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Winter 2011 Lineup: Saint Seiya: The Lost Canvas and Mitsudomoe 2
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You know what would be great?
A second season of Skip Beat -.-
And Saki...
I mean seriously, they pretty much left those two off as a cliffhanger.
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Nope rights are by country, not language.
When I said English rights, that was shorthand for English speaking territories, eg, MangaUK's tweet:

@spongbros That deal was done by #Starz for all English speaking territories and included TV rights for US too, which still earns $$$.
... obviously the Japanese licensor can divide up the world any way that they want to, and different licensors divide up the world differently. Dividing up by language territory is common because of the importance of derivative work in localizing anime to different languages. But its a way of grouping countries.

Now that you point it out, given the internet, actually doing it by language, as in the print world, would make more sense ... but as little as a decade ago, video was a very much bound into national distribution networks.

Because of the size of many of the Spanish speaking territory markets, its even more common to group all Spanish speaking territories together.


They might pay the other licensor to use their dub/ subs* if they don't want to make their own.
I don't know about subs (see below), that's a question to ask.


FUNi does get multi-country rights for some titles, definatley not everything though.
I never said they get multi-country rights for everything. Maybe I should have said "often" instead of "typically" ~ indeed Funimation in particular obviously gets as few territorial rights as they can, given that they do not have any distribution outside of North America, so the fact that they quite often sublicense is because of Japanese licensors that do not want to bother subdividing English speaking territories into separate markets.


If FUNi have UK or Au rights, the local distro (Manga or Madman) goes to them and discuss possible contract terms. If they look ok FUNi then talk to the Japanese licensor to see wether they're ok with Manga/Madman getting the distro licence. All three parties then get toghter to go over the contracts, Manga/Madman end up paying royalties straight to Japan (not just to FUNi). Assume this is because they're charged per copy sold (with a set minimum overall, payed advance) , so they need to keep all the sales numbers visible.
And remember that we are dealing with different cover prices in different currencies, with substantially different tax systems, so the Japanese do not want Funimation shuffling revenues around between different English speaking territories for strategic advantages. But in that scenario, both Funimation and the original licensor have the right to say no.


If FUNi don't have Au/UK rights distro goes straight to Japanese company. They then separately license the dub off FUNi.
I don't know how many Spanish speaking territory distributions are dubbed ~ last time I was in a Spanish speaking country was before I was following anime. Subtitled content in general is a larger share of Spanish territory markets than in the US.


*not sure if subs are always owned by the Japanese licensor (regardless of who made them), or if they default to them after a time. Dubs are part owned by who made them, due to being creative work, acting, directing etc. involved.
That depends upon the terms of the contract, with only the general playing field laid out by copyright law ~ both subs and dubs are derivative works, and so under copyright law require the consent of both original and derivative work creator. The consent of the original work creator is given in the contract, under the terms set out in the contract, and the consent of the derivative work creator is given when they are hired to do the work.

The difference between the two is in the market ~ a sub is taken for granted with a bid for international rights, while a dub is seen as an extra that increases royalty potential of the license, so it may be given special consideration in the normal contracts. Whether the subbing licensee controls the sub until the license expires, or just get usage rights to the sub until the license expires, I have no idea.
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Looking forward to more laughs with Mitsudomoe. Saint Seiya might be interesting, I'll check it out.
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MITSUDOMOE 2!!!!!!!! YAY. So funny! Thanks for getting this title again.
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Liking Mitsudomoe does not make me a pedophile
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i am amused by how Mitsuba's shirt says PIZZA on it.
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Thanks for getting TMS to allow you to play the recent St. Seiya OVAs. Could you see if they're also willing to bite on more Lupin specials, and Lupin in general? Pretty please.
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DAMMIT ALL NEW ANIME NOTAVIALABLE IN PHIPPINES MATHERFUCKER SO USELESS DAMMIT /SOB
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Cecilthedarkknight234 wrote:
you can always import dvd's and change the region on your computer/desktop to play them bluray is a different matter i do this i have huge import library from japan.


That does break copyright, it's just that customs won't stop grey goods (licensed but imported/ exported without permission, and overruns) you just aren't allowed to resell them. Not in the US so no protection by first sale doctrine here.
If you were doing so to resell them that would be just as illegal as selling bootlegs.
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Finally another good Shonen action series! I was starting to tire of the very girlish leanings of CR of late.
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Blad3101 wrote:

Here's hoping for IS: Infinite Stratos or Fractale. ;)

Fractale is part of the Noitamina block, so it will be simulcast by Funimation on Hulu. No real chance of getting it here.

Don't know about IS.

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saint seiya f@%k yeah.LOL
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Zensunni wrote:


Blad3101 wrote:

Here's hoping for IS: Infinite Stratos or Fractale. ;)

Fractale is part of the Noitamina block, so it will be simulcast by Funimation on Hulu. No real chance of getting it here.

Don't know about IS.


Fractale won't be here (at least it won't be among the simulcasts announced this week), but given that Hourou Musuko, another noitaminA title, was just announced as a Crunchyroll simulcast, apparently that is no longer a barrier.

IS: Infinite Stratos is very unlikely to be simulcast anywhere, for reasons I have previously discussed.

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reaper_g wrote:


Cecilthedarkknight234 wrote:
you can always import dvd's and change the region on your computer/desktop to play them bluray is a different matter i do this i have huge import library from japan.


That does break copyright, it's just that customs won't stop grey goods (licensed but imported/ exported without permission, and overruns) you just aren't allowed to resell them. Not in the US so no protection by first sale doctrine here.
If you were doing so to resell them that would be just as illegal as selling bootlegs.


i have no reason to re-sell to be honest, but yeah most people probably wouldn't care if you sold them other than funimation >_>
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llamaben wrote:


Assassinx89 wrote:

how come saint seiya does not have a release date?
It does, it's just not mentioned in this thread. 23 Feb 9:30am JST.



I meant the first season not the second....
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