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Egypt's people rebelling over the President
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Self-immolation is a demonstration of detachment from the flesh, dedication to the cause. It is an extremely noble thing, and we should all admire it.

It is the ultimate demonstration of selflessness.


You and I obviously have different value systems but I will grant you that self-immolation marks extreme dedication. I'm not sure if that means fanaticism or desperation.

However, I cannot blindly 'admire' the idea of setting oneself on fire to prove a point.

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~Corrupt men are everywhere. Doesn't matter what race they are or what country they live in as long as they have power in their hands, they will use it as much as they can and think only of their greedy selves. Poverty is everywhere.I can understand wanting to protest to the government for their ignorance on the poor people of their country but setting yourself on fire? I can hardly imagine what desperate people think...though I suppose that's why I still don't understand politics, and all the poor and powerless people. I just continue living my life w/ the same old routine w/o a care of what's happening in the world.Although it would get my interest if that case happened here in the Philippines,since its not, I don't really care.



Self-immolation is a demonstration of detachment from the flesh, dedication to the cause. It is an extremely noble thing, and we should all admire it.

It is the ultimate demonstration of selflessness.


~Well for me, I think it's just an act of desperation,really. he couldn't take all the hardships anymore so he scorched himself. If he has relatives, he'll just make them worry.
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Posted 1/30/11

_DaboinextdoorSed wrote:


Self-immolation is a demonstration of detachment from the flesh, dedication to the cause. It is an extremely noble thing, and we should all admire it.

It is the ultimate demonstration of selflessness.


~Well for me, I think it's just an act of desperation,really. he couldn't take all the hardships anymore so he scorched himself. If he has relatives, he'll just make them worry.


If he just wanted to die, he'd have done something like shooting or hanging.
Self-immolation is an act of extreme balls.
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Posted 1/30/11

AHTL wrote:


_DaboinextdoorSed wrote:


Self-immolation is a demonstration of detachment from the flesh, dedication to the cause. It is an extremely noble thing, and we should all admire it.

It is the ultimate demonstration of selflessness.


~Well for me, I think it's just an act of desperation,really. he couldn't take all the hardships anymore so he scorched himself. If he has relatives, he'll just make them worry.


If he just wanted to die, he'd have done something like shooting or hanging.
Self-immolation is an act of extreme balls.


~Look, I just posted what my mind thought. I didn't post it to have an argument about the man who burned himself. So please, stop. I don't really care why he did that. It won't affect me here anyway
Posted 1/30/11 , edited 1/30/11
I don't want to call anybody names but...

They aren't rebelling, they are revolting. When the majority of a system wants somebody out, the defender is now the position of the president. His defiance against the peoples wishes has now pinned him as a rebel.

Now time will see if he will continue curtain dressing with his new chrony government, or actually step down himself. The question is, now that the police are gone, if the people attack the presidents building, will the military defend the president, or support the people? It is said that the military first and foremost are obligated to defend the president.
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_DaboinextdoorSed wrote:

~Corrupt men are everywhere. Doesn't matter what race they are or what country they live in as long as they have power in their hands, they will use it as much as they can and think only of their greedy selves. Poverty is everywhere.I can understand wanting to protest to the government for their ignorance on the poor people of their country but setting yourself on fire? I can hardly imagine what desperate people think...though I suppose that's why I still don't understand politics, and all the poor and powerless people. I just continue living my life w/ the same old routine w/o a care of what's happening in the world.Although it would get my interest if that case happened here in the Philippines,since its not, I don't really care.



Self-immolation is a demonstration of detachment from the flesh, dedication to the cause. It is an extremely noble thing, and we should all admire it.

It is the ultimate demonstration of selflessness.


~Well for me, I think it's just an act of desperation,really. he couldn't take all the hardships anymore so he scorched himself. If he has relatives, he'll just make them worry.


It is not an act of desperation. People do not torture themselves in desperation over hardship. It was a drive to send a clear message. You should look up the warring times of feudal japan. Samurai would slit their bellies and have their guts spill out to prove their conviction towards an idea and send a message to their lords.

Not a thing for the feint heart, and not to be taken lightly. I won't say it's a good thing to do, but I think it's quite a shame when people misinterpret the reason these people choose to make such an incredibly painful statement of death.
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fyi he was algerian not egyptian, and he was a well educated man but unemployed and supported his family by selling goods from a wheel barrow, the govt said he couldn't sell anymore from it because ruined the streets. so long story short he had no means to support his family anymore. there are a lot of underemployed youths that can't find work because the govt is corrupt. then there was a domino effect.
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If you ask me thats not a very good way to get someones point. Torturing urself only hurts u and I guess he found that out... I mean ur not supposed to test ur leader or u might not like what he's going to do!
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Pikachu_kun wrote:

Oh and, American media is failing hard at reporting anything that isn't out of date. It took awhile before anything was reported, and when a report finally came it was mostly false info.

And that's why you never watch TV news stations.




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http://english.aljazeera.net/ is one of the more reliable sources out there, especially compared to American media.


Can't believe I'm saying this, but don't be too hard on US media on this one. I don't think anyone is getting the full picture on this one.
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Posted 1/30/11
It's time for another revolution. Maybe we get a better world after this. Maybe not. We don't know.
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yada yada i felt like shit after watching this...it truly sucks i hope for the best...
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