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Most beautiful trannies and crossdressers are more beautiful than most beautiful women
Posted 1/11/11
well i personally think that trannies are fucking disgusting but who knows
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Posted 1/11/11 , edited 1/11/11
um those guys... Transexual, or Crossdressing they have to put on alot of make up and falsies too, so your view that they are more beautiful than women only goes skin deep. Take off the foundation, fake eye lashes, skin correcting make up, take away the Female estrogen hormones they take to be softer and rounder in places, take away shaving for a week or so and that definition of beauty changes. I have nothing against transexuals or cross dressers, dare I say I have one or two in my family(who friggin doesn't) but beauty is in the eye of the beholder. to claim that one thing is more beautiful than another well, you will fall short. and all your claims that most of them have not undergone plastic surgery is not true at all trannies aren't born with boobies and no adams apples, many of them undergo hairline adjustments, and cheek bone adjustments not to mention lipo, and lip jobs, and boob jobs. so its ok if you think that is beautiful just don't try and cram it down everyone's throats. no pun intended. beauty is a perception and opinion, and sorry to say it but not everyone will share the same as yours.
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Posted 1/11/11
well if a real woman had plastic surgery and then you can compare her to a tranny
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Posted 1/12/11
I guess I can sort of see where you're coming from. The thing is that you haven't met a large enough population of women to make that generalization, so you can't really use the word 'most'. Most of the girls that I know rarely, if ever, wear makeup. Another thing that you should remember is that it's different from country to country, city to city, and culture to culture. Men get plastic surgery too! Women and crossdressers wear makeup for the same reason: so that they can feel confident and beautiful. The pictures of the 'fake' girls that you showed were celebrities or models. Of course they wear makeup and whatnot - most are paid based on their looks! You can't use most celebrities and base your perception of mankind (womenkind) on them.
Posted 1/12/11

CrystalMeth- wrote:

Interesting. But trannies also use make-up and PhotoShop, so you can't hold that one against the female population.


The do, but not often. Photos I posted aren't PhotoShopped, maybe some, but very slightly. You can see how they are even more beautiful than women. Without make up trannies and crossdressers are still pretty, but most of women look like monsters without their make up.
Posted 1/12/11 , edited 1/12/11

mystic17 wrote:

Well foremost, whether you dislike the quote or not, it speaks the truth. Every person has their aspect of what beauty is, just like you do.

From the look of those pictures of crossdressers, they've used make up and other accessories (and probably surgery) to make themselves look nice as well. The same as the women in your spoiler. Also, using celebrities to try to make a firm standpoint isn't helping with your debate here. There's many women and men out there that are alluring naturally and require no make up or surgery. Try using them as an example.


Oh, please, it's not speaks true. There is stupid people and there is wise ones, stupid and ignorant like other kind of beauty close to their consciousness, but it's not means their opinion is right.

I know that men don't do much plastic surgery and make up as women. Jasmine You without heavy make up looks even more better. But he used make up not to look more beautiful, he used to look like a magic being, like a witch or elf.





I'm a fan of him and I learned everything about visual key artists, and I know that they never undergone plastic surgery, like Hizaki and Kamijo from Versailles, or Kaya, their beauty is natural. I think there is no even one woman that could be as beautiful as Jasmine You.

Face with plastic surgery looks unnaturally, and features are not suit for the other features of face that were not fixed.

Posted 1/12/11

bmac6817 wrote:

From a straight males perspective, I don't like girls that have plastic surgery done (even boobs). I would definitely choose someone natural over someone fake.

The most attractive attribute to me is a woman's spirit. And by spirit I mean the that independent confidence that a woman who is truly comfortable in her own skin has. In my experience, those are the only women who have ever made me feel that "love at first sight" feeling. When I see someone who has a ton of plastic surgery done, I can't help but think that they must be really insecure, and to me that is a "turn off".

As far as the title of this thread... Men who want to be women.... I just don't get it.


They don't want to be women, they are who they are. Most of visual key artists consider themselves as androgynous beings and in interviews they said they are males.

I also don't like pl.s. You gotta agree that men I posted are really beautiful (love them or hate them but the true is what I have written before).
Posted 1/12/11

daramarie1 wrote:

Crossdressers are looking for and working for a real girl effect. Real girls do'nt have that concern.


Crossdressers never say they trying to look like girl or dress like girl, they say "We dress what we want, we look like who we are".

Let's not talk about "look like girl" or "not look like smth.", I'm talking about just real thing that is "Beauty". Who is more beautiful?
Posted 1/12/11

AngelDemonLight wrote:


Versailles - Jasmine You (R.I.P), Kamijou,
Malice Mizer/ Moi Dix Mois - Mana; In his MM years yes, he wore dresses, he still does, but he wears pants as well.

Gackt- I think that there's only one cover of him where he's dressed as a female.

D - Asagi; He's the vocalist, and yes he may wear dresses and look feminine, but that's all just part of what he feels like doing.

Dir En Grey - Shinya; While he still is the most 'feminine' looking out of the boys, he stopped wearing dresses. That was only when Dir En Grey were in their Visual Kei era.

Ayabie- Don't know, don't care.
Alice Nine, An Cafe same with Ayabie.

In turn, most of the Visual Kei style/artists wear feminine clothes or look feminine, because they want to. Or, they do it for the money.
Like an artist :L <3




Not for money. They just want to.

Aren't they beautiful?
Posted 1/12/11

LosingOrbit wrote:

Female beauty is fake? How do you believe most of those men become women? They use plastic surgery and loads of make up.


Prove it.

I don't believe that transgendered men are women, they are still men.

But visual key artists are not t-girls, they are crossdressers.
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Posted 1/12/11 , edited 1/12/11
lol, as I go down the picture list, all I could see were visual-kei J-rockers xD

beauty can be natural, some celebrities look good even without makeup
you can't really say female beauty is fake, coz men uses a lot of makeup to look like women too, and that's not fake?
Posted 1/12/11 , edited 1/12/11

nosxprincess wrote:

I guess I can sort of see where you're coming from. The thing is that you haven't met a large enough population of women to make that generalization, so you can't really use the word 'most'. Most of the girls that I know rarely, if ever, wear makeup. Another thing that you should remember is that it's different from country to country, city to city, and culture to culture. Men get plastic surgery too! Women and crossdressers wear makeup for the same reason: so that they can feel confident and beautiful. The pictures of the 'fake' girls that you showed were celebrities or models. Of course they wear makeup and whatnot - most are paid based on their looks! You can't use most celebrities and base your perception of mankind (womenkind) on them.


Take a picture of that beautiful girl or woman that will be much more beautiful than these boys I posted.

If you can't, then just say "yes, males are more beautiful than females".
Posted 1/12/11

Rukia_the_Artist wrote:

lol, as I go down the picture list, all I could see were visual-kei J-rockers xD

beauty can be natural, some celebrities look good even without makeup
you can't really say female beauty is fake, coz men uses a lot of makeup to look like women too, and that's not fake?


No, because without make up they are beautiful, but lot of women look just... like an ordinary, I can't say all are look like monsters, yeah, women could be beautiful but not as beautiful as men.
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Posted 1/12/11 , edited 1/12/11
You can easily identify their gender by looking at their chin/neck. Indeed. A few of those totally looked female genuine.
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