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Does size really matter in a fight?
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Posted 1/12/11
It's all about the motion in the ocean...just kidding. Sure the larger fighter would have the height advantage but it wouldn't matter if the smaller person they are fighting against has some skills..lol
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You all are ignoring something very obvious. If size did not matter, why do all combat sports have weight classes?
If 2 people are of similar skill sets, the bigger person has the advantage.
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i dont think so. i went against someone smaller but darn, strong as heck XD
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Posted 1/12/11

sgill wrote:

You all are ignoring something very obvious. If size did not matter, why do all combat sports have weight classes?
If 2 people are of similar skill sets, the bigger person has the advantage.


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size matters<notice when people box or do mma they talk about height/weight advantage>...only because it gives u an edge against ur opponent still people who are taller or heavier can lose...
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Nope the bigger they r the harder they fall.... And the lighter they r the easier it is to throw they ass....lolz jk
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Posted 1/12/11
it depends...
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of course not, I'm kinda small.... ugh, don't wanna mention my height....
lol okay, here's my height:

haha, the guys in my school always tease me at my height but when I just look at them or stare, they're gonna say "oh, sorry master"... XDD I dun really know why maybe because of my tough nature, I love martial arts <3..
Posted 1/31/11
no, not at all.
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It does matter. Bigger people are normally heavier and stronger than smaller people. They also have more reach due to their size and more 'cushioning' that you have to hit through in order to deal damage. You wouldn't fight a large opponent the same way you would fight a small opponent unless you wanted to lose.
Source: Martial arts sparring experience

More weight and strength = stronger blows. More reach = effective over greater distances.

However, more weight and rigid strength = less movement when they are struck, so they absorb more force from a punch than people who are smaller who are moved back by the force (larger, heavier people tend to stand stationary and 'take it'). It is a fallacy that larger people are slower. If they are just as fit as a smaller person, they will be faster due to their longer limbs and stronger muscles.

Pros of being larger: More power, more weight, greater reach, faster, usually able to withstand more punishment
Cons of being larger: Receive the brunt of each blow, larger blind spots, easier to hit if your reach isn't effectively utilized to keep opponent away, bigger target.

Pros of being smaller: Slip through openings more easily, more able to get in an opponent's blind spot to strike weak points, somewhat harder to injure when actually struck, better evasiveness overall
Cons of being smaller: Weaker overall attacks, limited by reach, need to focus more on form and accuracy to generate power in attacks, much more reliance on skill
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Posted 2/1/11

adnwilson wrote:

Your question was does size really matter in a fight, and then went on to elaborate as in a street fight/actual fight.

The answer is yes!, but it is scalable to other things. I've done 3 types of fights and the last one more then the first. Wrestling, mma (fight club style), and been in actual this guy wants to beat the **** out of me. The three don't really compare, my technique is average in wrestling, and I've beaten people much stronger/bigger then me who had worst technique. and the opposite is true, I've been whooped by guys smaller then me.

In fight club style, things like adrenaline,habits, and reflex take over more then technique because it's less mental and more reactionary. Once you get hit in the face a few times by punches that feel like sledgehammers, I don't care how "fast" you think you are, and how good your techniques are, it gets thrown out the window and your bad habbits from training really start showing, but you also get more inner strength and drive than you had before.

Bar/Club fights, and getting jumped after school. besides kicking in the balls and scratching/biting, and weapons, most "technique" does not exist (unless you are a real MMA fighter/Boxer and used to taking real blows with nothing held back, but let's be honest, most of us aren't) In these situations, my thought process is, break a bone, stab out an eye, or grab on and choke him. I take the fight to the ground (as my fighting style is) and immediately go for the best way to kill the other guy (and I mean kill, I have been in a fight with a guy who would have killed me if others had not intervened, so in bar/club fights, I hold nothing back, and all my military training, combined with fighting, and experience is put into the mix to incapacitate the other person) And as wrestlers know, once on the ground with an inexperienced/drunk person, the weight advantage does not help them as much.

All in all, Size does play a role, same as skill, training, and speed!


Bar/Club fights, and getting jumped after school. besides kicking in the balls and scratching/biting, and weapons, most "technique" does not exist (unless you are a real MMA fighter/Boxer and used to taking real blows with nothing held back, but let's be honest, most of us aren't)

For the average untrained person this is true. For a person with poor training this is true. But you dont have to be a MMA professional or pro boxer to be able to actually fight and take a full contact hit...like a martial artist. Even after bad Mcdojo karate training, my mentality, disipline, and emotional state (during a fight) was far above an average persons. I have had random people come up to tell me this when i was at my job. And i have seen fights and been in a few myself.It was easy for me to see that i wasn't like everyone else. And people who have met me in person-whether on the battle field, sparring match, street fight, ect. all claim the same. Now i am being trained by professionals and have the skill to back up that mentality. But you would be surprised by what a little proper training will do for an average person. I have seen total wussies turn into great fighters with the right installment of confidence, contact, and experience.

So there are more of us than you think. peace over war
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Yeah sometimes. I would also say surroundings/enviroment also matter in a fight as well.
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Rina-San wrote:

If you're a martial artist or have had a street fighting experience, do share. Or if you want to just express what you think fire away.

Do you get anxious facing an opponent that is much larger than you in muscular stature? Or do you just rely on your nimbleness and speed to carry you through?


