First  Prev  1  2  3  4  Next  Last
Why should I find any form of comedy worth anything?
Posted 11/26/10 , edited 11/26/10
Can a joke feed those who are starving to death? No. Then it doesn't provide social justice because it's an unessential want, not a social need. Furthermore, something only became universally "funny" when it's objectionably "wrong". Which is how descriptive humor like sarcasm is funny in and of itself.

For example:
That was an original punchline by yours truly, and when my source material is the entire humanity as a whole, I'll never run out of jokes to tell. So long as we ourselves as a whole to remain as stupid as we are now.

So you tell me, why should I as a philosopher find any form of comedy worth anything? When you just got a taste of my objective criticism. I find the human world of selfishness funny as heck, just by myself telling it like it is.
maffoo 
79818 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
35 / M / England
Offline
Posted 11/26/10
Comedy (and other forms of entertainment) are worth something because they add something to life. Without such things, we would be surviving rather than living.

Comedians (and again other entertainers) can also use humour to draw attention to important social issues, and to make people think, in a way that dry facts and figures cannot.
Posted 11/26/10 , edited 11/26/10

maffoo wrote:

Comedy (and other forms of entertainment) are worth something because they add something to life. Without such things, we would be surviving rather than living.

Comedians (and again other entertainers) can also use humour to draw attention to important social issues, and to make people think, in a way that dry facts and figures cannot.
Then they can be on part as educators and influential individuals, of that I can generate moral wroth using Aristotle's Virtue Ethic theory.

However, I don't think the likes of Jackass nor douchebags deserve the same moral worth as Robin Williams in Patch Adams. As a matter of fact, I think it's wrong that they're even being paid to do whatever that they do, while they called the whole thing making a "living".
Posted 11/27/10 , edited 11/27/10

tarakelly wrote:

. I find the human world of selfishness funny as heck, just by myself telling it like it is. Boy if your not a lunatic, your so far left you make a communist blush.
There's no point to try making a propaganda machine like yourself to laugh, when machines don't have a sense of humor nor life. Politic is death for the likes of you.[/sarcasm]

How entertainment is morally worthless? When authoritarians like you disguised bullying by yourself calling it entertaining.
55941 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
59 / F / Midwest, rural Am...
Offline
Posted 11/27/10
I'm actually confused by your opening premise; which part of it is meant to be the sarcasm? Yeah, I admit, I usually miss the tree because the forest is in my way, so I sometimes need a detailed lesson written out on the chalkboard.

Much of the premise, as it's written, is lost to me through the differences in the connotations & denotations of the words used.
Dictionary: -joke- -noun,1. something said or done to excite a laugh; something witty or sportive; jest; witticism. 2. something done or said in sport & not seriously. 3. a laughingstock, as he is a joke. -verb intransitive, to do something as a joke; to be merry; to jest. -verb transitive, to make merry with; to rally; banter; as, to joke with a companion.

By these definitions, I'm at a loss as to how a joke relates to feeding the starving or becomes a means for social justice. All too often the stoic attitudes of justice preclude elements or introductions of humor into an argument. Also, would anyone expect a joke to be able to supply or provide sources of nutrition to the body? Surely, it could be argued a joke could provide a source of hilarity as a necessary need for the health of one's mind's stability.

---- something only became universally "funny" when it's objectionably "wrong" ----
Might I assume this quoted statement refers to the sophomoric types of humor common in the example you gave with Jackass? I personally find no entertainment value in it & find it void of true humor.

Would it bother you if I asked you to explain: --" Why should I find any form of comedy worth anything?" as your opening premise further? I think I've been confused by the addition of the sarcasm amidst the serious query.
15352 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
24 / F / Insert Tampon Here.
Offline
Posted 11/27/10
Humor,like farmbird says, is made to excite someone, not necessarily a laugh I believe. As you said, something maybe funny even though it's wrong, but due to who ever is entertained by it. I adore watching the horror films with grotesque images because it humors me; It's humoring to me, but its wrong--which makes me, in the words of someone who doesn't know me--disgusing and vile.

