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Posted 10/4/10 , edited 10/5/10
I would like to know how close all of you have gotten to chapel perilous. Share your experience. Good idea or not? .


“Chapel Perilous, like the mysterious entity called ‘I,’ cannot be located in the space-time continuum; it is weightless, odorless, tasteless and undetectable by ordinary instruments. Indeed, like the Ego, it is even possible to deny that it is there. And yet, even more like the Ego, once you are inside it, there doesn’t seem to be any way to ever get out again, until you suddenly discover that it has been brought into existence by thought and does not exist outside thought. Everything you fear is waiting with slavering jaws in Chapel Perilous, but if you are armed with the wand of intuition, the cup of sympathy, the sword of reason and the pentacle of valor, you will find there (the legends say) the Medicine of Metals, the Elixir of Life, the Philosopher’s Stone, True Wisdom and Perfect Happiness.”

This is the quest for the Holy grail.




Level 1

This level produces a mild 'stoning' effect, with some visual enhancement (e.g. brighter colors) Some short term memory anomalies. Left and right brain communication changes causing music to sound 'wider'. Can be achieved with moderate to high doses of cannabis or low doses of psilocybin.[1]


Level 2

Bright colors, and visuals (ie. things start to move and breathe) some 2 dimensional patterns become apparent upon shutting eyes. Confused or reminiscent thoughts. Change of short term memory leads to continual distractive thought patterns. Vast increase in abstract thought becomes apparent as the natural brain filter is bypassed. Can be achieved with very high doses of cannabis, small doses of psilocybin, mescaline, or LSD as well as regular doses of MDMA.


Level 3

Very obvious visuals, everything looking curved or warped patterns and kaleidoscopes seen on walls, faces etc. Some mild hallucinations such as rivers flowing in wood grained or 'mother of pearl' surfaces. Closed eye hallucinations become 3 dimensional. There is some confusing of the senses (ie. seeing sounds as colors etc.) Time distortions and `moments of eternity`.Movement at times becomes extremely difficult (too much effort required)

There is a heightened sense of awareness of one's own feelings and drive. People who reach level 3 usually report it as thought provoking and life changing. For some people who reach level 3, their ability to discern is somewhat thrown off. People who reach level 3 and higher are more likely to respond to suggestive stimuli. At such a level it is recommended that there be a sitter to watch over the tripper just in case he/she would do something that could be a potential hazard. Can be achieved with normal doses of psilocybin, mescaline, or LSD.[1]


Level 4

Strong hallucinations, that is, objects morphing into other objects. Destruction or multiple splitting of the ego. (Things start talking to you, or you find that you are feeling contradictory things simultaneously) Some loss of reality. Time becomes meaningless. Out of body experiences and extra-sensory perception type phenomena. Blending of the senses.[1]

Level 5

Total loss of visual connection with reality. The senses cease to function in the normal way. One may feel like they are merging with space, other objects, or the universe, or feel oneness with the world. There are powerful, and sometimes brutal, psycho-physical reactions interpreted by some users as reliving their own birth. Feelings of reaching to the beginning or the end of space and time. The loss of reality is so extreme that it becomes ineffable. Dream or movie-like states, people have been reported seeing themselves in entirely different settings than their original setting. Many people experience religious phenomenon at this level. Often mentioned are an "all-powerful presence" or a "universal knowledge" which many equate to their idea of God or enlightenment. During experiences caused by substances such as DMT (which is an active ingredient in Ayahuasca), many people encounter seemingly conscious beings or entities that seem to be alien or something stranger and manufacture visual patterns of objects that are self-aware themselves inside an incredibly strange and alien reality. These experiences cause people to experience an extra-dimensional reality of geometric patterns. Earlier levels are relatively easy to describe in terms of measurable changes in perception and thought patterns. "Ego loss", or complete dissolution of one's awareness of the existence of self, is an essential trait of level 5 experiences; the boundaries between "self" and encompassing reality cease to exist, and all that one is conscious of is the abstract manifestations of the hallucination. Thoughts are not processed or realized in words or an "inner voice", as in everyday life; in the midst of a level 5 hallucination, it is essentially impossible to distinguish conscious thought from the hallucination itself. This feeling has been described, with tryptamine-based hallucinogens like LSD or high doses of psilocybin, as a sense of "oneness" with the universe; with extremely powerful entheogens such as DMT or salvia divinorum, the resultant hallucination is difficult to describe, but has been likened by some to being "transformed into a Picasso painting". Many people claim to have spoken to intelligent entities during their trips, to have experienced alternate dimensions, or to have existed for thousands of years - often not as a human but as an abstract entity such as a shadow or paint - though the trip itself, in the case of salvia and DMT, lasted only five to ten minutes. This effect can be produced in high doses of LSD, mescaline and psilocybin. It can actually be a common occurrence in average doses of DMT and salvia divinorum.

