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Guy Kills Himself After Breakup
Posted 12/12/10

Chitaka wrote:

It doesn't say that, my point is that since he's a human being and since his was a human life, wether or not he was an abusive boyfriend is irrelevant. He didn't kill anyone like Hitler in your example. Plus, what ever happened to 'Innocent until proven guilty' its not the other way around, can you proove he was an abusive boyfriend. Just for the simple fact that he was a human being is why he deserves sympathy.


My point wasn't that he was abusive.
It was that you cannot be sure what kind of a person he was.
I never once stated that was was guilty of being abusive.

Yes, he deserves sympathy.
But should I feel sorry for him after he ruins his ex-girlfriends life?
No.
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Posted 12/12/10 , edited 12/12/10
"Do not smell it" (talking about the strongest poison a poison seller has)
"Is there anything more poisonous?"
"Yes, the human heart,"-The black scorpion (i may not have it word for word but that is what it says)

EDIT: the reason the poison dealer said not to smell it was because it was so poisonous smelling it would kill you
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Posted 12/12/10 , edited 12/12/10

Chitaka wrote:

It doesn't say that, my point is that since he's a human being and since his was a human life, wether or not he was an abusive boyfriend is irrelevant. He didn't kill anyone like Hitler in your example. Plus, what ever happened to 'Innocent until proven guilty' its not the other way around, can you proove he was an abusive boyfriend. Just for the simple fact that he was a human being is why he deserves sympathy.


Exactly what I would have said Chitaka when he asked if I was a Hitler/Columbine supporter.
That was an OTT example. When I wrote that post I was obviously thinking about more common people that committ suicide daily. Not murderers. Though it is my fault for not specifying that.
I said YOU and I don't know what really happened. Goes back to Chitaka's point. I specifically mentioned I don't respect people that committ suicide, I mentioned it was cowardly and hurtful to the ones around him, but I won't speak ill of them calling them names, especially "people in more common situations that don't involve the murder of others". You obviously missed my point.
Yes Gheydeer you are entitled to your own opinions but must you really bash someone to this extent who committed suicide in situation where we do know murder didn't take place?
If you cannot express any sympathy, because I don't exactly have a whole lot for this case I at least will/can acknowledge he is not someone we know that is terrible enough to be subjected to such words like Hitler or Dylan and Eric of Columbine.
Now, I'm debating this calmly and again it was my fault to specify as far as to how far my sympathies extend to, but still I'm no supporter of murderers, rapists and other heinous crimes. I'm not big of a supporter for people that committ suicide solely but I have a bit more sympathy to understand and not throw salt when it is not needed. ^^ But I wouldn't have an ounce for any positive feelings of sort for motives behind murder and rape.
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Posted 12/12/10
Now that's just....sad.
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Posted 12/12/10

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Chitaka wrote:

It doesn't say that, my point is that since he's a human being and since his was a human life, wether or not he was an abusive boyfriend is irrelevant. He didn't kill anyone like Hitler in your example. Plus, what ever happened to 'Innocent until proven guilty' its not the other way around, can you proove he was an abusive boyfriend. Just for the simple fact that he was a human being is why he deserves sympathy.


My point wasn't that he was abusive.
It was that you cannot be sure what kind of a person he was.
I never once stated that was was guilty of being abusive.

Yes, he deserves sympathy.
But should I feel sorry for him after he ruins his ex-girlfriends life?
No.


"Yes, he deserves sympathy.
But should I feel sorry for him after he ruins his ex-girlfriends life?"

