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Does size really matter in a fight?
Posted 1/9/11

Katatonia999 wrote:


LosingOrbit wrote:

Stamina is another important factor in a fight. I remember my boxing instructor telling us that it's all about being able to last longer than your opponent. Speed and strength is basically useless if you're too tired to fight.

Either way, I don't believe size matters that much, but strength dose.


Then someone bends the rules and introduces a 12 gauge shotgun. All the training in the world ceases to be effective against burning lead, unless you have a gun yourself.



This is a thread about melee or unarmed combat, guns pwn but not everyone has a gun m'kay. Any dumbass can pull a trigger which is annoying as some people train for years.



Posted 1/9/11

Rina-San wrote:


Katatonia999 wrote:


LosingOrbit wrote:

Stamina is another important factor in a fight. I remember my boxing instructor telling us that it's all about being able to last longer than your opponent. Speed and strength is basically useless if you're too tired to fight.

Either way, I don't believe size matters that much, but strength dose.


Then someone bends the rules and introduces a 12 gauge shotgun. All the training in the world ceases to be effective against burning lead, unless you have a gun yourself.



This is a thread about melee or unarmed combat, guns pwn but not everyone has a gun m'kay. Any dumbass can pull a trigger which is annoying as some people train for years.





I dunno. Some triggers are complicated to the point of requiring technical expertize.
Posted 1/9/11

Katatonia999 wrote:


LosingOrbit wrote:


Katatonia999 wrote:


LosingOrbit wrote:

Stamina is another important factor in a fight. I remember my boxing instructor telling us that it's all about being able to last longer than your opponent. Speed and strength is basically useless if you're too tired to fight.

Either way, I don't believe size matters that much, but strength dose.


Then someone bends the rules and introduces a 12 gauge shotgun. All the training in the world ceases to be effective against burning lead, unless you have a gun yourself.


I'm speaking in terms of hand-to-hand combat, not guns.
But yeah, I get your point.


I wonder if bitch slapping is an applicable fighting style...


Well, you are still physically attacking someone if you bitch slap them.
Posted 1/9/11

LosingOrbit wrote:


Katatonia999 wrote:


LosingOrbit wrote:


Katatonia999 wrote:


LosingOrbit wrote:

Stamina is another important factor in a fight. I remember my boxing instructor telling us that it's all about being able to last longer than your opponent. Speed and strength is basically useless if you're too tired to fight.

Either way, I don't believe size matters that much, but strength dose.


Then someone bends the rules and introduces a 12 gauge shotgun. All the training in the world ceases to be effective against burning lead, unless you have a gun yourself.


I'm speaking in terms of hand-to-hand combat, not guns.
But yeah, I get your point.


I wonder if bitch slapping is an applicable fighting style...


Well, you are still physically attacking someone if you bitch slap them.


Then we must consider the amount of damage an open-handed strike can deal. If you are a sizable, African-American brood mother in the ghetto, the damage can be severe.
Posted 1/9/11


Then we must consider the amount of damage an open-handed strike can deal. If you are a sizable, African-American brood mother in the ghetto, the damage can be severe.

It would probably sting for awhile and your face would turn red, but it wouldn't leave that much damage.
I'm ignoring that last part.
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"size matters not."
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weight and strength definately are big factors but not everything, if someone who's 100 kgs (220lbs, 16 stone) lands a good kick to anyones head they're going down but if it's grappling the stronger heavier person has the advantage. i'm a black belt in judo and i weigh 138kg (308lbs or 22 stones) I've found my weight and strength have definately been an advantage to me although i am very fast for my size so that also helps. also experience is a big factor but if experience and skill in two opponents are the same it will come down to physical condition. Almost every fighting competition has weight catergories so i think it does matter but like i said before it's not everything.
Posted 1/9/11

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Then we must consider the amount of damage an open-handed strike can deal. If you are a sizable, African-American brood mother in the ghetto, the damage can be severe.


It would probably sting for awhile and your face would turn red, but it wouldn't leave that much damage.
I'm ignoring that last part.

You mean to say Big Momma couldn't deal an ass whoopin'?
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Noppidie nope.
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Posted 1/9/11
Size does matter since it is a factor; especially in an isolated brawl. But in a jungle, death match, or some military conflict; who knows?

In an MMA match, they have weight classes for a reason. A lighter fighter can beat a bigger person IN SPITE of the size disadvantage.
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Posted 1/9/11
Of course size matters, if you think it doesn't you are delusional.
That is why we have weightclasses in fighting, because size matters.

Now, size can be overcome. I have dropped a dude 260 lbs, 6'8. And i'm not a big guy. And i've seen a couple of the girls at my gym absolutely destroy strong guys in grappling. But it all has to do with a skill difference.
And a skilled fighter can easily take on bigger opponents. But the opponent being bigger doesn't neccesarily mean he can't fight.
As the smaller person, you are likely to have a speed advantage. But this also means you HAVE to have good technique to properly utilize this advantage.
I think a lot of people have a distorted image of fighting, and what will actually work. ^^
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Unless the guy has sheer brute strength I don't think size really matters it's more of fighting technique and some luck.
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Posted 1/9/11

Katatonia999 wrote:


LosingOrbit wrote:

Stamina is another important factor in a fight. I remember my boxing instructor telling us that it's all about being able to last longer than your opponent. Speed and strength is basically useless if you're too tired to fight.

Either way, I don't believe size matters that much, but strength dose.


Then someone bends the rules and introduces a 12 gauge shotgun. All the training in the world ceases to be effective against burning lead, unless you have a gun yourself.


Incorrect. There are many ways to beat someone who has a shotgun. Example: If someone has a shotgun to your back, you can turn fast pushing the barrel away from you and opening up your opponent's guard for an attack. You may say that you will get shot in the process of this but, ahhhhh it's all about training. Knowing when and how while having the proper speed to do such can make even a dumba** with a gun become easy to beat.
Posted 1/9/11
no i don't think size really matters speed and power is all it takes
Posted 1/9/11

Hellhunter22 wrote:


Katatonia999 wrote:


LosingOrbit wrote:

Stamina is another important factor in a fight. I remember my boxing instructor telling us that it's all about being able to last longer than your opponent. Speed and strength is basically useless if you're too tired to fight.

Either way, I don't believe size matters that much, but strength dose.


Then someone bends the rules and introduces a 12 gauge shotgun. All the training in the world ceases to be effective against burning lead, unless you have a gun yourself.


Incorrect. There are many ways to beat someone who has a shotgun. Example: If someone has a shotgun to your back, you can turn fast pushing the barrel away from you and opening up your opponent's guard for an attack. You may say that you will get shot in the process of this but, ahhhhh it's all about training. Knowing when and how while having the proper speed to do such can make even a dumba** with a gun become easy to beat.


Better hope they are dumb with bad reflexes, or you'd end up seeing your guts splattered allover the ground in front of you. If someone is baring down on you from 25 yards with a scattergun, you're liable to push up daisies. Even a person who isn't very skilled can manage to cover you with the cone of a shotgun's spray, and buckshot can put you down with a single hit.
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