If you reach level five, you will NOT be the same person coming out as you go in. Being in this state leads the subject into becoming either dead, stone paranoid or an agnostic. So tread with caution

Also here is a video explaining the 8 circuit model. It is AMAZINGLY INTERESTING.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PIjdSKyfn8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3a-G7k8YHx0&feature=related
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Is there a level 0? Nah never tripped before. Just minor buzziness but not on drugs. But if I rub my eyes hard enough I think I can achieved level 1.
Posted 10/4/10

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Is there a level 0? Nah never tripped before. Just minor buzziness but not on drugs. But if I rub my eyes hard enough I think I can achieved level 1.


It's possible to achieve level five without drugs at all, but only if you are either about to die, or are extremely devout towards meditation, like monks. I reached level one on cannabis and thought I was having an epiphany only to realize, theres so much I don't know.
Posted 10/4/10
Tried ecstasy.
Tbh, I was fucking scared, so I locked myself in room and listened to music.
I think it fucked up my hearing or something.
The bass got louder or some shit.
I also danced.

O_o
Posted 10/4/10 , edited 10/4/10

GheyDeer wrote:

Tried ecstasy.
Tbh, I was fucking scared, so I locked myself in room and listened to music.
I think it fucked up my hearing or something.
The bass got louder or some shit.
I also danced.

O_o


Yeah when I tried cannabis, I was already paranoid from an earlier event which made me run away from home, then getting paranoid off the drug made me stone insane and scared like crazy.
Posted 10/4/10

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GheyDeer wrote:

Tried ecstasy.
Tbh, I was fucking scared, so I locked myself in room and listened to music.
I think it fucked up my hearing or something.
The bass got louder or some shit.
I also danced.

O_o


Yeah when I tried cannabis, I was already paranoid from an earlier event which made me run away from home, then getting paranoid off the drug made me stone insane and scared like crazy.


Eh, weed kinda burnt my throat.
But that was about it.

Cigarettes gave me tinnitus.
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I would like to know how close all of you have gotten to chapel perilous. Share your experience. Good idea or not?


“Chapel Perilous, like the mysterious entity called ‘I,’ cannot be located in the space-time continuum; it is weightless, odorless, tasteless and undetectable by ordinary instruments. Indeed, like the Ego, it is even possible to deny that it is there. And yet, even more like the Ego, once you are inside it, there doesn’t seem to be any way to ever get out again, until you suddenly discover that it has been brought into existence by thought and does not exist outside thought. Everything you fear is waiting with slavering jaws in Chapel Perilous, but if you are armed with the wand of intuition, the cup of sympathy, the sword of reason and the pentacle of valor, you will find there (the legends say) the Medicine of Metals, the Elixir of Life, the Philosopher’s Stone, True Wisdom and Perfect Happiness.”

This is the quest for the Holy grail.




Level 1

This level produces a mild 'stoning' effect, with some visual enhancement (e.g. brighter colors) Some short term memory anomalies. Left and right brain communication changes causing music to sound 'wider'. Can be achieved with moderate to high doses of cannabis or low doses of psilocybin.[1]


Level 2

Bright colors, and visuals (ie. things start to move and breathe) some 2 dimensional patterns become apparent upon shutting eyes. Confused or reminiscent thoughts. Change of short term memory leads to continual distractive thought patterns. Vast increase in abstract thought becomes apparent as the natural brain filter is bypassed. Can be achieved with very high doses of cannabis, small doses of psilocybin, mescaline, or LSD as well as regular doses of MDMA.


Level 3

Very obvious visuals, everything looking curved or warped patterns and kaleidoscopes seen on walls, faces etc. Some mild hallucinations such as rivers flowing in wood grained or 'mother of pearl' surfaces. Closed eye hallucinations become 3 dimensional. There is some confusing of the senses (ie. seeing sounds as colors etc.) Time distortions and `moments of eternity`.Movement at times becomes extremely difficult (too much effort required)

There is a heightened sense of awareness of one's own feelings and drive. People who reach level 3 usually report it as thought provoking and life changing. For some people who reach level 3, their ability to discern is somewhat thrown off. People who reach level 3 and higher are more likely to respond to suggestive stimuli. At such a level it is recommended that there be a sitter to watch over the tripper just in case he/she would do something that could be a potential hazard. Can be achieved with normal doses of psilocybin, mescaline, or LSD.[1]


