Liu Xiaobo and the Nobel Prize
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While it is unjust that he is imprisioned for eleven years due to what he says, watching the whole farce that has become the awarding of the Nobel Prize, I can't help but think, what has he done to merit the prize? There are many political dissidents in China, some with less radical ideas, and some with more radical, sensible, and innovative Ideas than Mr Liu. He is one in a million, a practical nobody- why then is he given the prize? There are Rosseaus, Voltaires, and Lockes among the persecuted intellectuals in China, offering geniunely new political thoughts, contributing to innovation in democracy in China, but, they decided to give the prize to someone who merely said thus: "We should adopt the western system and do away with China's reigme", which is hardly an innovative idea. I believe that the whole charade now only serves to push their political views, giving an award to Mr Obama and Mr Liu, not because of anything they did, but because they wish to spite their enemies, Mr Obama to say 'Fuck you' to Bush and Co., and Mr Liu to say 'Fuck you' to China. But, enough of my opinion, what are yours?
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China needs to change. Go on the internet, go read articles and you'll find that the Communist Chinese are the worst of the worst, save for North Korea's Kim Jong Il and their founder, Kim Il Suk, Jong's father. Communism is completely unjust and putting the power in the hands of the few is asking for disaster and begging for slavery of the masses. Even though you aren't in chains, you are still a slave to the system. the government sets everything and you'll do it by their book, or become imprisoned, defamed, or worse, executed. I mean, when workers in factories are KILLING THEMSELVES because work conditions are that bad, something is horribly wrong. He didn't just say something, he wrote a very compelling essay about the troubles the Chinese face due to their government's overpowering control and what needs to be done to help them. The Communists must go. They suppress the arts, imagination, and the human spirit to keep their power. I mean, they jailed all these intellectuals with great ideas, didn't they? If China was a democracy, they'd have a better time of it. The only reason our country is in such dire straights is because of the fools in office. The principles of America are sound and if we had the Fair Tax and the government adhered to the Constitution absolutely, which they don't, we'd have a better time of it and we'd be able to afford health care without the government coming in and regulating everything to death and forcing universal health care onto us. And they DID force it onto us, don't be blinded. If China was a full free democracy, I'd be compelled to go live there, or at least vacation there. As of right now, I wouldn't set foot in China even if they begged me.
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EmeraldKnight80 wrote:

China needs to change. Go on the internet, go read articles and you'll find that the Communist Chinese are the worst of the worst, save for North Korea's Kim Jong Il and their founder, Kim Il Suk, Jong's father. Communism is completely unjust and putting the power in the hands of the few is asking for disaster and begging for slavery of the masses. Even though you aren't in chains, you are still a slave to the system. the government sets everything and you'll do it by their book, or become imprisoned, defamed, or worse, executed. I mean, when workers in factories are KILLING THEMSELVES because work conditions are that bad, something is horribly wrong. He didn't just say something, he wrote a very compelling essay about the troubles the Chinese face due to their government's overpowering control and what needs to be done to help them. The Communists must go. They suppress the arts, imagination, and the human spirit to keep their power. I mean, they jailed all these intellectuals with great ideas, didn't they? If China was a democracy, they'd have a better time of it. The only reason our country is in such dire straights is because of the fools in office. The principles of America are sound and if we had the Fair Tax and the government adhered to the Constitution absolutely, which they don't, we'd have a better time of it and we'd be able to afford health care without the government coming in and regulating everything to death and forcing universal health care onto us. And they DID force it onto us, don't be blinded. If China was a full free democracy, I'd be compelled to go live there, or at least vacation there. As of right now, I wouldn't set foot in China even if they begged me.


1. Obviously there are lots of Flaws with the current Chinese Government, and there are lots of beauties in it- though the flaws obviously outweigh any beauty. The Internet is not a engine of unbias articles, and every article was writ by a human hand, subject to his bias. You cannot judge a country by what the internet says about it. While I am all for a more democratic China, you can't say it is the worst after N. Korea- I mean, there are insane dicatorships in many other countries that would make China seem heavenly (well, as heavenly as China can be).

