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I know a lot of people are a bit confused by The Inspectors, many assuming that you need a massive amount of previous experience to really watch the show. That's not necessarily true and the show itself, within its first episode does explain what happened in the previous season/game. Aside from not being more familiar with the characters, the way the story is laid out you actually aren't supposed to know everything going on from the beginning. If you were playing OG2 right now on your Gameboy Advance, you'd STILL be confused by the multiple and mysterious factions. You are supposed to. The EFA characters sure are, so should you. But even so, it's still irritating some people to not have a handle on things so with this guide, I hope to pacify a little bit of the frustration with some basic, non spoilery information that you might all find helpful.

This will be broken up into three sections: First a basic history. What is Super Robot Wars? What is OG? A basic introduction for those experiencing their world quaking as "The Second Super Robot War begins". XD Next, everything you "are supposed" to know already going into The Inspectors. Basically an overview of Original Generation 1 and its accompanying anime (read: the first season), Divine Wars. Characters, story, and such. And the last part which will be posted as the new episodes continue to air, a little bit of compare and contrast of how the series is matching the GBA original. Some things have been altered here and there. Some good, some bad, some spoilery, some actually shedding light on some things. This section will probably be marked with spoiler stuff so be careful when reading it if you don't want TOO much information.

Now. Let us begin. :)

What is Super Robot Wars? Super Robot Wars is a Strategy/RPG series created by Banpresto which has seen releases on almost every major console in existance and began its life on the Nintendo Gameboy. The original SRW was straight forward with nary any story at all. Something called Gilgirgun was turning robots evil and you had to take a team of good robots to win over or destroy the bad ones. The game used only three anime licenses, Mobile Suit Gundam, Mazinger Z, and Getter Robo let you choose a team from these three shows. You could later customize your team by letting unwanted robots die and replacing them with convinced enemy units you liked. All in all, it sold well enough for a sequel to be made, that being Super Robot Wars 2, for the Nintendo Famicom(NES). And that... Is the true start of our story!

Super Robot Wars 2

A scientist named Bian Zoldark, believing in a coming alien invasion, founds a secret society called the Divine Crusaders and creates a powerful robot called Valcion as its symbol. A coup is staged and the Earth Federation Army is defeated. With the DC in power, it seems freedom would parish under this new regime however... As the mobile suit carrier White Base and its small group of freedom fighters (made up once again by characters from Gundam, Mazinger, and Getter) attempts to counterattack the DC, they keep running into a mysterious birdlike robot and a young man on a quest for revenge. Masaki Andou is his name and hit machine is the Elemental Lord of Wind, Cybuster. Traveling from the mysterious inner earth world of La Gaias, he hunts for a man named Shuu Shirakawa who committed some great crimes in La Gaias and is now Bian Zoldark's right hand man. Masaki must eventually join the White Base crew as they fight the Zabis, Dr. Hell, the Mechasaur Empire, the Zanscare Empire, the Vegans, and eventually, the DC.

If you've been paying attention to The Inspectors, some of this sounded familiar. Indeed, all that right there, was the first Banpresto Original story, Elemental Lord Cybuster, created to help tie the differing worlds of Gundam, Mazinger, and Getter into one, somewhat believable story. SRW2 marked the beginning of the use of original characters and stories to help bind the separate anime licenses together. The practice would continue in SRW3 (for the Super Famicom/SNES) giving us both the Neo DC AND... The Inspectors. SRW4 saw the introduction of Protagonists characters, through whom the player saw each war unfold. The Gespensts, Grungusts, Huckbeins (Gundam like real robots, that look so much like real Gundams that Bandai had them taken out of Divine Wars' and is apparently stripping them from this show as today's episode evidenced) Irm, Gilliam, and Ring Mao (not yet seen this season) hail from this one. Then Banpresto had the bright idea to make a game with only original units and characters, no licenses. The very first "Original Generation" game, Super Robot Wars Gaiden: Lord of the Elemental for the Super Famicom. Detailing the Cybuster backstory, how Masaki came to La Gaias, how he became Cybuster's pilot, and what Shuu Shirakawa did to make Masaki chase him around the World! It even spawned a TV series! Yes, the very first OG TV series! XD Except... It was poorly handled and barely resembled the Cybuster story most SRW fans had become familiar with. To illustrate the point, here's the opening to the Cybuster anime along with the trailer for the recent DS remake of Lord of the Elemental. Can you spot how different these two are? :p

Elemental Lord Cybuster TV Op: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efHf18Zh9_I

Catchy music but... :p Now, this is what that was SUPPOSED to look like....