Level 4

Strong hallucinations, that is, objects morphing into other objects. Destruction or multiple splitting of the ego. (Things start talking to you, or you find that you are feeling contradictory things simultaneously) Some loss of reality. Time becomes meaningless. Out of body experiences and extra-sensory perception type phenomena. Blending of the senses.[1]

Level 5

Total loss of visual connection with reality. The senses cease to function in the normal way. One may feel like they are merging with space, other objects, or the universe, or feel oneness with the world. There are powerful, and sometimes brutal, psycho-physical reactions interpreted by some users as reliving their own birth. Feelings of reaching to the beginning or the end of space and time. The loss of reality is so extreme that it becomes ineffable. Dream or movie-like states, people have been reported seeing themselves in entirely different settings than their original setting. Many people experience religious phenomenon at this level. Often mentioned are an "all-powerful presence" or a "universal knowledge" which many equate to their idea of God or enlightenment. During experiences caused by substances such as DMT (which is an active ingredient in Ayahuasca), many people encounter seemingly conscious beings or entities that seem to be alien or something stranger and manufacture visual patterns of objects that are self-aware themselves inside an incredibly strange and alien reality. These experiences cause people to experience an extra-dimensional reality of geometric patterns. Earlier levels are relatively easy to describe in terms of measurable changes in perception and thought patterns. "Ego loss", or complete dissolution of one's awareness of the existence of self, is an essential trait of level 5 experiences; the boundaries between "self" and encompassing reality cease to exist, and all that one is conscious of is the abstract manifestations of the hallucination. Thoughts are not processed or realized in words or an "inner voice", as in everyday life; in the midst of a level 5 hallucination, it is essentially impossible to distinguish conscious thought from the hallucination itself. This feeling has been described, with tryptamine-based hallucinogens like LSD or high doses of psilocybin, as a sense of "oneness" with the universe; with extremely powerful entheogens such as DMT or salvia divinorum, the resultant hallucination is difficult to describe, but has been likened by some to being "transformed into a Picasso painting". Many people claim to have spoken to intelligent entities during their trips, to have experienced alternate dimensions, or to have existed for thousands of years - often not as a human but as an abstract entity such as a shadow or paint - though the trip itself, in the case of salvia and DMT, lasted only five to ten minutes. This effect can be produced in high doses of LSD, mescaline and psilocybin. It can actually be a common occurrence in average doses of DMT and salvia divinorum.

If you reach level five, you will NOT be the same person coming out as you go in. Being in this state leads the subject into becoming either dead, stone paranoid or an agnostic. So tread with caution


sounds like acid trips you're talking about.


I personally wouldn't want any drugs messing with my brain because I need it to have a good stable future unlike the hedonistic druggies going nowhere except for the present with no real dreams or aspirations.
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Omg LemonyPanda.
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varnlestoff wrote:


BugginMary wrote:

Is there a level 0? Nah never tripped before. Just minor buzziness but not on drugs. But if I rub my eyes hard enough I think I can achieved level 1.


It's possible to achieve level five without drugs at all, but only if you are either about to die, or are extremely devout towards meditation, like monks. I reached level one on cannabis and thought I was having an epiphany only to realize, theres so much I don't know.


Yep I have heard of monks reaching some form of level 5. Just as I've heard on women achieving ecstasy without physical stimuli. Crazy what the mind can do. But drugs have always scared me because of the very fact that they alter your perception and lower your inhibitions bad combination imo.
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Omg LemonyPanda.
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uh oh...is this who I think it is

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GheyDeer wrote:



Omg LemonyPanda.
:D


uh oh...is this who I think it is


Well, if you were to get it right, then you really haven't gotten over our relationship over these past few years.
:')
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LemonyPanda wrote:


GheyDeer wrote:



Omg LemonyPanda.
:D


uh oh...is this who I think it is


Well, if you were to get it right, then you really haven't gotten over our relationship over these past few years.
:')


lol...Back to trolling the crunchyroll forums with pseudonyms of creepy animals?
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GheyDeer wrote:


LemonyPanda wrote:


GheyDeer wrote:



Omg LemonyPanda.
:D


uh oh...is this who I think it is


Well, if you were to get it right, then you really haven't gotten over our relationship over these past few years.
:')


lol...Back to trolling the crunchyroll forums with pseudonyms of creepy animals?

lol...Trying to get some pics deleted.
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Man.. I've run laps around all the levels. >.<
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"Some visual enhancements."
"Some short term memory anomalies."

Sounds like something I experience every now and then. And as far as I'm concerned; I don't use any other mind altering substances other than alcohol or chocolate (if the latter counts).
Perhaps my unbalanced lifestyle may have something to do with this. Or me forgetting to eat some days.
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