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Filler episodes and why they are necessary
Posted 9/8/10 , edited 9/8/10

Rozzerdog wrote:


LosingOrbit wrote:

That doesn't change the fact that they're annoying.


Then why not act like a grownup and handle it in a mature fashion, instead of bickering like little school children?


If you've noticed, I'm only 17. You're asking too much of me. Also, I wasn't bickering, just stating the fact that they're annoying and rather not watch them.
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Posted 9/8/10 , edited 9/8/10
Ok i admit i am a one piece fan but i believe the fillers added was like less than 10% of the episodes following the original storyline. And the fillers are supervised by the mangaka, Oda. I believe it adds meaning to the anime which was not expressed in the manga. Katekyoushi Hitman Reborn also have fillers but I believe the arc on the Vongola Primo give as background info on the fight between the 2 families later on in the manga.

I agree the Bleach arcs were a bit meaningless; not entirely as it shows the almighty Ichigo saving the day again and also certain violation of the ethic uphold by Soul Society. This may somewhat give us a better background information on Soul Society.

For Naruto fillers, I started watching naruto quite late, so I totally skipped most of them. But I have to agreee that The few episodes I watched, was quite funny. Continuously watching 84 episodes would be rather irritating as I personally feel it does not really add value to the storyline.

Different viewers have different perspective towards the fillers they watched, so there is no right or wrong answer.

But I am really glad they did not abruptly end the anime like Ouran High School Host Club, with no plans of continuing it. That is really depressing. Adopting "broadcasting the anime in parts"(dunno what is it called) like Tegami Bachi would be a solution. But would TV Tokyo miss out a chance to air popular anime titles that generate advertising revenue for them. Even if the fillers are totally boring, being fans of these animes, there will definitely be viewers. Plus the fact that you are already assuming that everyone who watches Naruto have read the manga, thus viewers would find them totally out of place. Honestly-speaking, (i dunno if pple find me stupid ) I did not know the Bount Arc was a filler arc at all. I was just wondering what Aizen was doing during the meantime. That was until I started reading the manga. So I agree the transitions between fillers and the mainplot is quite badly linked in certain animes may have certain effect on the viewer.

In all, no matter how good/bad are the fillers and its transition, I still have to agree that we have to "accept the existance of fillers". Anyway there is always the manga to turn to for manga readers. Let's be more accepting of the anime we loved for years.haha
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Posted 9/8/10 , edited 9/8/10
I have watched every filler episode for all the popular shounen titles. Why? Because I know that no anime over 100+ isnt a great anime without the need for fillers. You cant have a straight up 100+ episode anime with nothing but pure story. I am able to enjoy fillers because they are a necessity.
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Posted 9/8/10
So the animes can go on and on and on and won't end. <3
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Posted 9/8/10
I personally don't mind fillers, i find them enjoyable if they can expand on characters or the world the the show is placed in.
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Posted 9/8/10

Rozzerdog wrote:

Greetings everyone, lately I have noticed that certain Anime titles have been broadcasting filler episodes and people in the comment section are always expressing almost identical complaints about their hatred of filler episodes. However, before I begin I too want to express that at times I find filler episodes to be a daunting exercise of patients to get through. So I am in no way sitting on my high horse and picking on others, because I too share some of their angst but only to a certain extent.

Throughout the decades when a Manga creator is fortunate enough to have their story become an Anime will usually run into a common problem that is universally shared.
When a Manga titled is selected to be animated the story itself can be anywhere from 100+ or 150+ chapters ahead. Those are not exact numbers but I’m sure everyone gets my point.

Depending on which animation company or the creator or other various factors usually has a set number of chapters of the Manga that will be used in creating one episode for the Anime. Sometimes they use one chapter which is extended to the best of the abilities while others might use two or three chapters. Throughout the years this will eventually be the pitfall which runs into the main reason for filler episodes, they run the risk of animating so many chapters that it will eventually start to catch up to where the story currently is in the Manga.

A perfect example of the need for filler episodes was towards the end of Naruto and the beginning of Naruto Shippuden. Close to 2 years and 84 filler episodes later, the gap had widened enough for them to start to air the beginning of part 2, Naruto Shippuden.
As for Bleach, after a year and 45+ episodes of filler the gap had also been wide enough for them to start the Arrancar arc.

There are just too many other anime titles for me to mention that all had to utilize either filler episodes or filler arcs to allow the Manga creator to advance the storyline.

Everyone agrees that filler episodes can be a nuisance but if you look at the bigger picture they are definitely the lesser of two evils that can become pitfalls for all of the anime titles we love. I am sure that everyone would prefer to have filler episodes than to have an anime title they love catch up to the story in the Manga only to have that anime show canceled. Besides, no one is forcing any of you to watch the filler episodes and all you have to do is simply not watch them. Show a little restraint and be mature enough to act your age and pick up where the filler episodes end and where the main storyline is back on track. Because I cannot think of anyone who would want that more than the creator(s) and animators who have to come up with all the filler episode storyline and filler character designs.