Back on point, i agree. Watching the selfishness of humans is not only entertaining but it can be quite an epiphany (for my tiny brain that is). Your criticism is truly entertaining (refering back to the day I first met you) because you support yourself like brick and you bite like a komodo dragon--which is truly admiring. When you bite your victim, I laugh.

So, I suppose, that maybe there really isn't a reason to find comedy in anything because maybe it's not humoring to you (by your "standards") but for others, who might lack insight, see things as they want to see them. You can find comedy in anything, Dom, its your choice if you so chose to be entertained by it.
Posted 11/27/10

farmbird wrote:

I'm actually confused by your opening premise; which part of it is meant to be the sarcasm? Yeah, I admit, I usually miss the tree because the forest is in my way, so I sometimes need a detailed lesson written out on the chalkboard.

Much of the premise, as it's written, is lost to me through the differences in the connotations & denotations of the words used.
Dictionary: -joke- -noun,1. something said or done to excite a laugh; something witty or sportive; jest; witticism. 2. something done or said in sport & not seriously. 3. a laughingstock, as he is a joke. -verb intransitive, to do something as a joke; to be merry; to jest. -verb transitive, to make merry with; to rally; banter; as, to joke with a companion.

By these definitions, I'm at a loss as to how a joke relates to feeding the starving or becomes a means for social justice. All too often the stoic attitudes of justice preclude elements or introductions of humor into an argument. Also, would anyone expect a joke to be able to supply or provide sources of nutrition to the body? Surely, it could be argued a joke could provide a source of hilarity as a necessary need for the health of one's mind's stability.

---- something only became universally "funny" when it's objectionably "wrong" ----
Might I assume this quoted statement refers to the sophomoric types of humor common in the example you gave with Jackass? I personally find no entertainment value in it & find it void of true humor.

Would it bother you if I asked you to explain: --" Why should I find any form of comedy worth anything?" as your opening premise further? I think I've been confused by the addition of the sarcasm amidst the serious query.
It's not so easy to look for a silver-lining in something as commonly accepted as a joke, is it now? And that's the first step for me to deconstruct the concept of a joke, in order to reapply it back into the civil society as something that can be used to indicate just what should be the morally right thing to do. When I think crude humor/comedy/entertainment is reverse psychology for those who're suffering from narcissistic personality disorder(NPD).

The truth is, lately I've been chatting with some young adults who are for a lack of better words, just so full of themselves. And since human nature is nurture in sociology, I've to come up with an explanation as to how they are socializing each other into this role in the first place. So I come up with what they seen as just them joking among themselves as their social norms. In other words, they believed the lies that they kept telling to themselves and each other, while they're drunk in their own celebration of eluding their world.


PhoungSeppuku wrote:

Humor,like farmbird says, is made to excite someone, not necessarily a laugh I believe. As you said, something maybe funny even though it's wrong, but due to who ever is entertained by it. I adore watching the horror films with grotesque images because it humors me; It's humoring to me, but its wrong--which makes me, in the words of someone who doesn't know me--disgusing and vile.

Back on point, i agree. Watching the selfishness of humans is not only entertaining but it can be quite an epiphany (for my tiny brain that is). Your criticism is truly entertaining (refering back to the day I first met you) because you support yourself like brick and you bite like a komodo dragon--which is truly admiring. When you bite your victim, I laugh.

So, I suppose, that maybe there really isn't a reason to find comedy in anything because maybe it's not humoring to you (by your "standards") but for others, who might lack insight, see things as they want to see them. You can find comedy in anything, Dom, its your choice if you so chose to be entertained by it.
But I think to those who are suffering from NPD, crude humor is habituated into themselves by their peers. It's not a choice to them when they're acting out of reflex, because they were socialized into this.
15352 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
24 / F / Insert Tampon Here.
Offline
Posted 11/27/10

DomFortress wrote:



Golly I hope i'm not full of myself Dx Because then that would make me a hypocrite =\ and I might agree with you, if that is what these children have grown up with, then it's possible to consider them lost causes because in most cases, it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks, especially with personality disorder. Out of curiosity, why are you talking to "self indulged" adolescences anyway (If I'm one of them, please don't feel obligated to talk to me >_>)?
Posted 11/28/10

