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What ever happened to morals and waiting until marriage?
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Posted 9/9/10 , edited 9/9/10

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Seriously people, what the heck? Nowadays, I see people talking about having sex with their bf/gf or not even with their gf/bf with random friends or people, like it's nothing. Sex is supposed to be special, and you are only supposed to give your virginity to your husband or wife. And don't give me that BS about moral relativism. No offense, but I think that society has become too liberal. I mean, sex is glamorized in the media which gives the wrong message to children. Deep down in your heart, do you honestly think a twelve year old girl having sex is okay? It's getting ridiculous. Anyone else agree with me? The media is like encouraging children and teens to be promiscuous. It's nasty.

Girls saying that their role model is Beyonce or Lady Gaga...Like stfu!Shoot.. My only role model and idol will forever be Jesus Christ! He keeps it too Real and when he keeps it too real people tend to just hate!


Jesus fucking christ. Yes it's society and media. That's all there is to it. If you chucked those out of the window then most kids would grow up fine with morals and all that crap, but it doesn't work that way so too bad suck it up and deal with it. And Christ. Keeping it real by reincarnating....

But seriously leave them alone. If they want to do that crap let them. It's none of your buisness and so you shouldn't be getting involved.

This thread is going to derail into hell sometime soon as it involves popcorn. That's all I'm going to say.
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Well I do fantasize and wish that my partner will be a virgin. But Im pretty damn sure that people like me who MAY find a girl....she probably has already lost her virginity so....its to be expected.

I too would want my first time to be with the one I lust for.......but then again.....I might be just saying that since I wasnt one of the super popular kids in school....so I cant really be sure.....but I think I would still not wanna have sex at random.

I wouldnt be surprised if there was a Correlation between Successful people in life and people who have their first time with their spouses.
Posted 9/9/10

CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:

..................nothing really no girl wants to go out with me and i have tried my best at that so i just gave up on going out with at girl/having sex screw it.


Better learn to be a bad boy with a good side that doesn't kiss anyone's ass. Simple.

Or you can lay there and die. You decide, sir.
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Ok, time for Mr. Outside-the-box-thinker to turn a thread in crunchyroll on it's head once again.

I'm not gonna get into the religous aspects of this issue, because religion is not one of my strong points. (look don't ask me what my religion is)

But I will get into the moral issue of sex before marrige. I completely respect the idea of sex before marrige. Read some of the great stories, watch some cartoons or anime, whatever...involving love and marrige, how they tell you that the cuple has their child after marrying. That alone should tell you that it is indeed special.

However, I am also a sexual libertarian on one thing, and that's I don't care what you do sexually in your own home as an adult, as long as it never ever involves children. You wanna have sex with one or two people, fine.

But don't ever force it down everyone's throats, or force it into everything we watch, read, or play...as it's been done in recent years. This is why girls as young as 13 are told it's okay to be "easy" and to be treated like objects. Thus, they act in such a way. Let's not forget my gender too, who are told to act like pimps and just see women as tools to be used in a one night stand. And it's normalized by perverts in the mainstream media and hollywood. Look at the way most females dress now, not to mention where certain...um...rings and tattos are placed. If this isn't sexually suggestive to you, then you tell me what it is. Hott? You really think that's hott? You're a sick bastard. I would never want a female with (for example) some metal ring sticking out in that area that babies come out of. I've seen it with my own eyes.

More often than not, this is allowed to happen because of lazy ass parents who just want their child to be "relevant" rather than be disciplined in a lesson about sexual intercourse!! "Ohhh virginity is evil, you can never be a real man or real woman if you don't have sex". I know you've heard something to the tune of this in your life...come on...admit it. Don't lie. That's a bunch of BS. If you're a virgin...fine...I respect your decision to wait til marrige.