So in closing, this is why I believe that fillers are a necessary evil we must all deal with.


well said.
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Posted 9/8/10
Very good points. Personally, I think it depends on how they're done, there can be good ones and bad ones.

In my opinion, Tokyo Mew Mew had some good ones, because they turned the focus to the other characters rather then just Ichigo. (A relief since the manga was "Ichigo-fest") as for bad ones, Shugo Chara had some pretty bad ones, (the whole Party season) and it didn't help that 90% of the comments were from Ikuto fangirls screaming "BRING IKUTO BACK!!!!1!!1"

And I like what you said about using them so the creator can advance the storyline, which is exactly what they did with Sailor Moon. The first thirteen episodes of the second season were filler, but only so the creator could finish that story arc.

But I don't normally have this problem since I'm not into the "Big 3" anime, and have nothing to complain about.
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Posted 9/8/10

LosingOrbit wrote:


Rozzerdog wrote:


LosingOrbit wrote:

That doesn't change the fact that they're annoying.


Then why not act like a grownup and handle it in a mature fashion, instead of bickering like little school children?


If you've noticed, I'm only 17. You're asking too much of me. Also, I wasn't bickering, just stating the fact that they're annoying and rather not watch them.


I apologize if it appeared I was singling you out with my statement because that was not my intention. What I meant was the collective group of people who find some strange sense of joy, for lack of a better term, of sounding like a broken record of complaints about fillers and not adding anything new to the discussion of how annoying filler episodes can be.

I don't believe I was asking too much from you or anyone else for that matter, but if it sounded like I was then again, that was not my intention at all. Everyone has the right to speak their mind and their own personal opinions, but the point I was trying to get across is with the advent of websites like Crunchy Roll or horrid Fansub groups that take the most current episode straight from the television sets in Japan gives us no choice but to watch the filler episodes. Unless you exercise self control and decide NOT to watch the filler episodes then there wouldn't be such a fuss about them.

Before this new phenomenon of watching the most current episodes of any anime title you love watching, everyone in the states had to wait for it to become licensed and the released in DVD (or VHS depending on how old you are, haha) thus allowing you to watch the real, true story of the anime and just skip the filler episodes.

The real reason I typed this thread was because of the sheer volume of complaints about filler episodes reached a fever pitch with me, so I took it upon myself to try and educate anyone who wanted to learn why there are filler episodes in the first place. I had no intention of singling out anyone or to make any look or feel foolish, which is why I am apologizing now just in case someone does in fact feel like those were my intentions.
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Posted 9/8/10

ginnygin07 wrote:


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just remember no one makes you watch them


I agree to this....

Fillers once in a while are refreshing, atleast they are to me.


they are :]
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Posted 9/9/10
i don't see big deal of these
if the filler good in action or at last funny i see no huram in see it it kind of fancy fan fiction .

lots of filler about comedy and fanserves GOOD

and if you love the anime filler mean more of it
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Posted 9/10/10
Fillers are utterly waste of time, money and effort in the part of the animators... Shonen Jump should follow the example of 'Major" instead of wasting money on fillers that most people didn't even bother to watch it.
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Posted 9/10/10

uhohimdead wrote:

personally there should be some sort of anime law in japan stating that an anime adaptation cannot begin until the manga is completed

this way even if they decide on an additional arc the placement of the arc, character development, and events can all coincide with the manga


I understand where you're coming from, but you must understand that if you want a Manga series to be fully completed before it can become an Anime series then all your great TV Series like Bleach, Naruto would never have been seen to this day.

We wouldn't have Naruto or Bleach because they are still being serialized in Manga form and not complete.
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Posted 9/10/10

Maou068 wrote:

Fillers are utterly waste of time, money and effort in the part of the animators... Shonen Jump should follow the example of 'Major" instead of wasting money on fillers that most people didn't even bother to watch it.

If "most people" actually didn't watch them, ratings (and DVD sales if a DVD contained only filler episodes) would be dramatically lower, and they wouldn't produce them.

The reality is most people do watch them.

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Posted 9/10/10

cyberpunkstudio wrote:


uhohimdead wrote:

personally there should be some sort of anime law in japan stating that an anime adaptation cannot begin until the manga is completed

this way even if they decide on an additional arc the placement of the arc, character development, and events can all coincide with the manga


I understand where you're coming from, but you must understand that if you want a Manga series to be fully completed before it can become an Anime series then all your great TV Series like Bleach, Naruto would never have been seen to this day.

We wouldn't have Naruto or Bleach because they are still being serialized in Manga form and not complete.


is that really so bad? all the filler of naruto reduced to a much more concise length no mid story arcs in bleach etc
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Posted 9/10/10
Yes it would be bad. In fact its a horrible idea. A ton of the anime which is out right now...and I mean A TON, wouldnt even be out. That would be a hardcore blow to the anime community. Imagine the big 4 shounen titles not even existing right now.............yea it would be pretty scary.
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