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Impressions on To Aru Majutsu no Index season 2
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Episode 6. Ok I didnt really understand what happened in this episode at all.

I dont remmeber what the Tree Diagram was....I dont know what the Remnants was.....is there something from Railgun that I would have needed to seen to have understood this episode? Or were they things from the first season that I have just forgot?

And how did Misaka figure out where that other Teleporter was?


The Tree Diagram came up during the Accelerator story arc in the first season of Index, It's some kind of ultimate super computer up in orbit. It got destroyed and the Remnants are bits and pieces of it.

In the Manga (and the recent OVA) Misaka has shown she has pretty significant sensory abilities with her power, it could be that either the Teleporter or the Remnant is emitting some kind of signal she can track.


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Episode 7.

Ok what the hell. This episode didnt make shit for sense at all. Well maybe it did, but the way they presented stuff in this episode makes me rage.

First off, why the hell did that Move Point Girl needlessly keep freaking out when she clearly had Kuroko beat. This is one of my pet peeves about this show, people NEEDLESSLY get surprised and caught off guard for the dumbest reasons.

Second, how the hell did Touma perform that feat of jumping on mid-air objects to catch Kuroko? I mean I know this is an anime but....have we ever seen Touma perform such a feat before this?

And the BIGGEST WTF was when Move Point Girl and Accelerator fought. WHY DID THEY FIGHT? It didnt even seem like the Accelerator was going to fight her in the beginnning, but then she just flips out and winds up having to fight him. And even then, why couldnt she just simply teleport and run away? I mean come on, whats the point of having such an Ungodly ability if you dont even use it right.

And fourth. Well I guess I cant really complain about this.....since it can probably be cleared up if I simply remembered the 1st season.....but why did the Move Point Girls Science Team get under attack for some reason? When she was on the phone, you could hear gunfire....and I dont know who that was....but Im pretty sure I remember some sort of police force from the first season. But even then I still dont understand what hell happened.

My biggest pet peeves about this show are the characters needlessly surprised faces, which then gets them offguard almost every freaking time, and then they lose. And that its confusing as hell for me. But I guess I cant complain about it being confusing since if I remembered clearly what happened in the 1st season, I probably wouldnt be asking half of the stuff I ask.

And about Accelerators processing ability....he says he cant use it anymore.....and I dont even remember what that processing ability was? I thought all he could do was manipulate the flow of things, like air?

*sigh*

Edit: And one more thing. How can someone differentiate between Magic Abilities and Science abilities? The only Magic Ability users that I remember off the top of my head are Index and the Fire Mage. I know they are mages simply because they have to chant something before they use their ability. But how come abilities like Kuroko teleporting isnt considered a magic? What in the world is considered Science, and what in the world is considered magic?

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LOL I'll do my best here, but brace yourself I'm long winded.

I gotta admit that story arc did seem a little rushed. On Move Point Girl freaking out I can only come up with two things.
1) as Kuroko said, she's got some mental trauma regarding teleporting herself. On top of that she seems to hate herself and her powers, to the extent that she sees herself and other Espers as monsters, that her powers make her a monster and places the blame for all the horrible things she's done not on herself but her powers. Kuroko pretty much challenged her entire world view and people tend to react badly to that. So together with the Self-Teleport Trauma she was mentally pushed a little more than she's used to.
2) Despite everything she had said and done over the episode I don't think she has ever used a Gun to kill someone before, not 100% she has killed before, period. The act of actually shooting someone on top of the mental stress she had already built up could have been a bit much. Particularly for someone fairly young.

It probably would have gone over well if we were given more insight into her psychology. the character seemed to have a lot of baggage motivating her but they never really made it clear what that was.

Touma's awesomeness.... yeah that seems a little over the top but I just passed it off as a "the Hero is Cool" moment.

The Accelerator fight. She was already pushed mentally, probably thought she had actually killed Kuroko by that point, probably slightly paranoid at the very least really stressed. and then Tadaa most powerful evil SOB in the city showed up. Guy who has killed close to 10000 little clone girls. She had a brief moment of hope when she remembered that he should have lost his powers, but she had to open her big mouth and talk about it.

She didn't actually start that fight, Accelerator did as a reaction to being viewed weak. She didn't attack once she just ran, but her Mental Trauma about Self-Port limited her to locations within sight.

No idea what happened with her team. Either it's part of a later story arc or it's a Flip side story for the Railgun series.


Accelerator's powers are based on recalculation of Vectors. Everything he dose, It's all Math, when he got shot in the head he lost the ability to make those calculations and as a result, while he still has his power it became useless. Now the Misaka network dose his calculations for him. The very people he was killing are now the key to his powers.