But unlike me and very few of us out there who actually understand the concept of intercourse and the responsiblities that go with it, the psychonuts will call you "gay" or you're not a real "man/woman", and you need to get some "booty" to be accepted in their messed up illogical minds. That's why we have more babies born out of wedlock than we ever had today. That's why there are more single moms who were knocked up by cowardly fathers who just wanted a "good time" that night. Trust me, I'm the uncle of one of them.

Also, because of the over-forcing of sex, you're told to be in heat 24/7. You're not a damn animal. You don't go out with someone to have sex with them. You go out with that person because you love them. You stick with them...through good and bad times. Sex is an option, not a neccesity. Guys just because she's got a nice chest doesn't mean she's just something to have sex with. Ladies, just because the dude has nice...um...(i'll let you fill out the rest here), doesn't mean he's just good for one night of fucking. If I'm gonna have sex with a female, it's gonna be with the same female that I will be with for the rest of my life (granted we stay together that long).

Oh, and I don't do one night stands. I don't even suggest sex to a female, because I leave it up to her. It's an option, as I said.

Look, do I look at women...yes. Do I look at their chest or her ass, well...yes. It's natural to look at those things...but do it with respect. Not lust.

To bottom line on this, thanks to the psychonuts in the media and other forms of content....waiting til marrige is being wiped away on a daly basis. It's time to reinforce that into society. And one more thing, whether or not anyone is or isn't a virgin is none of my or your damn business!!!

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Marriage is a derivation of bondage, from the early era of human barbarity, long before the man you folks worship as a deity was born and died. All morals are social morals and exist only as the society they pertain to, exist. At one time, it was morally acceptable to bash in children's brains.

Psalm 137:8-9, "O daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be, that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us. Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones."

As societies change so do their morals. The explicitly violent barbarity of the Israelite Old Testament, gave way to ideals of absolute justice and truth. These everlasting ideals were plagiarized wholesale from another religion, Zoroastrianism, the first historical monotheistic religion (the first commandment is quite clear; there are other gods, but Jews should only worship the Jewish God).

Today, gays are vilified in certain quarters (contemporary religious moralists). Before Europeans set foot on North American, native Amerinds accepted as fact that there were three or even four genders (including men who were women, and women who were men). And in the Middle Ages of Europe even the Catholic Church was known to have married men (in France called affrèrement).

Furthermore priests were allowed to have wives and concubines and sally forth into battle to rain down holy slaughter on their enemies.

In early US history, huge crowds would gather to witness bloody executions. Whole entire Christian towns, men, and women, would gather for a lynching. Actually, both of these moral practices, only recently died down (historically speaking), and the activities of certain right wingers are trying to bring back the "good old morals".


[Old time moralism shows its true colors]

Before the development and exploitation of landed wealth, and it's theft from women by men, (yes, women original controlled the land, while men hunted), women were their own persons. A man entered a women's home to become her husband. Her brother had more responsibility over her children then her husband. A divorce was announced, when the husband found his clothes cast out of the house, and he had to skulk back to his parents home amid jeers. Matrilineality preceded patrilineality. This is still the case of some cultures today, including the Mosuo of China.

It was theft of landed wealth and the subjugation of women that has developed into the 'sacrosanct' institution of marriage. The wedding ring is but a relic from the time when women were sold in chain links from fathers to husbands as a contract pact that included an exchange of wealth to guarantee protection, security, fealty, etc...

The term family is derived from the Latin word "famalus" or servant. The family, or "servants of a household," included all the slaves, women and children of a Patriarch. In Ancient Rome, Greece, Judea et alii, the patriarch was law. No state force could enter a man's house to save his wife from death, if he so chose to end her life.

Morals come and go with the wind of social change. And social change is a constant of human existence.
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CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:

..................nothing really no girl wants to go out with me and i have tried my best at that so i just gave up on going out with at girl/having sex screw it.


You will get laid if you act like a asshole or act like you don't give a fuck, just saying ...