PhoungSeppuku wrote:


DomFortress wrote:



Golly I hope i'm not full of myself Dx Because then that would make me a hypocrite =\ and I might agree with you, if that is what these children have grown up with, then it's possible to consider them lost causes because in most cases, it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks, especially with personality disorder. Out of curiosity, why are you talking to "self indulged" adolescences anyway (If I'm one of them, please don't feel obligated to talk to me >_>)?
Because they are a part of what's objectively wrong with the greater society as a whole. Observe.

This was from a Facebook commentary that I was in regarding this public message from Pixar, every individuals with the exception of myself are at least 19 years of age or older:
Of course I failed as a sociologist by myself not being an impartial observer. But just as they have no intention of themselves listening, I've no obligation of myself helping them feel better about themselves. So I remained impartial as justice. BTW, there are three of them who I'm associate with in real life, while one of them is who I consider as a close friend of mine.
2106 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
26 / M / Guess
Offline
Posted 11/28/10
Comedy is an excellent tool to expose the absurdity of ourselves, our society, and our life, allowing us to confront what we do not wish to see, instead of with the scorn's bitter, the laughter of its absurdity.

15352 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
24 / F / Insert Tampon Here.
Offline
Posted 11/28/10

DomFortress wrote:


PhoungSeppuku wrote:


DomFortress wrote:



Golly I hope i'm not full of myself Dx Because then that would make me a hypocrite =\ and I might agree with you, if that is what these children have grown up with, then it's possible to consider them lost causes because in most cases, it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks, especially with personality disorder. Out of curiosity, why are you talking to "self indulged" adolescences anyway (If I'm one of them, please don't feel obligated to talk to me >_>)?
Because they are a part of what's objectively wrong with the greater society as a whole. Observe.

This was from a Facebook commentary that I was in regarding this public message from Pixar, every individuals with the exception of myself are at least 19 years of age or older:
Of course I failed as a sociologist by myself not being an impartial observer. But just as they have no intention of themselves listening, I've no obligation of myself helping them feel better about themselves. So I remained impartial as justice. BTW, there are three of them who I'm associate with in real life, while one of them is who I consider as a close friend of mine.


Well, Dom. You did try to tell them their "wrongs". I understand somewhat of why you posted this forum. And I don't understand how you are grammatically incorrect when you write; I understand you perfectly fine (i have to google some words but its all good). >_> Some people are going to be ignorant. I feel bad because the argument was sort of pointless and nothing was learned from it. =( You did try to tell them but they instead, called you a douche bag and call the conversation an argument, thus heating things up. At the start, all you did was point out something and it apparently pulled someone's trigger.

And I agree. I don't understand some peoples' humor in such situations. It's hard to school disobedient and stubborn children.
Posted 12/1/10
Yeah, those trolls are everywhere so wise up there Dom, cuz...trolls love to troll ...

but, back to comedic reasoning session...ding ding! the bell has rung.....

.....The first reason that laughter is so important is because it actually changes our body's chemistry for the better. Worry and stress on the other hand, also change our body's chemistry for the worst. It does not do anything about the problems at hand, except for creating health problems for you. Stress and worry harms the immune system, which protects you against illnesses and cancers. Healthy immune systems are a key for living a long and enjoyable life.

Cytokinins and interferon levels nearly double after a good dose of laughter. These are natural killer cells that are found in our body. The effects of doubling two chemicals in our body can last for as much is a week. If you listen to positive motivational tapes and peaceful music, you can experience the same result as laughing..if you cannot produce anything to 'make your day and give up a smile or two'....what about anime, this is the place, you know...LOL (whoops, there I go, laughing again.)

Anyway, Dear Dom,

Laughter reduces stress, which improves your immune system and impacts your health directly. Increased stress will cause you to get more colds, while putting you at a higher risk for cancer and heart disease. Stress damages your entire immune system, not just parts of it. If this is the case, you can imagine what stress does to your entire body. Keep your stress level lower by laughing! If Spongbob is your thing, by all means, cut loose..teehee.