On Magic vs. Espers. From what I remember being mentioned in season 1 Magic was originally created as a reaction to Espers. Basically some point in the distant past people tried to find a way to imitate the powers of Espers and that lead to the development of magic.
Esper's work by creating their own personal reality in their mind and then projecting it into the world around them, thus each Esper has only one power because their minds are only capable of define a single personal reality. These Personal realities also seem to generate a detectable field of some kind.
Magic on the other hand seems to call on outside forces to manipulate reality.
Beyond that, Mages need tools to do their work while Espers simply use force of will.
There seems to be other factors in being a mage, people have to be capable of magic to use, so there is clearly an undefined quality there and not everyone can simple become a Mage. Index is an exception to the rule. She has no ability for magic but because she has all the books she can use it regardless.
Also Magic and Psychic Powers seem to be polar opposites, if you've got one you aren't supposed to use the other. There is one guy who seems to have both and it tends to hurt him pretty bad.

Lastly while Espers are known to the world Mages are not. The higher ups of Academy City might know, but the general public has no idea.



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I guess you pretty much answered them all. Yea I originally wanted to say this episode seemed a little rushed to me, but I figured that wouldn't really mean squat since I couldn't remember all of season 1 perfectly.

But I guess now I got new questions xD

1. So was that Accelerator vs Move Point Girl totally avoidable? Move Point Girl told him he was weak and therefore he got mad and crushed her, so would it be safe to say that fight was avoidable?

2. Still not sure on the Math ability of Accelerator. So his whole ability is by using math to recalculate the vectors. However he clearly used his ability against the Move Point Girl. So I guess you mean that he doesn't have the ability to like.....negate or change the vectors of enemy attacks? If thats the case then I think I can understand.....controlling his own vectors is probably easier than controlling others vectors.
Oh wait, you said Misaka Misaka does the calculation for him........so........I guess he can still fight the same way or something? Well it looked obvious he couldnt....but if he lost his ability to calculate, but now has Misaka Misaka to do it.....does that mean its a 100% trade off? Like does it work just as well as if he woulda had it?

ANd I guess that Esper vs Mage thing is kinda cleared up for me now....even though it totally seems from that description that the word Science doesnt even come close to what Espers are actually doing/using xD But at least I understand.

So an Esper can only use his 1 type of ability, while a Mage can use....multiple types maybe? I guess not, since the Fire Guy seems to have only used fire type attacks. So I guess they are both the same, except for their upbringing on their powers and how they use it. Ok.

Ok I guess that covers it all. I'll make sure to watch this show from now on with just accepting the stuff that happens xD
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Maybe not avoidable but it could have been a lot less painful for her. Accelerator was there for the remnant, If she had handed it over nicely the he probably would have just walked away. Unfortunately he has a real chip on his shoulder when it comes to people looking down on him though. It always results in him making things bloody. He tends to prove his point by breaking every bone in your body.

As far as the Misaka's go, I'm not 100% sure on the details. From what I gather the clones are all mentally linked by transmitting electrical impulses to each others brains, with Mini Misaka being the central hub. The Frog face doctor gave Accelerator something that lets them transmit to him as well. So he wants to do X, they do all the math and then feed the data into his power. I imagine there is probably some kind of Lag time now.

Frankly that Doctor is some kind of damn miracle worker.
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Episode 6. Ok I didnt really understand what happened in this episode at all.

I dont remmeber what the Tree Diagram was....I dont know what the Remnants was.....is there something from Railgun that I would have needed to seen to have understood this episode? Or were they things from the first season that I have just forgot?

And how did Misaka figure out where that other Teleporter was?


I think they destroyed the tree diagram in Index 1. it was the plot with the crazy white haired guy. Remnants are what's left of the destroyed tree diagram.

Except for Kuroko everything you -need- for this episode was in index 1 even though, I like you, forgot most of it.

Railgun is so much better than main series (I find Index herself to be annoying and detracts from the show, and Touma is more fun as a sometimes hapless sometimes awesome support character)



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ESP, Psionics, etc.

Are ways to make 'magic' (the ability to control your environment with your will) seem scientific. They are pseudo science at best. So really in all honesty the divide between magic users and espers in the index universe is an artificial one established by the author.

Accelerator can alter the vectors (the velocity usually) of anything in his vicinity. Touma defeated him by having the misakas create an environment of completely dead air so the only vector to manipulate was touma's movement.

About the slaughter over the phone.

I didn't recognise the woman's voice that you hear cursing out the Bad Guys behind Move Point Girl but there are plenty of Candidates.

1) the female Head researcher behind Accelerator, knows how to use a gun and has flipped over completely to defending Accelerator and Mini-Misaka. The epithets and taunts that we heard over the phone could have been hers.

2) A couple of the Teachers at Misaka's school are members of the 'anti-skills' ( a uniformed police force which definite paramilitary capabilities as well as a patrolling function) in Rail Gun, they've deliberately gone beyond their orders a few times helping Misaka Kuroko and team defeat Railgun's Bad Guys. I consider them very likely candidates for taking out Move Point Girl's backers.

3) the end boss for the first season of railgun is a heroine in the later season. I don't consider her a high probability candidate but again, she knows how to use a gun, and is mentally not unlike candidate 1.

4) there may have been angry gun toting chicks from index 1 that I have forgotten.... (though I doubt that: girls with guns = drool)
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Meltdowner and team could be another possibility. So far they have only appeared in the Railgun Manga, they had a pretty big role in the Railgun side of the Accelerator story. They are kind of a black ops, odd jobs team, willing to do a lot of questionable jobs for the right amount of money. Meltdowner herself is another of the city's level 5 Espers, she manipulates Microwaves I think. That scene over the phone could be setting some foreshadowing to Touma meeting her later this season.