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popcornpuffs wrote:

Seriously people, what the heck? Nowadays, I see people talking about having sex with their bf/gf or not even with their gf/bf with random friends or people, like it's nothing. Sex is supposed to be special, and you are only supposed to give your virginity to your husband or wife. And don't give me that BS about moral relativism. No offense, but I think that society has become too liberal. I mean, sex is glamorized in the media which gives the wrong message to children. Deep down in your heart, do you honestly think a twelve year old girl having sex is okay? It's getting ridiculous. Anyone else agree with me? The media is like encouraging children and teens to be promiscuous. It's nasty.

Girls saying that their role model is Beyonce or Lady Gaga...Like stfu!Shoot.. My only role model and idol will forever be Jesus Christ! He keeps it too Real and when he keeps it too real people tend to just hate!


Nah I don't agree.
Who says you must keep your virginity till marriage?
Maybe it is just me but when/if I decide to get married, I'd rather have tested it beforehand. Sexual compatibility is important

Morality is subjective, If you don't like it. Don't do it! Simple.

Nothing wrong with the liberalisation of sex ... infact it should increase ....
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Fadadio wrote:


CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:


Fadadio wrote:


Baka-God wrote:

Weren't that guy and Maria Fucking in a Shack with sheep? Wasn't Jesus born in there? Is that not Immoral too, Mrs I dunno?
what are you talking about



mary and joseph, jesus parents.
ah I see, he worded it so poorly that I barely understood it. well that was offensive and downright Wrong.go spew your lies somewhere else Bakagod



Excuse me sir?

Here in the Netherlands she's called Maria and Josep, so how could I know that they were called Mary and the guy Joseph in English when I'm not even interested in it?

Also, they did have sex in a shack with sheep. Jesus was born there so what was worded wrong again?
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Marriage is a derivation of bondage, from the early era of human barbarity, long before the man you folks worship as a deity was born and died. All morals are social morals and exist only as the society they pertain to, exist. At one time, it was morally acceptable to bash in children's brains.

Psalm 137:8-9, "O daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be, that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us. Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones."

As societies change so do their morals. The explicitly violent barbarity of the Israelite Old Testament, gave way to ideals of absolute justice and truth. These everlasting ideals were plagiarized wholesale from another religion, Zoroastrianism, the first historical monotheistic religion (the first commandment is quite clear; there are other gods, but Jews should only worship the Jewish God).

Today, gays are vilified in certain quarters (contemporary religious moralists). Before Europeans set foot on North American, native Amerinds accepted as fact that there were three or even four genders (including men who were women, and women who were men). And in the Middle Ages of Europe even the Catholic Church was known to have married men (in France called affrèrement).

Furthermore priests were allowed to have wives and concubines and sally forth into battle to rain down holy slaughter on their enemies.

In early US history, huge crowds would gather to witness bloody executions. Whole entire Christian towns, men, and women, would gather for a lynching. Actually, both of these moral practices, only recently died down (historically speaking), and the activities of certain right wingers are trying to bring back the "good old morals".


[Old time moralism shows its true colors]

Before the development and exploitation of landed wealth, and it's theft from women by men, (yes, women original controlled the land, while men hunted), women were their own persons. A man entered a women's home to become her husband. Her brother had more responsibility over her children then her husband. A divorce was announced, when the husband found his clothes cast out of the house, and he had to skulk back to his parents home amid jeers. Matrilineality preceded patrilineality. This is still the case of some cultures today, including the Mosuo of China.

It was theft of landed wealth and the subjugation of women that has developed into the 'sacrosanct' institution of marriage. The wedding ring is but a relic from the time when women were sold in chain links from fathers to husbands as a contract pact that included an exchange of wealth to guarantee protection, security, fealty, etc...

The term family is derived from the Latin word "famalus" or servant. The family, or "servants of a household," included all the slaves, women and children of a Patriarch. In Ancient Rome, Greece, Judea et alii, the patriarch was law. No state force could enter a man's house to save his wife from death, if he so chose to end her life.

