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Rie Kugimiya rant
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Akane-Iro ni Somaru Saka, Brotherhood, Queen's Blade, Saki, Dragon Crisis, Ladies vs. Butler, Fairy Tail, Heroic Age, Samurai Girls, and Linebarrel are the anime I've seen with Rie Kugimiya. I don't remember hearing the voices for all of them just really Saki, Samurai Girls, Dragon Crisisi, and Queen's Blade (unless, of course, I looked at clips of the other ones in Japanese). However, as talented as she is, she uses the most obnoxious anime voice I have seen in either English or Japanese.

Take Saki, for instance. Yes, Yuki is supposed to be a moe annoying flat-chested bitch-type character (As I see it). However, Rie overdoes it. I can understand the whole women doing voice of young character thing but her rendition makes me want to shoot my ears.

This is the question: Is it me or does Japan seem to have a thing for casting her as high-pitched moe/tsundere characters that are meant to be annoying mainly because it's what she's typecasted as? That is, I think Happy should be voiced by a man or a woman who does seriously overdo it where you know it's a female voice (I've seen series where you know a woman is doing a guy's voice but they either sound way too girly or they sound rather masculine. Case in point is Junko Takeuchi doing Naruto. I know it's a lady doing his voice but it is too feminine to my ears).Having watched Dragon Crisis, Rose sounds exactly the same as Happy to me.

These statements apply to other anime with girl-voiced guys. I just wish Japan would try to get more actual boys (I know get more talent is hard though) to do male character voices. Am I just sounding idiosyncratic or do some agree that Rie is trying way too hard to do the young girl voice/guy?

I understand both types can be high-pitched, however, I have observed her trying way too hard to sound cute. For instance, if I was to make a scale of 1-10 (10 highest) on how annoying/high-pitched voices for anime boys and girls should be, then Rie is above a 10. Also, this is one of the reasons why I think some anime are better dubbed into English on the aspect that the English voice might not be trying to go over the top on high-pitched voices.

PS. Just to give you an idea of how irritating I can find her or other Japanese seiyuu voices, I cite Takahiro Sakurai's role of Cyborg 009 in the 2001 version. Take the really crappy 60-90s dubs and the 4kids-type dubs mixed with in the blatantly false "All English dubs suck" belief. That's how I think of his role. Judge for yourself (this is a link to a non-official anime streaming site) by watching this episode: http://www.kumby.com/cyborg-009-episode-48-final/.
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I love Rie as any characther, but in real life she sounds annoying :P
Many actresses sound annoying irl, just check them in vids on YT.

Mai Nakahara is the only one I can think of that sound sweet even irl.
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you do know that most anime characters even in America that are boys are voiced by females as well, case a point goku from dragon ball, goten from dbz. It's not really her fault its just fact that most boys sound like girls until there balls drop which is not a real strong character straight
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Well, a large percentage of anime features characters around the ages of 14 and 15. That can still be considered rather young. It is largely impossible for a male voice actor to imitate a young voice. By contrast, it is much easier for a woman to sound like a young male. So this fact matched up with the age range of anime characters, there are simply more opportunities for females. Not a matter of talent.

As for voice pitch itself, it is more of a cultural thing that influences one's "pitch tolerance". For one who lives in japan, where many women's voices are naturally higher, the even higher pitch used in anime is a smaller percentage change in their perspective than the greater difference it is for us; here no woman could even go that high so actually hearing it is quite a drastic difference in our ears.

This topic is also of relevance to why so many people default to disliking dubs. They're in the opposite position, and have instead grown comfortable with these voices that would otherwise be unnatural in their environment. As such, dubs which will have more environmentally normalized voices are now stepping out of the range they have become comfortable with, so it will be impossible for a dub to satisfy such people.

You seem to be in a better position to pursue dubs, so that voices are raised only by a normalized percentage. Indeed that's good, because the dubbing industry needs reason to stay alive.

In Japan, most people would not use annoying to describe tsundere as you clearly have them matched up in your mind. Kugimiya has been casted for more tsundere roles than annoying-focused characters (per se). And she does an excellent job at emoting tsundere in her acting. She's simply beyond your comfort zone, because it is incomprehensible for you to meet in person anyone that resembles her characters.
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I for one love her voice on all the characters you mentioned and more.. Shes really talented in what she does and I don't think tsundere girls are the annoying characters they are more of the girls you don't find in real life.
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I prefer Japanese audio to English dubs because it sounds more naturalistic and not just some people reading something off a page. Now, I know there are some really nice English dubs out there, but they are still likely to be inferior to the Japanese audio track in my opinion. I also know that the English subtitles are far from perfect in their translation as well, but for some reason I can look past that fact, and having watched a sizeable amount of anime can infer something from the audio that the subtitles might miss. Now choosing Japanese or English audio comes down to personal preference, I just think that even with the flaws of English subtitles I still prefer to have my anime sound more conversational and lifelike. Plus, I personally have no objections to Kugimiya's roles in anime and really like her in FMA, Nabari no Ou and Gintama.
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Posted 1/24/11 , edited 1/24/11
Rie Kugimiya is a legend.

That voice. Its a Godsend.


Also, nobody thinks that every single Dub in the entire world sucks. We only say the majority of them sucks.
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I should have said that the tsundere/potential-tsundere voice I've heard here are annoying. You all do have relevant points. However, it's just what I consider the exaggerated young girl voice that really irritates me. What TerraGamerX said about the cultural thing, the same thing can be of what Japanese think of foreign voices. Perhaps annoying more so, to me, applies to the high-pitch.
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jtiskool305 wrote:

I for one love her voice on all the characters you mentioned and more.. Shes really talented in what she does and I don't think tsundere girls are the annoying characters they are more of the girls you don't find in real life.


i wish they were real
Posted 1/24/11 , edited 1/24/11

rikku456 wrote:


jtiskool305 wrote:

I for one love her voice on all the characters you mentioned and more.. Shes really talented in what she does and I don't think tsundere girls are the annoying characters they are more of the girls you don't find in real life.


i wish they were real


lmao u kinky bitch, u would wanna be whipped around by a bossy girl dont u ;]

though i really loved that anime in ur avi
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ghosty32 wrote:


rikku456 wrote:


jtiskool305 wrote:

I for one love her voice on all the characters you mentioned and more.. Shes really talented in what she does and I don't think tsundere girls are the annoying characters they are more of the girls you don't find in real life.


i wish they were real


lmao u kinky bitch, u would wanna be whipped around by a bossy girl dont u ;]

though i really loved that anime in ur avi
lol mabye
Nah :p i dunno theres something about that type that i like, the way they try to hide their feelings by acting angry , but yea XD maybe im weird

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The only dubs i say i hate are the ones that are done badly, theres some stuff i dont mind in English like pokemon
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It all connects to Asian's moe/kawii love. Big companies really care about using fanservice to lure in young teenagers, not caring for women's ACTUAL independence. The create a image for women. They either have to be flat-chest or big busted. They also either have to be one of the other category: pure-hearted or tsundere.

The real conversation you need to stir up when will anime pass the point from exageratting from satire to satisfying yet growing teenage boy's lust.
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I like Rie-san but she's getting way way too overused. XD; Can't somebody else voice a tsundere loli girl for ONCE!?
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Chiibihime wrote:

I like Rie-san but she's getting way way too overused. XD; Can't somebody else voice a tsundere loli girl for ONCE!?


well she did have the whole year off last year and only did one character happy from fairy tail but i understand what your saying lol
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