That's one thing to keep in mind, several of these stories have two sides to them. The Index side and the Railgun side. We only saw the Index side of the original Accelerator story in the Anime, while the Railgun Manga had the other side of it. So there could be the same thing with this Remnant story arc.
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Episode 8. Well it seems like next episode we are going to see a skilled enemy fight.

I find it odd how a Saint has the power of a Nuke though.

And on a random note, I just skimmed through the last episode of Railgun, without watching any of the episodes, and I totally see what you guys mean, that fight was pretty epic.

So now the only thing I guess I want to know is the power levels of the characters.

Is stiyle on the same level as Kanzaki? Is the blonde haired guy on the same level as Kanzaki? Just who is that blonde girl that Stilye hangs around with.

And I could have sworn the main antagonist of the first season was that guy in the container who was upside down.....but since it seems that the blonde girl is working with him.....who Stilye is then working for her.......just who the heck are the real bad guys in this anime?
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Episode 8. Well it seems like next episode we are going to see a skilled enemy fight.

I find it odd how a Saint has the power of a Nuke though.

And on a random note, I just skimmed through the last episode of Railgun, without watching any of the episodes, and I totally see what you guys mean, that fight was pretty epic.

So now the only thing I guess I want to know is the power levels of the characters.

Is stiyle on the same level as Kanzaki? Is the blonde haired guy on the same level as Kanzaki? Just who is that blonde girl that Stilye hangs around with.

And I could have sworn the main antagonist of the first season was that guy in the container who was upside down.....but since it seems that the blonde girl is working with him.....who Stilye is then working for her.......just who the heck are the real bad guys in this anime?


'I believe your looking at the world all wrong..
your way of thinking is to black and white. Evil and good? No they all shades of Grey.
In the end the real enemy it self may not be the mages but the religions. (as in all branches involved in this.)



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the upside down guy in the container I think is the ultimate lord (for want of a better term) of the Academy. I'm not sure but I think he's some sort of super computer.

The blonde that Steyr hangs out with I think is the Arch Bishop of Canterbury (head of the anglican/episcpalian church)

Kanzaki and the Amasuka.. refer back to a homegrown branch of Japanese Christianity that was brutally suppressed sometime during the latter years of the Tokagawa shogunate... I THINK... roughly contemporarily with the time of the legendary Ninja: Jubei (ninja scrolls, Jubei-chan, Samurai girls). Depending on the anime they can be a cabal of evil sorcery using bad guys or helpless victims of oppression (sometimes both: starting as the latter and evolving into the former for revenge). In Index they seem to be reasonably nice Though their sinister rep was definitely played up.

Except for the main characters themselves there's no real good guys and bad guys. and even some Bad guys cross the floor to become good and some 'good' guys reveal their true colours.

Each of the various organisations are just that. Powers that be, with agents who serve their interests.
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Episode 9. Well I learned something new.

There are actually Wizards AND magicians. Im guessing a Wizard is an enhanced version of a magician.

And wait....during the ball competition....the middle schools were participating......Misaka is in middle school?

Seems like the fight is going to happen next episode.

Edit: And on a random note.....what the hell does BiriBiri mean?
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Misaka was introduced being a middle schooler in the first series. Biri is kind of like the japanese sound effect for electricity you would see in mangas and stuff so its just kind of a little nickname he thought up for her.
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Episode 9. Well I learned something new.

There are actually Wizards AND magicians. Im guessing a Wizard is an enhanced version of a magician.

And wait....during the ball competition....the middle schools were participating......Misaka is in middle school?

Seems like the fight is going to happen next episode.

Edit: And on a random note.....what the hell does BiriBiri mean?


Probably Sorcerer is a better choice for translation than Wizard in this case. Terry Pratchett described a Sorcerer as being a "Source of Magic" and that seems to be the case here as well.

basically a Magician is someone with the ability to use spells that are found in Grimoirs but they can't create new ones while a Sorcerer can create new spells and write new Grimoirs.

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superluccix wrote:

Episode 9. Well I learned something new.

There are actually Wizards AND magicians. Im guessing a Wizard is an enhanced version of a magician.

And wait....during the ball competition....the middle schools were participating......Misaka is in middle school?

Seems like the fight is going to happen next episode.

Edit: And on a random note.....what the hell does BiriBiri mean?



I think less of an 'enhanced' more like... 'different'. Perhaps like natural Espers and those who used the 'level-up-er' (from Railgun) are technically both Espers. Or maybe the difference between different schools of magic. It seems basically, as far as I can understand, is that Orianna Thompson is unique for being able to create her own spell books. The little talismans she leaves behind are miniature single use 'grimoires' that she's written in shorthand.


Re: BiriBiri. Think of it as calling her 'sparky'.. except a literal translation would be something more like "ZapZap" at least he doesn't call her Picachu. (pica being another 'zap' word. and Chu being a sound associated with mice.)


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