This part I can understand what you mean.
Posted 12/12/10
Scary. No comment.
RIP dude, feel bad for you.
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Posted 12/12/10
There is no excuse for suicide. I don't care what the reasons are. I have been to hell,shook the devils hand and came back, I still want to go on. I have had long relationships that ended. After many years of torment you eventually get over it. If that guy was man enough he could of asked his ex what he did wrong. There is always chances of getting that person back. Suicide is never the answer. He also could of found a another women. There is so many women in this world. I know you never forget the one you love and always love. What I am saying is that there might always be someone better than the person you had. If you are strong enough then you will move on. I am a very strong willed spirit and that is what that guy needed. All suicide does is add more hate to the fuel. It is stupid. If that is your last hope of ending this I suggest talking to someone. Facebook isn't really a good place to talk too much sometimes. Unless it is your closest friends I highly don't recommend it. Talk to people like psychiatrists always help. There is always people to help if you seek it.
Posted 12/12/10
Reminds me of the scene/quote of Rush Hour 2... "Damn! He ain't gonna be in Rush Hour 3!"
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He killed himself, how is that misfortune when someone kills themself? We all our accountable for our own accords and they are regardless of the scenario or any occurence which pushed us toward anything, ultimately we make the end decision irrelevant from the past. We are always capable even moments past that last second to still say Yes or No regardless of any previous incident. So he intentionally and completely made that choice to kill himself. The girl leaving him, yes misfortunate; him killing himself, not misfortune. Obviously everyone is supportive of the family mainly through prayer, other than that not really. What's going on right here, right now is speculation of him and what he did. The family/friends, of course we all pity and feel for them.

He's already dead, he cannot commit suicide twice. You cant hurt someone who's already dead, if they're living yes you give them every ounce of your love, but please see the reality that he-is-dead. He had support, yet he still intended on suicide. He did not deserve to die, we did not make that decision, he made it himself. Yes there are people who have been in terrible situations, unfathomable stress on every aspect of being alive. But to end your life over it, well sorry to say but it's all in vain then, every single bit and piece of it falls to vain. One guy/girl can end it all from little problems or all the problems of the world, but if they choose that route they failed, period. So do we say goodjob, you tried hard? This isn't a race, which you can start again. If this were a race, it's clearly a race where we depend on one another, literally tied to one another. A one-time race, and when a person drops out like that, we all get pulled back. So why do you think people are like "fucking idiot" and laughing at him, because he just made it worse for everyone and maybe pulled someone back enough to where they might drop out too. Thats why, because theres no getting up for him, no getting back in, and he just made it much more difficult for many people if not ended it for some. So I say YES, I have no care in the world for him now. Nobody should, his life is over, he destroyed everything he had, purposely.

Its very apparent that you're kind-hearted and thats awesome, but don't forget there's a world out there, a cruel hard reality that needs to be acknowledged.
We make our own decisions, off our own will, regardless of any past happening.
Cursing the dead, sympathy for the dead, laughing at the dead, it's all nothing, you're doing it at a piece of meat that no longer has life in it. Is the life in heaven, hell, non-existant? We don't know(thought I make my own assumption of that) but the life that was lived, the life that has now ended, is surely over and now does not have any meaning left in this plane of existance. Again, we each are accountable for our own decisions/actions.

Quick info about me: I personally know 2 people who've committed suicide, 2 of my family members have been murdered(not within my household), 4 of them died of natural causes. I took a paramedic class where I worked in a hospital and have had person die on me, have seen people who've attempted suicide. With that all said, I know death fairly well, and its not nice at all, and I dont want anyones pity either. Its just called reality. I am a very loving person and will go to the extremes for anyone. I would have even for him if I knew him and he hadnt done such a thing. I hope everyone in the world has all the love for his family/friends, but for him? I have none, but hey, if people want to care for him, go on ahead I'm not going to sway or let it effect me. Thank you.