Personally, I'm not very tall or strong, well I am really strong but have no real muscular stature, its all on the inside lol, so sometimes I get a little nervous when I see a big girl/guy stepping onto the mat to fight me....but I try to look past that and just get the points relying on my flexibility and speed. Because unlike in a reality street-fight situation all you have to do is strike at certain points and you win the fight, so this is where speed is more important imo. However out on the street, if some huge guy wants to rape me or something then I will start to worry, I'll fight my best and attack the legs and get him on the ground but I would probably start wishing I was a giant at that point, even though my skill is high and am super fast, its still an incredible threat to me and I'd want to get out of the situation as fast as possible.



simple answer to this question...yes it does matter. It is an advantage. And if you are scared of being raped (which the raper will ALWAYS be bigger, stronger), carry a weapon and learn to use it. Weapons are a GREAT way to even out the odds, especially knives. You can damage to degree with them. You have to kill with a gun-not to much with a knife.

But for unarmed combat-throat, eyes, groin, solar plexus, knees, and just the overall center line theory you find in many asian arts. these are weaknesses in the human body. Hit these areas effectivly and the bigger they are the harder they fall. I dont care how big they are, when you rip out the eyes-they cant see, they cant fight. Basic Karate 101.

This is a thread about melee or unarmed combat, guns pwn but not everyone has a gun m'kay. Any dumbass can pull a trigger which is annoying as some people train for years

And i get that. Also depending on what country you live in, guns may very well be nearly impossible and illegal to get (Japan). But any ordinary item can be a weapon if you know how to use it. Just like any dumass can pull a trigger, any dumass can fight and throw a punch. fighting is easy. I dont see how you can percieve it as annoying, why not embrace it and add it to your skill set if it's available? Why limit yourself to pride when it comes to survival? Use what works and get rid of what doesn't. Bruce Lee taught this. Dont simly throw out the traditional method as a reaction, because then you have just trapped yourself in a pattern with no adaptation and growth. Bruce Lee taught this as well. peace over war
Posted 2/1/11

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Rina-San wrote:

If you're a martial artist or have had a street fighting experience, do share. Or if you want to just express what you think fire away.

Do you get anxious facing an opponent that is much larger than you in muscular stature? Or do you just rely on your nimbleness and speed to carry you through?


Personally, I'm not very tall or strong, well I am really strong but have no real muscular stature, its all on the inside lol, so sometimes I get a little nervous when I see a big girl/guy stepping onto the mat to fight me....but I try to look past that and just get the points relying on my flexibility and speed. Because unlike in a reality street-fight situation all you have to do is strike at certain points and you win the fight, so this is where speed is more important imo. However out on the street, if some huge guy wants to rape me or something then I will start to worry, I'll fight my best and attack the legs and get him on the ground but I would probably start wishing I was a giant at that point, even though my skill is high and am super fast, its still an incredible threat to me and I'd want to get out of the situation as fast as possible.



simple answer to this question...yes it does matter. It is an advantage. And if you are scared of being raped (which the raper will ALWAYS be bigger, stronger), carry a weapon and learn to use it. Weapons are a GREAT way to even out the odds, especially knives. You can damage to degree with them. You have to kill with a gun-not to much with a knife.

But for unarmed combat-throat, eyes, groin, solar plexus, knees, and just the overall center line theory you find in many asian arts. these are weaknesses in the human body. Hit these areas effectivly and the bigger they are the harder they fall. I dont care how big they are, when you rip out the eyes-they cant see, they cant fight. Basic Karate 101.


This is a thread about melee or unarmed combat, guns pwn but not everyone has a gun m'kay. Any dumbass can pull a trigger which is annoying as some people train for years

And i get that. Also depending on what country you live in, guns may very well be nearly impossible and illegal to get (Japan). But any ordinary item can be a weapon if you know how to use it. Just like any dumass can pull a trigger, any dumass can fight and throw a punch. fighting is easy. I dont see how you can percieve it as annoying, why not embrace it and add it to your skill set if it's available? Why limit yourself to pride when it comes to survival? Use what works and get rid of what doesn't. Bruce Lee taught this. Dont simly throw out the traditional method as a reaction, because then you have just trapped yourself in a pattern with no adaptation and growth. Bruce Lee taught this as well. peace over war


First of all, I don't want to carry a knife around, it is not in my interest to do such a thing or hurt someone else unless I have to, if I did, I wouldn't stab them, its a lousy and a cheap option that disgusts me, knives are for the kitchen. I'd rather use a sword but I'm not going to carry one of those around am I? There are far too many "fighters" out there who think they can hurt people just because they have so and so many years of training. I have a steel tonfa keyring of a fair size, shaped like a torpedo it makes strikes hit much harder and hurt more but it does not endanger the lives of the opponents, unless I strike at the neck. It just gives me a better chance of getting away, yes I can fight but why bother when there is a gap for me to run? Its not cowardly but its common sense. This is the way I was taught, I only fight hard in tournaments, when there is something in it for me. Also I don't recall Bruce Lee ever using a knife. Actually I think he'd nod in agreement to what I just said. See I was taught to disarm knives, not use them.

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if both have the same fighting skills exc. then ofc size matters...
else there would not be a weight division exc
yes, smaller guys can beat bigger guys if they are more skilled and/or have more experience exc.
but if everythin else are the same, then the bigger guy will win obviously..
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