Super Robot Wars Gaiden: Lord of the Elemental: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T0gB1l0gZs

Yeah, very different. The TV show did have the DC and Bian and Shuu, and ... Supposedly Masaki was in there somewhere... And all the four Elemental Lords were accounted for but... Yeah, it's a mess... Moving on...

From this point on the series spread out to other consoles, Playstation, Saturn, and such... And more and more originals were created. Eventually Banpresto amassed enough characters that it occurred to them that they could make a game with JUST their originals and no licenses. Sure they did it before with Cybuster but these games would feature not just one original property but several of them together, much in the same way that the normal SRW games mixed and matched anime licenses. Thus Super Robot Wars: Original Generation was born on Gameboy Advance. And it was popular enough to make a sequel. The show we're watching now is based on the second game, Super Robot Wars: Original Generation 2, also for Gameboy Advance. But what about OG1? What was it about? It had a TV series made from it too, Divine Wars. What was the deal with that? Let's find out!

On a side note, if anyone wants to play the 2 OG games, both were published in the US by Atlus, though under a slightly different name, Super Robot Taisen. Why they chose Taisen when even Banpresto itself calls it Wars is beyond the me, however... Both games are probably out of print now,however, careful hunting of your local EB, Gamestop, or other used game merchant may spring up a copy. eBay is also an option and for our international readers, remember that Gameboys are all universal so the American made game WILL work in your foreign GBA. :)

Super Robot Wars: Original Generation/Divine Wars

Divine Wars Op 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga3Gw0QB9Vg
Divine Wars Op 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrpvzRo1rZs&feature=related

It all started with the fall of an object codenamed Meteor 3 which crashed on Aidonious Island in the South Pacific. Inside Meteor 3 was undeniable proof of the existence of Extra-Terrestrial Life Forms. The UN quickly set up an agency on the island to study the Meteor and its secrets, designated the Extra Over Technology Institute, or EOTI. Headed by a man named... Wait for it... Wait for it... Bian Zoldark. Sound familiar? Yes, a good deal of OG1/Divine Wars' story is take right from SRW2 for the NES. He begins building a secret army called the Divine Crusaders (:O) because he believes the EFA is too weak to withstand the aliens' coming. A number years passed and the technology from the meteor led to the creation of humanoid mobile weapons, hereafter known as Personal Troopers or PTs. Things were more or less going okay until the exploratory ship, Hiryu made it to the outskirts of the solar system. Commanded by Captain Daitetsu Minase (Theme Song: Ships Full of Hope http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr9zxUXSho8&feature=related ), it suddenly came under fire by alien robots. The ship was badly damaged and had to retreat. Not long after, those same bug shaped alien robots began to harass the EFA on Earth. Nicknamed the Aerogators by the EFA, their purpose and form was not known, only that they seemed to be testing Earth's defenses.

Enter our heroes, the SRX and ATX Teams. In the first game you had a choice of whose story to follow, however the Divine Wars series focused exclusively on the SRX Team while The Inspectors is focused on the ATX Team. You're probably already quite familiar with the ATX Team but let's just quickly run them down for completion's sake, shall we?

Kyousuke Nanbu (Theme Song: Steel Beowulf http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBKhqPwbxCg ) - Originally the second in command of the ATX under Sanger Zonvolt. Little is known about his past other than being a consummate military man who prefers upclose combat and is uncomfortable with long range combat. Considers himself a gambler of sorts. For reasons that we shall see, has a certain blonde strapped to his arm that never lets go. :p Pilots a heavily armored, customized version of the Gespenst called the Alteisen.

Sanger Zonvolt (Theme Song: The Sword that Cleaves Evil http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OneSxuVy9U ) - The original leader of the ATX Team and a former member of the Aggressors (the test pilots that flew the first PTs), he literally believes himself to tool against all evil and believes in his sword more than anything else. Kyousuke looks up to him and everyone genuinely trusts him. However, he shocked everyone when he joined the DC. His best friend, Elzam Branstein convinced him that was the best path and Sanger went along with the coup. Thouogh no one could understand his "betrayal", Sanger believed for the greater good. Eventually, he lent his strength to the good guys after the DC War but then disappeared after the L5 Campaign. Piloted the Grungust Type Zero. Currently pilots: ???