Misfortune for his family and friends and how lonely he must have felt is what I was going for.
Hmm, are you debating with me? Because many of your points are what I agree with. I was mostly defending him from the people that were attacking him saying he deserved death.
I specifically mentioned that suicide itself I don't support, it's cowardly and hurtful to others. I should have specified a bit more on that because I have...? I said I don't respect people that throw their lives away like that but I also think it is unnecessary to "laugh" at this.
I haven't forgotten there's a cruel world out there, I have experienced some harsh cruelty of the world myself like you have, I'm sorry. I wouldn't forget that. I guess I came off as a super pro-defender (bit redundant but I can't think of the term right now but I am trying my best to be neutral), my bad because in reality I'm a cynic; more cynical that Dr. House but when it comes to certain topics I have more of an input. I try to be a bit of both sides. Guess this sorta goes back to how we all don't really know each other.
But I have respect enough for the dead him regardless whether spirits don't or do live on to not be cheering. This is a situation that should have never occured in the first place; I don't see a reason to be happy about it and saying he deserved it. I'm glad to see you aren't so one-sided about that.
Whether you "love" him or not, I'm not advocating we all have to love him and for what he did and such (because honestly I don't praise any of it if I haven't already mentioned for what seems like the 10th time...); what I was advocating is that some of the people here didn't have to bash him to such a large extent. That was the main point of my former rant.
Anyways, I appreciate you taking the time for your input.
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Posted 12/12/10

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GheyDeer wrote:

Point is, this faggot puts on a big show about how he's doing this for the girl who left this conceited fucker.

Yet, he knows that her memory of him committing suicide will haunt her for the rest of his life.
Pretty much giving her psychological problems, and fucking up any future relationships she may have.
Her friends will also ostracize her, blaming his death on her.

Fuck this little pansy.

Everyone better fucking laugh at him like he predicted, or you're just helping him ruin the girls life.

Fucking laugh.


I don't know why you should laugh at this no matter what kind death it is, it is always serious and shouldn't be taken laughter even though there are different degrees of death it should always be taken in consideration. I mean his heart was broken to the extent that he wanted to suicide ever think about that. Why don't you think about any loved ones that died? Or if you didn't have any loved ones died think about seriously a loved one dieing in the future? Wouldn't you be sad?


Well, I don't love this asshole, so my opinion isn't clouded.

His heart was so broken that he wanted to fuck up his ex's life even after death?

I would have had more sympathy for him if he didn't leave a note assigning blame for his death.

And none of my loved ones died trying to fuck everyone over.


I didn't say that if you have any loved ones that fucked everyone over. What i'm saying is that wouldn't you be sad if someone dies. No matter how funny a death is it shouldn't be taken like this behavior by laughing at a funeral, it is inappropriate. Lets say the guy is a part of your family and was a nice guy unlike what you think as he made this for a one time thing or this guy could be a evil guy writing this note..... You would be sad right. In the end death is never funny because its someones life taken away. Or you just don't know how serious death is and never had a death that took a loved one from you.

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Posted 12/12/10
seriously....he is stupid. Just move on it would have been much better than killing yourself.
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Posted 12/12/10

Chitaka wrote:

It doesn't say that, my point is that since he's a human being and since his was a human life, wether or not he was an abusive boyfriend is irrelevant. He didn't kill anyone like Hitler in your example. Plus, what ever happened to 'Innocent until proven guilty' its not the other way around, can you proove he was an abusive boyfriend. Just for the simple fact that he was a human being is why he deserves sympathy.


"Innocent until proven guilty" He's dead, guilty or innocent doesn't matter now. Whether he did or didnt as you said is also irrelevant.
I'm saying this one last time then dropping this.
He killed himself; willing, purposely, intentionally. Why have sympathy for something someone who chose to do and knew what they were doing and what would happen. His past and all that happened to him doesn't matter since we humans always have the decision to say Yes or No to anything at any point in time. He selfishly chose death, and he accomplished his will. No need for sympathy. If anything it's the opposite... Since he destroyed what life he had, and caused great havoc in the lives of everyone around him, why would you want to give sympathy to someone who obviously will never make up for it, who obviously knew what he was doing but cared for no one but himself? How can you do that.
You still can do so though and have every right to, but I don't understand why anyone would want to, nor do I understand the full and thorough logic, even feeling, behind that kind of motive.
Posted 12/12/10

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GheyDeer wrote:


airmaster2000 wrote:


GheyDeer wrote:

Point is, this faggot puts on a big show about how he's doing this for the girl who left this conceited fucker.

Yet, he knows that her memory of him committing suicide will haunt her for the rest of his life.
Pretty much giving her psychological problems, and fucking up any future relationships she may have.
Her friends will also ostracize her, blaming his death on her.

