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Is Europe turning against the Islam?
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Posted 9/12/10 , edited 9/12/10

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Indeed. Well, you were right and I was silently agreeing with you in that thread.

I remember when the 7/7 bombings happened in London, the response by the British. It made me very proud. We didn't give in to what the terrorists wanted.


I referenced that: Two fingers upthrust. "Jog On!"

Made me proud to share a Head of State with you. Up the Commonwealth!


It's what the British do best.

For Queen and country!

I love our Queen and commonwealth members
I'll be in a state of mourning when Charles takes over
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papagolfwhiskey wrote:


Narcissistic wrote:
Indeed. Well, you were right and I was silently agreeing with you in that thread.

I remember when the 7/7 bombings happened in London, the response by the British. It made me very proud. We didn't give in to what the terrorists wanted.


I referenced that: Two fingers upthrust. "Jog On!"

Made me proud to share a Head of State with you. Up the Commonwealth!


It's what the British do best.

For Queen and country!

I love our Queen and commonwealth members
I'll be in a state of mourning when Charles takes over


we can't skip him and go straight to William? but yeah I know what you mean. I've been singing God save the Queen since birth. Changing it to God save the King will seem odd. when she dies a great one will have fallen.


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papagolfwhiskey we can't skip him and go straight to William? but yeah I know what you mean. I've been singing God save the Queen since birth. Changing it to God save the King will seem odd. when she dies a great one will have fallen.


The only way it can skip Charles is if he willingly abdicates (and he has said many times he has no such intentions)

Sure, he may be the most well prepared heir to the throne the crown has ever had but he has the history/Diana and ofc ... the crocodile he married. Camilla.
Who will be automatically crowned Queen if Charles takes the throne, don't think the Commonwealth or British will be happy with her new title

I just wouldn't sing it, I'm gutted we're not going to have a 'Queen' for generations unless William pops out a daughter.
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Do I sense a global scale purging coming ?


I'm certainly not advocating one. I'm willing to bet Drizza will say that's the goal already of western media and power elite. and honestly I wouldn't be surprised if the right elements move at the right time to start one.

On the other hand, I honestly fear we are staring down the barrel of a the beginnings of a Global Jihad.

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Well what else can you do, there is no peaceful solution to this.

The only thing that these types of people understand is raw power. You have to show them raw overwhelming force / power or there is no end to if.
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if by 'these people' you mean the x-percentage of Muslims who make the rest look bad. yes.
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papagolfwhiskey we can't skip him and go straight to William? but yeah I know what you mean. I've been singing God save the Queen since birth. Changing it to God save the King will seem odd. when she dies a great one will have fallen.


The only way it can skip Charles is if he willingly abdicates (and he has said many times he has no such intentions)

Sure, he may be the most well prepared heir to the throne the crown has ever had but he has the history/Diana and ofc ... the crocodile he married. Camilla.
Who will be automatically crowned Queen if Charles takes the throne, don't think the Commonwealth or British will be happy with her new title

I just wouldn't sing it, I'm gutted we're not going to have a 'Queen' for generations unless William pops out a daughter.


Crosses fingers and secretly pokes holes in all his condoms?


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papagolfwhiskey wrote:Crosses fingers and secretly pokes holes in all his condoms?


How did you know I was doing that?!

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papagolfwhiskey wrote:Crosses fingers and secretly pokes holes in all his condoms?


How did you know I was doing that?!



I have mystic mind powers. I can even cut guns in half with only my thoughts.

Posted 9/13/10 , edited 9/13/10

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Tarakelly is objecting to the kind of Islam that we most often see practiced today, the loud, belligerent, uncompromising Islam that runs theocracies and openly welcomes terrorist bombers home as heroes. For all the words of peace she hears about Islam, the actions in the middle east and elsewhere seem to indicate a violent approach and an unwillingness to compromise. Sufficient numbers of followers of Islam claim to believe in peace and Justice but only as codes for "My side wins"

Tara is that about what you wanted to express? Everyone else is that more clear?