Excellen Browning (Theme Song: Platinum Lucifer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM-q7ylHn10 ) - Like Kyosuke, not much is known about her past either. However, both he and her seemed to be linked in some way. Believes herself to be Kyousuke's girlfriend though he doesn't seem to have an opinion on the subject. Constantly teases Bullet and hardly ever takes anything seriously. Pilots yet another customized Gespenst, the Weissritter which is designed for long range combat.

Brooklyn "Bullet" Luckfield - The "normal" middle man of the group, he looks up to Kyousuke and his constantly being tormented by Excellen. Especially about his non-existent relationship with one Kusuha Mizuha. He has some limited psychic power, enough to use units equipped with the a T-Link System. Pilots... Variable. I think he starts out on a Gespenst Type TT and then a Huckbein Mk. II. On the show, they've got him on a mass production Wildeschwein, I think.

And now, for the SRX Team! They've only been recently introduced into The Inspectors so I'm sure you have many questions about them. No offense, but I always thought they were more interesting than the ATX Team... ^^;

Ryusei Date (Theme Song: Everywhere You Go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BARMKbaPTbM&feature=related ) - Pilot of the Real Robot Trooper #1, or R-1 for short, Ryusei is a mecha otaku and gamer. We first meet him in Akihabara, shopping for robot toys and models with best friend, Kusuha Mizuha. Almost out of high school, Ryusei wants to forgo college and get a normal job in order to help pay his mother's mounting medical bills. But first, he's become a finalist in a country wide tournament for a game called Burning PT. Matched against gaming legend Tenzan Nakajima, his final battle is set to be a real brawl however... Tenzan fails to show. (he shows up in Divine Wars and beats Ryusei only to disappear afterwards) Ryusei wins by default! However, his victory is cut short by the the appearance of the Aerogators who attack the stadium and injure Kasuha. To Ryusei's complete astonishment, a Gespenst Type TT has been left sitting out. And even more amazing, it's cockpit looks JUST like the cockpit in Burning PT so Ryusei can pilot it just fine. However, this is no mere coincidence. Burning PT was a front to find potential pilots for the EFA's SRX project. And before he knows it, Ryusei is forced into military service by SRX Project Leader Ingram Plisken who threatens both his mother's and Kasuha's safety. Resigned to the idea of being a test pilot and at least making money to pay his mother's bills, he becomes the SRX Team's front man. Or at least, he tries to be, he's still pretty naive and an otaku, but he becomes one of the EFA's best. Has been romantically linked to Latooni Subata.

Raidese F. Branstein ( Theme Song: Iceman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57ILmA25gcY ) - In Gundam terms, he's a Spacenoid and from a big and famous military family. He has no psychic power like Ryusei and Aya but he has skill and experience to back him up. His father is Maier Branstein, the head of the UCC and his brother Elzam is one of its brightest soldiers. His life was shaped by two key incidents. First among these is the Elpis Incident where terrorists set off a nerve gas inside the Elpis Colony. Everyone would've died if not for his brother Elzam who sacrificed his wife (and Rai's crush), Cattalyia to save the colony. The details have never been made clear, but Rai never quite forgave his brother for that bit. And then... Came the activation of the Huckbein Mk. I with its experimental Black Hole Engine. The near FATAL activation. The engine went out of control and it was quite messy. Rai lived... But at the cost of his left hand. He does not get along at all with Ryusei at first and it took some time for them to get used to each other. He pilots the R-2 Powered.

Aya Kobayashi (Theme Song: Psychic Energy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDk-yvYYnG0&NR=1 ) - Pilot of the R-3, she is the immediate commander of the team under Ingram. Often, that means breaking up Ryusei and Rai's verbal exchanges until they finally bury hatchet. Her past is highly mysterious and all that's known is that she lost her little sister Mai in some form of accident when she was little. Her father is Kenzou Kobayashi, the one of the lead scientists of the SRX Project. Aya has the strongest psychic power of all the SRX Members and it's a key component of the project's goal.

So, what exactly does the SRX Team do that makes them different from the ATX Team? Perhaps you noticed it in The Inspector's opening, maybe you didn't, but this is what makes the SRX Team special: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqH3AmuGOFk

Yes, they form the combining super robot, SRX (Super Robot X Type). There is a 4th R Unit, the R-Gun as well, however, there was never any time to integrate it into SRX and so it operated independently during the L5 Campaign.

