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Is Europe turning against the Islam?
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Posted 9/12/10
Well is it?

I'm starting to think this is happening, my own country has a anti-islam party wich is pretty big, I've heard the same about Belgium and France and now even Germany has started a anti-islam party.

And again (just like in my country) the party calls itself a freedom-party, even thoo it's goal is to make it almost impossible for Muslims to build mosque's and wear their (I don't know what it's called in english, but the things on the head).

Infact I'm starting to think that the USA shows more tolerance against the Islam then Europe.

What are your thoughts about this?
Posted 9/12/10
The whole world seems to be, and destroying Islam isn't going to help anything. If you want to eradicate a faith, you may as well do away with all of them. This shit will never end.
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amersfoort wrote:

Well is it?

I'm starting to think this is happening, my own country has a anti-islam party wich is pretty big, I've heard the same about Belgium and France and now even Germany has started a anti-islam party.

And again (just like in my country) the party calls itself a freedom-party, even thoo it's goal is to make it almost impossible for Muslims to build mosque's and wear their (I don't know what it's called in english, but the things on the head).

Infact I'm starting to think that the USA shows more tolerance against the Islam then Europe.

What are your thoughts about this?


People are stupid and self centred but I also think it's a natural consequence of events. When a religion can cause you to get murdered just because a countryman you probably don't even know posted an offensive cartoon about it... It's hard to fair minded.

In another thread one pro-muslim poster gloated that Islam was taking over Europe, Demographics in action. I'm sure there are people who fear just that.

In Canada a political columnist said that since Islamic cultures are still having lots of children and western cultures are not, that this sort of takeover was a real and valid threat to the percieved culture of these countries. His magasine was nearly stifled for it. Thanks to a complaint to our Human Rights Commission that he was spreading hate. But -that- is a whole other story.

Understand.. for some people, peaceful or not (and as I have said before the NOT is loud, populous and apparantly unconstrained by the peaceful) Islam is a threat to their values and culture. Because it is truly a growing and moving force.



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Nah.

Those bigots have always been against Muslims. But the laws and politician establishments across Europe? Nah. Wishful thinking.
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Well I pretty blunt about but Islam is not just a religion it a from of government as well. Send packing but and make sure they never get there hand on nukes they will use them. Action speak louder then there talking dose they do not want peace unless it there kind of peace.
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tarakelly wrote:

Well I pretty blunt about but Islam is not just a religion it a from of government as well. Send packing but and make sure they never get there hand on nukes they will use them. Action speak louder then there talking dose they do not want peace unless it there kind of peace.


Crudely put but I think I understand. With your permission I'll translate?

Tarakelly is objecting to the kind of Islam that we most often see practiced today, the loud, belligerent, uncompromising Islam that runs theocracies and openly welcomes terrorist bombers home as heroes. For all the words of peace she hears about Islam, the actions in the middle east and elsewhere seem to indicate a violent approach and an unwillingness to compromise. Sufficient numbers of followers of Islam claim to believe in peace and Justice but only as codes for "My side wins"

Tara is that about what you wanted to express? Everyone else is that more clear?

(edited for spelling and grammar.)




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Thank you very much papagolfwhiskey your the man.
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papagolfwhiskey wrote:


amersfoort wrote:

Well is it?

I'm starting to think this is happening, my own country has a anti-islam party wich is pretty big, I've heard the same about Belgium and France and now even Germany has started a anti-islam party.

And again (just like in my country) the party calls itself a freedom-party, even thoo it's goal is to make it almost impossible for Muslims to build mosque's and wear their (I don't know what it's called in english, but the things on the head).

Infact I'm starting to think that the USA shows more tolerance against the Islam then Europe.

What are your thoughts about this?


People are stupid and self centred but I also think it's a natural consequence of events. When a religion can cause you to get murdered just because a countryman you probably don't even know posted an offensive cartoon about it... It's hard to fair minded.

In another thread one pro-muslim poster gloated that Islam was taking over Europe, Demographics in action. I'm sure there are people who fear just that.

In Canada a political columnist said that since Islamic cultures are still having lots of children and western cultures are not, that this sort of takeover was a real and valid threat to the percieved culture of these countries. His magasine was nearly stifled for it. Thanks to a complaint to our Human Rights Commission that he was spreading hate. But -that- is a whole other story.

Understand.. for some people, peaceful or not (and as I have said before the NOT is loud, populous and apparantly unconstrained by the peaceful) Islam is a threat to their values and culture. Because it is truly a growing and moving force.



Do I sense a global scale purging coming ?
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Posted 9/12/10 , edited 9/12/10

Allhailodin wrote:


Do I sense a global scale purging coming ?


I'm certainly not advocating one. I'm willing to bet Drizza will say that's the goal already of western media and power elite. and honestly I wouldn't be surprised if the right elements move at the right time to start one.

On the other hand, I honestly fear we are staring down the barrel of a the beginnings of a Global Jihad.

(edited for a missing word and to make a name a user link)




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Don't terrorists realize that their terrorism is getting nowhere but gaining more hate towards their religion? pretty stupid if u ask me
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Don't terrorists realize that their terrorism is getting nowhere but gaining more hate towards their religion? pretty stupid if u ask me


They don't see themselves as Terrorists. If anything, through their eyes it's the world of infidels with their tanks and cluster bombs and economic might that are the bullies. They see themselves as freedom fighters as crusaders for the true faith. as for hate. they don't care about your hate, you're an infidel in fact they probably think something very much along the lines of:

"Let them hate, so long as they FEAR"


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LemonyPanda wrote:

Don't terrorists realize that their terrorism is getting nowhere but gaining more hate towards their religion? pretty stupid if u ask me


Terrorists aren't known for logic. It's fear they are after and if one gives it to them. They win.
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Narcissistic wrote:


LemonyPanda wrote:

Don't terrorists realize that their terrorism is getting nowhere but gaining more hate towards their religion? pretty stupid if u ask me


Terrorists aren't known for logic. It's fear they are after and if one gives it to them. They win.


My EXACT point in the "What to do Today" thread.

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papagolfwhiskey wrote:


Narcissistic wrote:


LemonyPanda wrote:

Don't terrorists realize that their terrorism is getting nowhere but gaining more hate towards their religion? pretty stupid if u ask me


Terrorists aren't known for logic. It's fear they are after and if one gives it to them. They win.


My EXACT point in the "What to do Today" thread.



Indeed. Well, you were right and I was silently agreeing with you in that thread.

I remember when the 7/7 bombings happened in London, the response by the British. It made me very proud. We didn't give in to what the terrorists wanted.
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Narcissistic wrote:


papagolfwhiskey wrote:


Narcissistic wrote:


LemonyPanda wrote:

Don't terrorists realize that their terrorism is getting nowhere but gaining more hate towards their religion? pretty stupid if u ask me


Terrorists aren't known for logic. It's fear they are after and if one gives it to them. They win.


My EXACT point in the "What to do Today" thread.



Indeed. Well, you were right and I was silently agreeing with you in that thread.

I remember when the 7/7 bombings happened in London, the response by the British. It made me very proud. We didn't give in to what the terrorists wanted.


I referenced that: Two fingers upthrust. "Jog On!"

Made me proud to share a Head of State with you. Up the Commonwealth!



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