Have you ever heard of cortisol? It is a stress hormone in our body that we produce too much of in today's society. High levels of cortisol can cause physical damage to the immune system. Laughing will prevent high levels of cortisol building up in your body.

Dude, you need to chillax!

Don't make me LOL now, it just MIGHT make me feel a whole hell of a lot better...and I am not talking about people afflicted by
narcisstic personality disorder or /dumbchit/JackAss.etc...No,
I speak of the art of laughter, it's a dose of 'good stuff' and you need to find something to tickle your poor unused funny bone.

Go rent Airplane, now that outta do it!..."Seriously, don't call me Shirley!"

See ya!
Posted 12/1/10

XxSixpencexX wrote:

Yeah, those trolls are everywhere so wise up there Dom, cuz...trolls love to troll ...

but, back to comedic reasoning session...ding ding! the bell has rung.....

.....The first reason that laughter is so important is because it actually changes our body's chemistry for the better. Worry and stress on the other hand, also change our body's chemistry for the worst. It does not do anything about the problems at hand, except for creating health problems for you. Stress and worry harms the immune system, which protects you against illnesses and cancers. Healthy immune systems are a key for living a long and enjoyable life.

Cytokinins and interferon levels nearly double after a good dose of laughter. These are natural killer cells that are found in our body. The effects of doubling two chemicals in our body can last for as much is a week. If you listen to positive motivational tapes and peaceful music, you can experience the same result as laughing..if you cannot produce anything to 'make your day and give up a smile or two'....what about anime, this is the place, you know...LOL (whoops, there I go, laughing again.)

Anyway, Dear Dom,

Laughter reduces stress, which improves your immune system and impacts your health directly. Increased stress will cause you to get more colds, while putting you at a higher risk for cancer and heart disease. Stress damages your entire immune system, not just parts of it. If this is the case, you can imagine what stress does to your entire body. Keep your stress level lower by laughing! If Spongbob is your thing, by all means, cut loose..teehee.

Have you ever heard of cortisol? It is a stress hormone in our body that we produce too much of in today's society. High levels of cortisol can cause physical damage to the immune system. Laughing will prevent high levels of cortisol building up in your body.

Dude, you need to chillax!

Don't make me LOL now, it just MIGHT make me feel a whole hell of a lot better...and I am not talking about people afflicted by
narcisstic personality disorder or /dumbchit/JackAss.etc...No,
I speak of the art of laughter, it's a dose of 'good stuff' and you need to find something to tickle your poor unused funny bone.

Go rent Airplane, now that outta do it!..."Seriously, don't call me Shirley!"


See ya!
That's funny/wrong, when the human immune system is directly related to their metabolism. Which is why my high intensity exercise program combined with proper stress management such as hydrotherapy, can have better result than yourself laughing like a lunatic.

So get off your uncritically consumerist mindset, 'less you're a laughing clown with no sense of self-worth nor knowledge regarding happiness as a fuzzy logic.
Posted 12/1/10
sigh..I love you too Dom.

Ouch.

I can see you are in no mood for me, the laughing clown girl..

but I tried,

it seems all you want to do is argue and I can do that quite well, but I won't,

you are too sad.

If I see Puck in my Midsummer's Night Dream I will tell him, Dom said Hey, Whatttsup!

LOL

ps...you cannot stop world hunger with either laughter or downright grumpiness...you just make yourself sound like a cranky old man
who sat on a pomogranate...

Seriously. (Don't call me Shirley)

4982 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
23 / F / ireland
Offline
Posted 12/1/10
It can brighten up a dull day.Plus on the whole exercise/stress thing its easier than running about or swimming.It also seems to be a social thing,

Like I've noticed that people only seem to laugh at funny things when their with others,but if alone you don't really laugh as much,even if you find something funny.I've also noticed that whenever something funny happens on TV peple look about to see if others are lauging too.

Or is it just the weirdos I hang about with?
First  Prev  1  2  3  4  Next  Last
You must be logged in to post.