But moving right along...

The UN, not wanting to pick a fight it might not win, tried to meet with the Aerogators in Antarctica, however, the EOTI's attending representative, one Shuu Shirakawa (Theme Song: Dark Prison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3HcfmPAxCY ) and his robot, Granzon, attacked the Aerogators as well as the EFA forces there including their new Space Noah class PT carrier, the Shirogane, also commanded by Daitetsu Minase, again. However, Shuu's rampage was stopped by the appearance of another unknown robot, the Cybuster, piloted by Masaki Andou (Theme Song: Hot Winded Hurricane, Cybuster! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQqTiSc-uDo ). However, Masaki did not stick around for explanations and was soon chasing after Shuu again. The EFA forces didn't have much time to scratch their heads as Granzon's attack signaled the DC's appearance and a months long civil war that ended on Aidonious Island. Bian died and Shuu got away. But Bian conceded that his entire purpose was to prepare the EFA forces for the coming battles by giving them a real enemy to train on first. Who knows if he was telling the truth or if the rest of DC would agree with the sentiment, but the war was far from over. DC remnants led by Adler Koch (former principal of The School) continued to struggle against the EFA. Then.... IT appeared.

The L5 Campaign

After a strange gravity fluctuation in the L5 Quadrant, the Aerogator's main base, the aritificial moon fortress, White Star appeared. The Aerogator's bugs soon rained down on Earth enmasse kidnapping soldiers to be converted into cyborg zombies called Bioroids to pilot even more advanced Aerogator robots. Led by a woman named Levi Torah (Theme Song: Marionette Messiah http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv_oUuz4H58 ), the Aerogators soon began to overwhelm the EFA forces. Right about this time, SRX Team Leader, Ingram Pliskin showed his true face, he was an Aerogator himself! He had used the EFA and the SRX Project to supply new research and data for his people. Eventually, an all or nothing battle was planned. It's code name, SRW. XD Ryusei correctly guessed it was probably stood for Super Robot War, however, Excellen believed it stood for Sexy Romance Weapon. XD Ah, Excellen, you crack us up! XD Operation SRW, The L5 Campaign. A knock down, drag out battle that culminated in a showdown with Levi Torah and her robot Judecca.

Or at least, it should've ended there. In the game, if you completed a certain amount of Battle Masteries, the real final battle would then occur, against the automated, civilization destroying wepapon, Septuigint. That battle occurred over Aidonious Island. If you didn't get enough Masteries, Levi was your final boss. And then there's Divine Wars which ended in a weird psychic battle between Ingram and.. Another universe's Ingram? Yeah, it was weird, I didn't follow it well. >_> Point is, the EFA won and Aerogators were defeated. The End.

Buuuuuuuuuut... It's not the end...

But that is everything that happened up until the first episode of The Inspectors. For now, I need to rest. This took FOREVER to write! XD Next time, Part 3, episode explanations and stuff... Yeah... I... I go sleep now. XD
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The "other universe's Ingram" is named Cobray Gordon...he's sort of an odd character, I'm not really sure where he fits in. Divine Wars Ep1 opens with Ingram, piloting a machine called Astranagant, fighting against Cobray, piloting a machine called Dis Astranagant.

Then there's the mysterious black machine that appears out of nowhere in Divine Wars to rescue the SRX from Septuagint, which is *drumroll* Astranagant. It subsequently disappears - or something. It shows up, rips the SRX out from where it was stuck inside Septuagint, and is never seen again.
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Right, right, Cobray. I couldn't remember his name. XD He's another Time Diver along with
, right?
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Awesome, everyone that's lost watching this series needs to read this topic.

A few things.


On a side note, if anyone wants to play the 2 OG games, both were published in the US by Atlus, though under a slightly different name, Super Robot Taisen. Why they chose Taisen when even Banpresto itself calls it Wars is beyond the me,


I don't know if this is true but the story's always been that they used that name to avoid getting people confused with the tv series Robot Wars

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e4cHWS2758

That's the UK version but you get the idea.

And it's written Super Robot Taisen (スーパーロボット大戦) even if it's not pronounced like that.


After a strange gravity fluctuation in the L5 Quadrant


Not really important but interesting, L5 actually refers to a point in space, Lagrangian point 5

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagrangian_point

Interesting stuff... to me anyway.