Morals come and go with the wind of social change. And social change is a constant of human existence.


That is true. Wish more people realize morals change quite often. It's nice some people know about history. I admit I'm not a history buff but I do know a decent amount. Also some of the distorted crap they teach in public schools history sickens me.
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Too stereotypical. You whine about that shit as if everyone worships Sir Gaga except you and your co-nuns.
You ought to consider that not everyone thinks the way you do.
Not everyone is raised with the same religion or w/e beliefs.
The 12-year-old sluts will fuck as they damn please and you still can't do anything about it, because it's their life, not yours.


I totally agree with this post and therefor give you a cookie. Took the words right out of my mouth.
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Baka-God wrote:

Weren't that guy and Maria Fucking in a Shack with sheep? Wasn't Jesus born in there? Is that not Immoral too, Mrs I dunno?


That was just corny a.k.a lame. You're just a cornball seriously go eat your Corn Pops, Corn bread, Corn, anything that starts with corn just eat because you are just a cornball.


No, it's not corny, it was a mere question. And where's my answer, Mrs puffcornpuffs.
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popcornpuffs wrote:


Phyzjob wrote:


Too stereotypical. You whine about that shit as if everyone worships Lady Gaga except you and your co-nuns.
You ought to consider that not everyone thinks the way you do.
Not everyone is raised with the same religion or w/e beliefs.
The 12-year-old sluts will fuck as they damn please and you still can't do anything about it, because it's their life, not yours.


Why are you getting offensive? I don't worship Lady Gaga, where in my post did I say I worship Lady Gaga?!!!! are you retarted? People these days. I only said Jesus Christ is my idol, and you get offended. WTH, is wrong with you? For all you know I could have been sarcastic, but no I was being honest. So speak what you know you damn mofo


LOL whut?
Would you please re-read my post before baffling crap.
I said: You think everyone worships Lady Gaga except you and your co-nuns.
I never said you worship her or anything like that.

Yes, I am a fucktard, and sometimes, it makes me wonder why retards can actually use their brain more compared to sane people. :mellow:

Anyway, I'm not planning to have a quibble with you about this forever.
I was not offended, I merely stated the fact that seems not to enter your narrow mind.
Now, if you insist about your obsession with that Jew named Jesus Christ, then that's the least of my concern.
Want you to know that I'm not replying on your stupid posts anymore which started merely because you didn't know the meaning of the word except. Arguing with a bible freak leads to empty spoiler pyramids, so yeah, I'd have to ignore your posts from now on.

Have a nice day, nun. May your poor belief lead you somewhere.



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See.... posts like these make me wish my girlfriend wasn't a christian. You can keep believing your zombie robot ninja magical genie from neverland, but keep your shit away from people with intellegence.
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Phyzjob wrote:


Too stereotypical. You whine about that shit as if everyone worships Lady Gaga except you and your co-nuns.
You ought to consider that not everyone thinks the way you do.
Not everyone is raised with the same religion or w/e beliefs.
The 12-year-old sluts will fuck as they damn please and you still can't do anything about it, because it's their life, not yours.


Take it from someone who tried to have a discussion on religion with the thread starter. (Not knowing she doesn't bother with logic.) Actually did it over guestbook, so you can see what a rational guy like myself was up against with this particular bible thumper. I wont even point it out, as it's right there in guestbook convo. Everyone is welcome to draw their own conclusion.
Don't try reason, wont work. Don't bother with facts, she will just start quoting scripture as a response. All you'll get is nonsense hidden by a very very thin veil of pretend intellectualism.


Thanks for the advice.
I almost tried.
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See.... posts like these make me wish my girlfriend wasn't a christian. You can keep believing your zombie robot ninja magical genie from neverland, but keep your shit away from people with intellegence.
FLAMING INBOUND


Your post made me spray half of my brew on my screen, but it was completely worth it.

5 points to you sir!
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