Fuck this little pansy.

Everyone better fucking laugh at him like he predicted, or you're just helping him ruin the girls life.

Fucking laugh.


I don't know why you should laugh at this no matter what kind death it is, it is always serious and shouldn't be taken laughter even though there are different degrees of death it should always be taken in consideration. I mean his heart was broken to the extent that he wanted to suicide ever think about that. Why don't you think about any loved ones that died? Or if you didn't have any loved ones died think about seriously a loved one dieing in the future? Wouldn't you be sad?


Well, I don't love this asshole, so my opinion isn't clouded.

His heart was so broken that he wanted to fuck up his ex's life even after death?

I would have had more sympathy for him if he didn't leave a note assigning blame for his death.

And none of my loved ones died trying to fuck everyone over.


I didn't say that if you have any loved ones that fucked everyone over. What i'm saying is that wouldn't you be sad if someone dies. No matter how funny a death is it shouldn't be taken like this behavior by laughing at a funeral, it is inappropriate. Lets say the guy is a part of your family and was a nice guy unlike what you think as he made this for a one time thing or this guy could be a evil guy writing this note..... You would be sad right. In the end death is never funny because its someones life taken away. Or you just don't know how serious death is and never had a death that took a loved one from you.


Yes I would be sad.

Laughing at his funeral would be inappropriate.
But we aren't at his funeral, are we?
We're on a forum .
We discuss.

Talking about how he died at the funeral would also be inappropriate too.
In fact, none of us should attend his funeral since we're strangers.
But that's just it.
We're not at his funeral.
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Posted 12/12/10 , edited 12/12/10

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Misfortune for his family and friends and how lonely he must have felt is what I was going for.
Hmm, are you debating with me? Because many of your points are what I agree with. I was mostly defending him from the people that were attacking him saying he deserved death.
I specifically mentioned that suicide itself I don't support, it's cowardly and hurtful to others. I should have specified a bit more on that because I have...? I said I don't respect people that throw their lives away like that but I also think it is unnecessary to "laugh" at this.
I haven't forgotten there's a cruel world out there, I have experienced some harsh cruelty of the world myself like you have, I'm sorry. I wouldn't forget that. I guess I came off as a super pro-defender (bit redundant but I can't think of the term right now but I am trying my best to be neutral), my bad because in reality I'm a cynic; more cynical that Dr. House but when it comes to certain topics I have more of an input. I try to be a bit of both sides. Guess this sorta goes back to how we all don't really know each other.
But I have respect enough for the dead him regardless whether spirits don't or do live on to not be cheering. This is a situation that should have never occured in the first place; I don't see a reason to be happy about it and saying he deserved it. I'm glad to see you aren't so one-sided about that.
Whether you "love" him or not, I'm not advocating we all have to love him and for what he did and such (because honestly I don't praise any of it if I haven't already mentioned for what seems like the 10th time...); what I was advocating is that some of the people here didn't have to bash him to such a large extent. That was the main point of my former rant.
Anyways, I appreciate you taking the time for your input.


Haha, I enjoy a good debate.

Oh okay, I think I'm getting more of the picture of what you're trying to get across. Mostly the confusion of reading everyones X-Large posts that things get mixed up hah, that upon going on no sleep heh.. It's not always good to be neutral, find truth and grasp it and be on its side alone.
When I read it, I personally thought it was funny lol yes it is something serious, but idk... It's just the whole going on facebook, making a big scene and the part where he said "people will probably laugh at this" and thats the part where I laughed lol.. Couldnt help it.
Eh, some people are very passionate when it comes to dislike.
And I appreciate your reply! As well hope I was never too blunt or rude... NOW I AM DONE WITH THIS!!! See ya'll on another topic!
Posted 12/12/10 , edited 12/12/10
Man I'd be pissed if that was my car.

and wow talk about terrible grammar, reading that crappy literacy made me very sad, as I felt my IQ slowly draining.

Glad he's gone.
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