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Frankly, I find it unfair that you would state something like that when your only source of information is the media and the internet. I would call it quite biased, in fact. "loud", "belligerent" and "uncompromising" are not words you use to describe a religion, they're words to describe a person's personality, a mere opinion, and are not objective. It is also very presumptuous of you to speak for an entire group of people. As a Muslim, i've always favored the psychological approach towards religion and am looking into an islamic branch of mysticism, called Sufism, so I cannot speak for other muslims, as the majority of muslims are Sunni (even then, Sunni divides into many Schools of Law, or Schools of thought). There are many different individuals within Islam, of different nations and whether they are of a violent nature or not is purely an environmental factor, not something that can be blamed on religion.
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Frankly, I find it unfair that you would state something like that when your only source of information is the media and the internet. I would call it quite biased, in fact. "loud", "belligerent" and "uncompromising" are not words you use to describe a religion, they're words to describe a person's personality, a mere opinion, and are not subjective. It is also very presumptuous of you to speak for an entire group of people. As a Muslim, i've always favored the psychological approach towards religion and am looking into an islamic branch of mysticism, called Sufism, so I cannot speak for other muslims, as the majority of muslims are Sunni (even then, Sunni divides into many Schools of Law, or Schools of thought). There are many different individuals within Islam, of different nations and whether they are of a violent nature or not is purely an environmental factor, not something that can be blamed on religion.
Interesting analysis, in a sense that I do find the Islamic religious authorities of the Shi'a Muslims tend to have those said personality traits, IMHO.

What I do find unsettling however, is the Shi'a's teaching of Islamic justification on slavery via dualism. What's your thought about my analysis here? Please read the spoilers for further analysis of my reasoning.
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Posted 9/13/10 , edited 9/13/10

abdulmoham77 wrote:


Frankly, I find it unfair that you would state something like that when your only source of information is the media and the internet. I would call it quite biased, in fact. "loud", "belligerent" and "uncompromising" are not words you use to describe a religion, they're words to describe a person's personality, a mere opinion, and are not subjective. It is also very presumptuous of you to speak for an entire group of people. As a Muslim, i've always favored the psychological approach towards religion and am looking into an islamic branch of mysticism, called Sufism, so I cannot speak for other muslims, as the majority of muslims are Sunni (even then, Sunni divides into many Schools of Law, or Schools of thought). There are many different individuals within Islam, of different nations and whether they are of a violent nature or not is purely an environmental factor, not something that can be blamed on religion.


Please note that I was attempting to Translate. Not express myself. For my own sake I'd have phrased things less strongly Though there is an abiding suspicion and dislike of the apparant cultural imperatives that seem inextricably linked to Islam as I understand it from the Media, the internet, and the personal and anecdotal experience of myself and those with whom I converse. It's not any one event but a pattern of events that leads me to this conclusion. Also I try not to tar all of Islam with the brush paint. which is why my own posts tend to be laced with qualifiers.

I'd love to discuss the branches and philosphical differences within Islam with someone with the knowledge, Command of English, and the fortitude of mind and emotion not to see every honest question as an attack.


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The people and Europe Post WW2 Are s used to Mother to the grave government. If Islam can intimidate the government say like France then Islam will rule just out of fear. I would expect this out of France. England a once proud Nation has a similarly set up as France but I hope. The British will pull there heads out of the sand and kick Islam out. What was left from the Soviets that are not Islamic in nature would realize the risk they take when letting in that type of societal rot in. They lived under the gun to the head Government will they go for it again I hope not. I been given it allot of thought any religion that practice in the same matter as Islam should be treated terrorist organization here in the state. separation of church and state Islamic stated goal is to replace with it own theocracy. Simple view but very logical, the Qumran is it's best enemy.
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Where you make your Mistake Tara and get in trouble with others is when you tar every Muslim with the brush of the extremists. This just makes you sound like a bigoted wank instead of someone with wisdom and valid thought to contribute.
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I'd say Europe is turning against the Muslims because they are causing lots of problems and unrest. And its escalating.

When you can get killed by a Muslim simply for making a cartoon about Islam, its a problem and something needs to be done.
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That is the chief problem I have with Islam as it appears to be practiced. The asymmetric response to perceived disrespect.
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