has shocked me. Is a arrogant ultra liberal that gives democrats a bad name. The unions have him on a short lease and the deals that went on before he even ran for president is enough to bury him. Nobody wanted or dug deep enough to find out what happened. Land deal on his house the work with acorn, is still buried and will not see day light, it would be an embarrassment to the free press if it did. When you get a free pass from the press it a get out of jail card.
Contradiction, unless you're even more of an ultra liberal than he is.
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No not really there are Democrats that are conservative on many issue, his so far out there he make a communist blush
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No not really there are Democrats that are conservative on many issue, his so far out there he make a communist blush
And still you claimed that he doesn't shock you, therefore you're even more of a communist than he is.
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No I was just far more informed then most on his past and so called limited dealings. I knew his agenda well before the election and Chicago politics is down and dirty you will not get far if they do not have dirt on you. Illinois has that kind of history behind it that one reason senators are voted in instead of appointment or local politician voting them in. This is a fundamental flaw with states rights a conflict with what best for the state is not tied to the country in many case's.
Posted 9/3/10

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No I was just far more informed then most on his past and so called limited dealings. I knew his agenda well before the election and Chicago politics is down and dirty you will not get far if they do not have dirt on you. Illinois has that kind of history behind it that one reason senators are voted in instead of appointment or local politician voting them in. This is a fundamental flaw with states rights a conflict with what best for the state is not tied to the country in many case's.
The only "illusion" here is your entitlement claims without sound logic nor proofs.
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Since the word Satan has been mentioned quite a few times I would love to explain what the word Satan means and how it i used in some of the oldest rligious documens available to us.

In the old Testament Satan is a word and not a name so you do no have to captalize the S, for example: a satan.
A satan was in the old testament a angel with the mission to ''test'' humans, for example the story about the happy an who had everthing and then god sent a satan to take everything away from the happy man to test his faith in god.

A satan was a type of angel, he was a servant of god, it was not a name it was a job.
Much more jobs like the one I used as a example have been done by god through his satans in the storys/document we read.

The name Satan shows up in later religious documents, why is this you ask?
Alot of theory's I guess but I'd like to name 2 of them, my personal favorites ofcourse.
First is a mistranslation, the word satan (ha-satan) means accuser in Hebrew, this is a very very old language and the Greeks have done a great job translating it but ofcourse mistakes have been made.

A second theory is actually also a bit of mistranslation, but also editing forpersonal preferences.
In a group such as a religion there is a ''us'' and a ''they'', everyone not in the ''us'' group is ''they'' and since ''us'' are good people because we believe what we believe the ''they'' must be bad people because they do not believe what we believe.
But since the group ''they'' is not really a group but has been labeled as a group by the ''us'' the ''they'' group lacks a leader.
In the ''us'' group I'm taking Catholicism as a example god and the pope are their leaders, because they are good, but in the bad group called the ''they'' they need leaders too, since they are no official group it is very attractive to give them a leader.
This has probably been done by monks in the early Dark ages, in those times monks were responsible for translating the hebrew/greek story's/documents into Latin and their main language (ranging from French, German etc etc).
Since a satan gave humans a hard time it's attractive to so a satan as a evil deity, and if you take away the A and make it Satan it becomes a nice super villain, and that's exactely what the bad group ''they'' needs as a leader.

Well I hope I have not offended anyone and I hope I haven't bored anyone to death, but most of all I hope you have learned something from my rambling
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Maybe you should find out why Illinois went to the popular vote.for senator. it was after a they caught a man bribing his way to a senate seat. Ramblings I do not think so Chicago a very strong Union city yes. Do some work there you will find out just how strong and wasteful the union are. Silly Rabbit
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Maybe you should find out why Illinois went to the popular vote.for senator. it was after a they caught a man bribing his way to a senate seat. Ramblings I do not think so Chicago a very strong Union city yes. Do some work there you will find out just how strong and wasteful the union are. Silly Rabbit
And your point is? As in what's you opinion about unions has anything to do with Obama's religious belief?
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The piece of trash shown is just that. I am pretty sure I made that clear. If he is a Muslim lying about it would not surprise me ether deception is part of the jihad and treaty have no meaning to them so lying under oath would mean nothing to a Muslim now would it. The is another form on his religion. This piece trash like playing a vinyl album back words to get meaning out of it stonier's used to that. in the 60 and 70's.
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Since the word Satan has been mentioned quite a few times I would love to explain what the word Satan means and how it i used in some of the oldest rligious documens available to us.

In the old Testament Satan is a word and not a name so you do no have to captalize the S, for example: a satan.
A satan was in the old testament a angel with the mission to ''test'' humans, for example the story about the happy an who had everthing and then god sent a satan to take everything away from the happy man to test his faith in god.

A satan was a type of angel, he was a servant of god, it was not a name it was a job.
Much more jobs like the one I used as a example have been done by god through his satans in the storys/document we read.

The name Satan shows up in later religious documents, why is this you ask?
Alot of theory's I guess but I'd like to name 2 of them, my personal favorites ofcourse.
First is a mistranslation, the word satan (ha-satan) means accuser in Hebrew, this is a very very old language and the Greeks have done a great job translating it but ofcourse mistakes have been made.

A second theory is actually also a bit of mistranslation, but also editing forpersonal preferences.
In a group such as a religion there is a ''us'' and a ''they'', everyone not in the ''us'' group is ''they'' and since ''us'' are good people because we believe what we believe the ''they'' must be bad people because they do not believe what we believe.
But since the group ''they'' is not really a group but has been labeled as a group by the ''us'' the ''they'' group lacks a leader.
In the ''us'' group I'm taking Catholicism as a example god and the pope are their leaders, because they are good, but in the bad group called the ''they'' they need leaders too, since they are no official group it is very attractive to give them a leader.
This has probably been done by monks in the early Dark ages, in those times monks were responsible for translating the hebrew/greek story's/documents into Latin and their main language (ranging from French, German etc etc).
Since a satan gave humans a hard time it's attractive to so a satan as a evil deity, and if you take away the A and make it Satan it becomes a nice super villain, and that's exactely what the bad group ''they'' needs as a leader.

Well I hope I have not offended anyone and I hope I haven't bored anyone to death, but most of all I hope you have learned something from my rambling


I was also given to understand that many of 'satan's' traditional anglo-european attributes (cloven hooves, horns on head etc.) were also attributes of one of the pagan deities of the Druids or druidic style beliefs of the local populace with whom early christian kings and other roman inspired proto-british were fighting. it's always been cool to call the beliefs of the other guy in a war, satanic.


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