It was also revealed in OG1 that Ingram wasn't simply an enemy alien - in fact none of the aliens that attacked earth were Balmarians (the Aerogators true identity is the fifth (?) Ze Balmary Imperial Galactic Frontier Inspection Fleet) all of their soldiers were in fact captive humans. And Ingram was a captive... something else. A Time Diver. I don't think it's ever made entirely clear what a Time Diver is (in English anyway) but I always thought of him a Time Lord (kinda) it's made clear that he has a mission (to put right what once went wrong perhaps?) and that his capture has interfered with this mission but he's under Balmarian control now and only has a limited amount of free will. Which is why he created the SRX team - to set him free even if it means his death.

Slightly spoilers



Ingram also has several themes:

Time Diver http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXrJgMGMOIo

Vocal Ver http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdKhN45LNhg

Messenger from the Void http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2COKBJ1RI3M

This might be spoilers, it will at least spoil some of the character's origins if you go and look it up any further. Although I think the original audience was expected to know this already...




genredleader wrote:

Right, right, Cobray. I couldn't remember his name. XD He's another Time Diver along with
, right?


Food for thought

This is a spoiler

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Tyrfing wrote:

Awesome, everyone that's lost watching this series needs to read this topic.


Thanks! XD



A few things.


On a side note, if anyone wants to play the 2 OG games, both were published in the US by Atlus, though under a slightly different name, Super Robot Taisen. Why they chose Taisen when even Banpresto itself calls it Wars is beyond the me,


I don't know if this is true but the story's always been that they used that name to avoid getting people confused with the tv series Robot Wars

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e4cHWS2758

That's the UK version but you get the idea.


Yeah, I've heard that rumor too. I'm not sure why they would care since the show didn't really take off in the US the way Battle Bots did and even then, both were off the air over here when OG1 came out so... I dunno.



And it's written Super Robot Taisen (スーパーロボット大戦) even if it's not pronounced like that.


I've seen some Banpresto logos with it written Super Robot Wars in English. But of course Taisen would be how most people in Japan would know it.



It was also revealed in OG1 that Ingram wasn't simply an enemy alien - in fact none of the aliens that attacked earth were Balmarians (the Aerogators true identity is the fifth (?) Ze Balmary Imperial Galactic Frontier Inspection Fleet) all of their soldiers were in fact captive humans. And Ingram was a captive... something else. A Time Diver. I don't think it's ever made entirely clear what a Time Diver is (in English anyway) but I always thought of him a Time Lord (kinda) it's made clear that he has a mission (to put right what once went wrong perhaps?) and that his capture has interfered with this mission but he's under Balmarian control now and only has a limited amount of free will. Which is why he created the SRX team - to set him free even if it means his death.


Right, thanks! XD It's been a few years since I played OG1 and I knew I was missing something with Ingram's back story. XD



Ingram also has several themes:

Time Diver http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXrJgMGMOIo

Vocal Ver http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdKhN45LNhg

Messenger from the Void http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2COKBJ1RI3M



Perhaps we need a separate thread just for all the music all the characters have! XD SRW has such a rich aural history! ^^



This might be spoilers, it will at least spoil some of the character's origins if you go and look it up any further. Although I think the original audience was expected to know this already...




Yeah, I knew some of those but wasn't sure about who was and wasn't in Alpha since I've never had access to any modded or Japanese Playstations and thus am mostly versed only in the Nintendo side of the equation since their systems are so import friendly and Playstations are not. XD

One thing that I've been curious about since playing OG2 (I did wondered about this subject while playing Advance also but, having the game in English really crystallized my suspicions) is its possible connections to SRW64. I've heard it from others that they suspect that....






genredleader wrote:

Right, right, Cobray. I couldn't remember his name. XD He's another Time Diver along with
, right?


Food for thought

This is a spoiler




Yes, I've heard that about him. He's quite a busy guy! XD

And now for everyone else here's a couple of fun movies! XD

OG Commercial: http://gameads.gamepressure.com/tv_game_commercial.asp?ID=2956
OG2 Commercial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Wslvm06vgE
OG2 Commercial 2: http://gameads.gamepressure.com/tv_game_commercial.asp?ID=2930
Super Robot Spirits Commercial (see any familiar faces mixed in with those licensed people? XD): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1OP-UL6EwA&NR=1
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Yeah, I've heard that rumor too. I'm not sure why they would care since the show didn't really take off in the US the way Battle Bots did and even then, both were off the air over here when OG1 came out so... I dunno.