2. Obviously the Chinese Government needs to change- they have progress remarkably from the discredited system of Communism to Capitalism, and what is left is to give people political freedom. Taiwan and South Korea were horribly fascist until relitively recent times, and so was Japan in WWII, but they have changed for the better in various ways- Japan because we imposed a system upon them and S. Korea and Taiwan, I think, peacefully. The question now becomes how would the Mainland Chinese Government change from an autocratic government to a democratic government? Of course, Democracy is not an entirely sound or feasible system either in China at the moment, I confess- the populance is still mainly rustic and uneducated (though the State-run schools do not help a jot in expanding their horizon)America, by contrast, is relatively educated compared to China, and still we elect horrible unqualified people like President Obama and Senator McCain. There is also no history of democracy in China- France had no history of democracy prior, and it reverted several times to an autocratic state, a monarch, another monarch, another highly centralised state, to the present state, which, I read, has power concentrated to the central government still, though bearably and democratically so. Thus, the road to democracy should be gradual, bring the problem, can we trust the CCP to slowly relinquish its power. Probably not, but an entire nation cannot be unfree too long before they throw out their oppressors- they brought the Communist to power that way, they sure as hell can kick them out in the same manner.

3. Every country, at one point, in their progress, have jailed those who disagree, France did so in their Terror, Britain countless times, and we, Americans, did so to the Tories, whose abuse is well recorded. China does so also, but, just as we cannot vindicate ourselves from these actions, neither can China.

4. We cannot adhere to the the Consitution in and of itself because was made to be admended- that is because the founders, in one spark of wisedom out of many, realised that a paper stichted together by compromises cannot and would not be pernament. That is why they added provision for it to change. The Bill of Rights, a seperate document from the Consitution that guarantees individual rights as oppose to how the government operates, has been admended.

5. Also, the Consitution is, by its nature, open to interpretation- for example, we have no right to privacy, but it has been interpreted that way during the '50s, a strict interpretation would say otherwise.
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A very well-educated response! You are correct. Unfortunately, a strict adherence to the Constitution does not guarantee the right to privacy and I find that sad. I believe one does have that right and should not have to bear authorities monitoring their every move. However, the amendments made to it in recent years have been wholly UnConstitutional, brought upon us by an increasingly belligerent Federal Government.

The way Russia turned to democracy in '91 should not be the model by which China changes (though Russia has a history for using the "Kick-in the Door" method). To do so would decimate their economy and leave their Government and people scrambling to clean things up. "In Everything, Time" is a little saying I have, and with that in mind, a slower, more thought-out process to political freedom is required in this case. When they had "democracy" during the first part of the 20th century, those in power abused it, making it look, to the people, like that freedom only brought corruption and assanine foreigners who had no respect for them. Thus, Mao and his Communists looked appealing because they were making claims to be bringing that respect to the people: The Cultural Revolution.

And yes, they won't stand for too much more before they decide to kick the bums in power, out. I hope that day comes sooner than later.
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I'd be compelled to go live there, or at least vacation there. As of right now, I wouldn't set foot in China even if they begged me.
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Posted 4/2/12 , edited 4/2/12
I'd be compelled to go live there, or at least vacation there.
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Posted 4/7/12
As of right now, I wouldn't set foot in China even if they begged me.
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Posted 4/8/12 , edited 4/8/12
A very well-educated response! You are correct.
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My English is not so good, but still want to say a few words. China has not you say so hopeless, but really there exist a lot of problems, has its historical and practical reasons, like everyone has shortcomings. Do you have any weaknesses? And Your country just has no shortcomings,isn't it? Chinese youth have consciousness to the relevant problems, and are to do their best to change. If you are free, welcome to China, maybe you'll have new discovery, not just for the western media as.
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