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Does size really matter in a fight?
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Posted 1/9/11
Size doesn't matter at all in my opinion. If you can use your opponents movements against them and are faster than them, well you have the advantage. Of course I haven't been in a serious fight for a few years. So my opinion may be a bit invalid.
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Katatonia999 wrote:


Hellhunter22 wrote:


Katatonia999 wrote:


LosingOrbit wrote:

Stamina is another important factor in a fight. I remember my boxing instructor telling us that it's all about being able to last longer than your opponent. Speed and strength is basically useless if you're too tired to fight.

Either way, I don't believe size matters that much, but strength dose.


Then someone bends the rules and introduces a 12 gauge shotgun. All the training in the world ceases to be effective against burning lead, unless you have a gun yourself.


Incorrect. There are many ways to beat someone who has a shotgun. Example: If someone has a shotgun to your back, you can turn fast pushing the barrel away from you and opening up your opponent's guard for an attack. You may say that you will get shot in the process of this but, ahhhhh it's all about training. Knowing when and how while having the proper speed to do such can make even a dumba** with a gun become easy to beat.


Better hope they are dumb with bad reflexes, or you'd end up seeing your guts splattered allover the ground in front of you. If someone is baring down on you from 25 yards with a scattergun, you're liable to push up daisies. Even a person who isn't very skilled can manage to cover you with the cone of a shotgun's spray, and buckshot can put you down with a single hit.


well...unless you live in the middle of nowhere...I would say that most of the time a person with a shotgun would be less then 25 yard away because, he would be in your house/alley way. In that case you are dumb for letting him get that close in a familiar area or going down a dangerous alley way. If he's any further it means you are outside or just have a huge house where there are plenty of places to hide/take cover until police come or he gets close enough for you to counter attack.
Posted 1/9/11

Hellhunter22 wrote:


Katatonia999 wrote:


Hellhunter22 wrote:


Katatonia999 wrote:


LosingOrbit wrote:

Stamina is another important factor in a fight. I remember my boxing instructor telling us that it's all about being able to last longer than your opponent. Speed and strength is basically useless if you're too tired to fight.

Either way, I don't believe size matters that much, but strength dose.


Then someone bends the rules and introduces a 12 gauge shotgun. All the training in the world ceases to be effective against burning lead, unless you have a gun yourself.


Incorrect. There are many ways to beat someone who has a shotgun. Example: If someone has a shotgun to your back, you can turn fast pushing the barrel away from you and opening up your opponent's guard for an attack. You may say that you will get shot in the process of this but, ahhhhh it's all about training. Knowing when and how while having the proper speed to do such can make even a dumba** with a gun become easy to beat.


Better hope they are dumb with bad reflexes, or you'd end up seeing your guts splattered allover the ground in front of you. If someone is baring down on you from 25 yards with a scattergun, you're liable to push up daisies. Even a person who isn't very skilled can manage to cover you with the cone of a shotgun's spray, and buckshot can put you down with a single hit.


well...unless you live in the middle of nowhere...I would say that most of the time a person with a shotgun would be less then 25 yard away because, he would be in your house/alley way. In that case you are dumb for letting him get that close in a familiar area or going down a dangerous alley way. If he's any further it means you are outside or just have a huge house where there are plenty of places to hide/take cover until police come or he gets close enough for you to counter attack.


Whatever the case, never underestimate the situation. Flesh versus lead moving at a high velocity is a no-contest match, and if someone really wants you dead, they'll make it happen. You also have to take into account the fact that your instincts might kick in forcing you to do something that you wouldn't have thought you'd do. When getting shot at, many people react to their fight-or-flight response and just run. It takes training and the proper equipment to have any business handling life-threatening circumstances. Your wisest choice is to take yourself quickly and safely out of the line of fire, if possible. I personally wouldn't risk going toe-to-toe with anyone wielding any kind of firearm, unless I was using my own body as a shield to protect someone else.
Posted 1/9/11
not where i live where i live its all about do you have a lot of hair for them to pull xD and are you quick enough to dodge a punch?
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Size does matter, put Shane Carwin up against Urijah Faber and see what happens...
Posted 1/9/11
Im six feet two inches and cant fight a damn thing.....so i would say no xD
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Guns have many moving parts. Grab onto said moving parts and make sure it isn't pointing at your face. Gun nullified.
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Posted 1/9/11

Katatonia999 wrote:


Hellhunter22 wrote:


Katatonia999 wrote:


Hellhunter22 wrote:


Katatonia999 wrote:


LosingOrbit wrote:

Stamina is another important factor in a fight. I remember my boxing instructor telling us that it's all about being able to last longer than your opponent. Speed and strength is basically useless if you're too tired to fight.

Either way, I don't believe size matters that much, but strength dose.


Then someone bends the rules and introduces a 12 gauge shotgun. All the training in the world ceases to be effective against burning lead, unless you have a gun yourself.