Really? The UK version ran for about six years (ending in 2004, I think). They might have been worried that the name would infringe on the Trademark (I don't think it would have) or there might have been some other IP issue. Banpresto might even have told them to call it that - although I don't know why they would.


I've seen some Banpresto logos with it written Super Robot Wars in English. But of course Taisen would be how most people in Japan would know it.


I was sure I'd heard one of the title screens with an announcer calling out "Super Robot Taisen #" but I can't remember which one. i thought it was SRW Z but I just started it up and it didn't come on... so I don't know what game it was in.


Perhaps we need a separate thread just for all the music all the characters have! XD SRW has such a rich aural history! ^^


Maybe.

You might be interested in these if you like the music

Vocal versions of the Original Theme songs:



http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-9x-49-en-70-w88.html (Out of stock there, it’s on ebay right now but might not be by the time you read this, I bought mine from them like a year ago...)

JAM Project theme collection (SRW @ Gaiden - SRW Z)

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-8l-49-en-70-33of.html



Yeah, I knew some of those but wasn't sure about who was and wasn't in Alpha since I've never had access to any modded or Japanese Playstations and thus am mostly versed only in the Nintendo side of the equation since their systems are so import friendly and Playstations are not. XD


My first Playstation 2 was a Japanese one because I wanted to play SRW (and a few others) more than I wanted to play most of the English games. At this point I have every PS2 SRW except for MX (and Scramble Commander but I haven’t really enjoyed playing a RTS in years except Sins of a Solar Empire).

On the PSOne I've got the Classic timeline collection (srw2, 3 and one of the Masou Kishin ones but I can't recall which one it is, EX I think) (I have a feeling that one of the songs on that list ^ that I couldn't remember where it was from was the menu theme from this game) SRW Alpha and Alpha Gaiden ...I think that's it. The only other PSOne game I want is SRW F Final (SRW4). I've only got two of the GBA games (OG1 and 2) but I got the PSP version of Advance and two of the three NDS games as well as two versions (American and Japanese) of SRW:OG: Endless Frontier.

And despite all of that not even I could stomach the $25/episode price tag on Bandai's US release of SRW OG Divine Wars. Did they sell those to anyone?

I do however own something a little bit special - you'll notice that, even though I've got some of the oldest games they're all the PS remake versions except for...









And now for everyone else here's a couple of fun movies! XD


I'd actually recommend that everyone who hasn't seen the OVA or first OG anime or played either of the games doesn't watch this video it'll make what's bound to be an awesome episode later on seem even better (by being a surprise)

For those who have or who don't care about the surprise, here's a little something from a 1996 game called Shin Super Robot Wars

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Tyrfing wrote:
It was also revealed in OG1 that Ingram wasn't simply an enemy alien - in fact none of the aliens that attacked earth were Balmarians (the Aerogators true identity is the fifth (?) Ze Balmary Imperial Galactic Frontier Inspection Fleet) all of their soldiers were in fact captive humans. And Ingram was a captive... something else. A Time Diver. I don't think it's ever made entirely clear what a Time Diver is (in English anyway) but I always thought of him a Time Lord (kinda) it's made clear that he has a mission (to put right what once went wrong perhaps?) and that his capture has interfered with this mission but he's under Balmarian control now and only has a limited amount of free will. Which is why he created the SRX team - to set him free even if it means his death.


Nope, not even close. Ingram (and Viletta, too,) is a clone of Juses Gozzo, the Balmar scientist who masterminded the Balmar invasion (as well as its failure, which was his intent in leaving a clone of himself in charge,) creator of Judecca, and the Crossgate Paradigm System (players of Endless Frontier might recognize the name, even though there is no Balmar in it.) Ingram and Viletta are the only Balmarians in OG thus far. But the normal Balmar forces in Alpha are mass-produced clones (of Balmar origin.)

There was nothing specifically remarkable about Ingram before Juses created the unit Astranagant, based on data gleaned from Ingram's time as a mole within the Earthling forces. Astranagant is built using a combination of the best technology and magic of Earth, Balmar and La Gias, and is the arbiter of cosmic balance for all universes. When the Alpha universe's Ingram became the pilot of Astranagant, he became the "Time Diver," the instrument of cosmic will.

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