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Anime is not animation: What do you think?
Posted 2/8/11
It's the same reasoning as manga readers getting offended by people calling manga a comic book.
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Posted 2/8/11 , edited 2/8/11
What the F*CK.

That's like saying an apple isn't a fruit. They all must be major racist retards. I think your nationalist theory must be true.
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Posted 2/8/11
アニメ (n,adj-no) (1) animated film; animated cartoon; anime (when referring to Japanese cartoons); (2) (abbr) (See アニメーション) animation;

That's the definition from a Japanese English dictionary... perhaps you should show it to your teacher.

If that's not enough, show him the English definition:
"full of life, action, or spirit; lively; vigorous: an animated debate on the death penalty. "

I mean... it's quite obvious that anime is animation, because that's what the Japanese dictionary says and...
that's what the English dictionary describes animation to be... moving cartoon = animation = anime.
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Posted 2/8/11
I'd be speechless if I heard someone say that.
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Posted 2/9/11
If it's animated, then it's animation.
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Posted 2/9/11
Those types of people are just jealous that American animation is so inferior to Japanese Anime
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Posted 2/9/11
Wow, just wow. I'm literally losing hope in humanity for every day that goes by...
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Posted 2/9/11

papagolfwhiskey wrote:


CG111777 wrote:

I believe the very definition of anime is - Japanese Animation. So your teacher is definitely wrong. As for why he would not want to admit that its hard to say. He probably just did so because he is not very versed in anime and didn't want be showed up by his student, making him look like there is a huge area of animation that he is not competent to teach about. As far anime fans not liking it when people call it anime cartoons. That is just pride talking in my opinion. People don't like it when others trivialize things that they like. The reality is that anime is japanese cartoons. It's nothing to be ashamed of. So I am 33 and I like Japanese cartoons. Big deal, I'm not insecure about it. It's not as embarrassing as someone watching the Jersey Shore or something lame like that at any age.


Quoted and emphasized for truth... what's Jersey Shore?



Trust me, you don't want to know.
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Posted 2/9/11

aznslayer93 wrote:

It's the same reasoning as manga readers getting offended by people calling manga a comic book.


Right, but manga is essentially a comic book. That's not a real reason to be offended.
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Posted 2/9/11
Opinions mean nothing, the terminology is set. The teacher's a fool.
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Posted 2/9/11 , edited 2/9/11
Your teacher is a dumbass :P
Or just ignorant, he probably thinks that drawing isn`t part of animation.
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Posted 2/9/11
I knew a professor at my college who disliked Japanese animation too (just heard about it... never took his classes). Eh, I don't understand why anyone would think so, personally.

ANIMATION is ANIMATION. DRAWINGS or COMPUTER GENERATED OBJECTS that are ANIMATED ON SCREEN FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES (sorry for the caps... it's for the emph.) Saying that Japanese animation is not animation is just as silly as saying that the "Seinfeld" is not a TV show, but a radio drama.

Canadian animation, French animation, Russian animation, Korean animation, Chinese animation... It's all animation. As for the quality of the animation, well, that's up to the animating studio, BUT IT'S ALL ANIMATION!
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Posted 2/10/11 , edited 2/10/11

ksrandall wrote:

I have to get this off my shoulders. This has been bugging me for a while.

Last Fall, I had an ANIMATION teacher (suppossedly a former Nickolodeon animator) tell my animation history class that "anime is not animation". I finally asked the guy (during class) what anime he had seen . The only anime this guy had ever seen were Sailor Moon and an obscure series called Marine Boy. Days later, I met with some people from the school's animation club and invited them to Aki Con only to be told that "anime is not animation". After the incidents, I've been left without any peers to talk to or critique my work. People treat me as if I have the Bubonic Plague.

What really bothers me about this opinion was the fact it comes from some animators (or potential animators) instead of some little kid. In my view, people who claim anime isn't animation just don't want to admit that other countries can make animation that surpasses the US (story-wise, artisticly, and technically). Basicly, they are nationalists (<--- Just my opinion, folks). I can't take so-called professionals who say this seriously.

It always amazes me what the Japanese do with their productions even though they don't have Hollywood budgets! Recently, I showed the second ending of Tagami Bachi REVERSE to my Digital Media Production teacher and asked if a simillar Paper Mario-type sequence can be re-created in Flash and After Effects. Even the teacher admitted he didn't know of any way to do the same thing using the Adobe products.

Well, anyways, what do you guys think?


For future reference. what is the name of this school? If someone wants to study Animation I will specifically mention it as a school to avoid.
If they're that willfully ignorant. What other stuff do they erroneously teach?
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Posted 2/10/11 , edited 2/10/11
Why the hell is everyone (not here) trying to invent new labels for EVERYTHING?! It's not seasonal it's global warming, it doesn't explain why it still gets cold in the winter so it's Climate Change. Which in the end does a 180 and still explains the four seasons. Anime, cartoons, comic books, manga are all interchangeable as long as anime are not called maga; one comes from the other.

I was thinking that Avatar the last airbender was the closest thing to an anime that the US has produced, but I'm a realist and know that it simply doesn't fit that label simply because it didn't come from Japan. Thundercats originated in the U.S. and it was undoubtedly a cartoon for those who didn't (at the time) differentiate between toons and anime. It seems that Japan is coming out with a new Thundercats show in the reasonably near future, then I ask is it still a cartoon because it's a product of the U.S. or does it become an anime simply because the Japanese are redoing it? Then if this is so what changes it into anime? Is it the design of the characters, the size of the iris' of their eyes, or is is that the story is written in such a way that doesn't necessarily insult the intelligence of those who watch it? I remember it differently as a kid when the story seemed good enough by comparison with other lame shows out there like Gobots (dies a little more inside thinking about gobots), but it seems so lame now I wouldn't last through the first few seconds of the opening credits. Of course this is the opposite today that I'd rather watch G1 Transformers than all the ones that came out since with the exception of season 2+ of Beast Wars.
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Posted 2/10/11
Anime is Japanese for animation.

Because Japanese animation has a distinctive history and style, people in the west call Japanese-style animation "anime".

(Just like the French wave of "dark films" were called "film noir" ~ and even American made films that bought into that style are called "film noir". When the original word or phrase in the foreign language is short and conveys the point, English speakers often just adopt the foreign word or phrase.)

Not complicated, don't understand how someone who is supposed to be qualified to teach a course on animation could mess those straightforward points up.
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