Incorrect. There are many ways to beat someone who has a shotgun. Example: If someone has a shotgun to your back, you can turn fast pushing the barrel away from you and opening up your opponent's guard for an attack. You may say that you will get shot in the process of this but, ahhhhh it's all about training. Knowing when and how while having the proper speed to do such can make even a dumba** with a gun become easy to beat.


Better hope they are dumb with bad reflexes, or you'd end up seeing your guts splattered allover the ground in front of you. If someone is baring down on you from 25 yards with a scattergun, you're liable to push up daisies. Even a person who isn't very skilled can manage to cover you with the cone of a shotgun's spray, and buckshot can put you down with a single hit.


well...unless you live in the middle of nowhere...I would say that most of the time a person with a shotgun would be less then 25 yard away because, he would be in your house/alley way. In that case you are dumb for letting him get that close in a familiar area or going down a dangerous alley way. If he's any further it means you are outside or just have a huge house where there are plenty of places to hide/take cover until police come or he gets close enough for you to counter attack.


Whatever the case, never underestimate the situation. Flesh versus lead moving at a high velocity is a no-contest match, and if someone really wants you dead, they'll make it happen. You also have to take into account the fact that your instincts might kick in forcing you to do something that you wouldn't have thought you'd do. When getting shot at, many people react to their fight-or-flight response and just run. It takes training and the proper equipment to have any business handling life-threatening circumstances. Your wisest choice is to take yourself quickly and safely out of the line of fire, if possible. I personally wouldn't risk going toe-to-toe with anyone wielding any kind of firearm, unless I was using my own body as a shield to protect someone else.


Like I said before and like you just said "It takes training." You said "All the training in the world ceases to be effective," at the start which is what I was talking about.
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LosingOrbit wrote:

Stamina is another important factor in a fight. I remember my boxing instructor telling us that it's all about being able to last longer than your opponent. Speed and strength is basically useless if you're too tired to fight.

Either way, I don't believe size matters that much, but strength dose.


I think you boxing instructor told you that for a boxing match, which is good advise but, in a real fight without gloves.....stamina doesn't really matter as long as he or you can get a few good shots and KO him fast. Unless you have the stamina of really fat kid with no muscle......it doesn't as much.
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When I saw the title of this topic. For some reason.....I was thinking of penis size....and sex being a fight.....O.o


But to answer the question. In a random street fight? I would bet on the bigger guy.

In a formal fighting area? Well Size still gives an advantage, but technique gives more of a bigger advantage to anyone who can master it
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And with that, there is little else to discuss.
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Guns have many moving parts. Grab onto said moving parts and make sure it isn't pointing at your face. Gun nullified.


In my knowledge, you can't jam a gun by grabbing it. Unless you have super human speed, you can stick your finger where the shell ejects (if you're grabbing a gun that is gas operated) you can probably most likely stop another bullet entering the chamber if the guy missed you, which is very unlikely to miss at point blank.

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If you are holding a gun, your forearm becomes sort of like a stick. You can't aim a gun by turning your wrist, you have to aim your entire forearm in that direction. If you turn the gun with just your wrist and fire, you will hurt your wrist.

That means you need at least 12" of space to fire a gun from the hip. If you are within 2 feet of the shooter before they have you lined up, you stand a good chance of being able to get in close enough to render the firearm useless.

If the slide can't slide back, the bullet won't eject, and the shell won't be loaded. also, getting fingers underneath the trigger pull will stop all but hair triggers. holding on to the back of the gun preventing the hammer from coming back is another way to prevent the gun from firing again if you can manage it. most guns have a "half cocked" safety mechanism as well.

One other way to disarm someone is that if they do bring the gun up to shoot you, while you are in close, grab their wrist and use their elbow joint as a fulcrum to toss them over your body. 99% of the time the joint won't support their weight, resulting in their elbow being snapped in half.

Again, as long as you don't let the person put the gun up against your body or face, it is unlikely that they will hit you at point blank. Unless you sit there like a proper target. But this thread isn't about being a target.
Posted 1/10/11
I've been doing Aikido for years now, and I can honestly say, size is no issue to me even though I get what Rina is saying about finding larger opponents daunting, its just human instinct, but I admire her ability to look past the size of her opponent even though it did cross her mind, as it would anyone. Its all about stamina and speed and knowing where to attack. Aikido includes a lot of pressure point grappling work, if you can get hold of a pressure point and manipulate it, then you can bring even the biggest person under control.
Posted 1/10/11

Hellhunter22 wrote:


LosingOrbit wrote:

Stamina is another important factor in a fight. I remember my boxing instructor telling us that it's all about being able to last longer than your opponent. Speed and strength is basically useless if you're too tired to fight.

Either way, I don't believe size matters that much, but strength dose.


I think you boxing instructor told you that for a boxing match, which is good advise but, in a real fight without gloves.....stamina doesn't really matter as long as he or you can get a few good shots and KO him fast. Unless you have the stamina of really fat kid with no muscle......it doesn't as much.



Actually, he was also referring to fighting in and outside the ring.
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