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i didn't feel like trolling this thread, but after seeing some replies i have to disagree with you guys. I agree mac's are good for editing videos, pictures, stuff like that, but PC's can get pretty much all the same software to edit, so aside from that i find no value in them. Even though it's a tried and overused argument, i have to point once again mac's are way too expensive. I saw a 1 gb video card for $1500 average. I'm getting a new one for $75 for my PC. Also, mac's aren't nearly as customizable as PC's (correct me if I'm wrong, i don't keep up with every single update/change). Mac's don't get viruses, because there has to be someone there to make it. Right now pretty much all hackers, virus creators, they're all on PC's. If ever the entire world ends up using Mac's (pray to God that won't happen), then you can be sure that there will be a crap load of virus' on it too.

Also one of the most important features of a computer:
GAMING. Seriously I've only seen like 1 or 2 mainstream games released for Mac's and those had to be modified and released later (E.g Starcraft 2 for Mac)

All in all, i have to really sum it up like this : Apple has basically been around the same time as PC, so there is no reason people should be blaming PC's success on Apple being in it's shadow. They both had their chance to be in the spotlight and PC got it. Mac's from what I know are more user friendly and easier to use, but when it comes down to it i have to go with PC.

Also, they use PC's in Pokemon. Win.
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They see me trollin', they hatin'

Macs - super expensive, but well-designed and great for programming, design, and graphics. If you have a problem with it, take it to the apple store and go to the genius bar and they will fix it or replace it. Get AppleCare so you don't have to pay for the repairs - it pays for itself if you ever have any problems. Good for the novice or the programmer who doesn't want to waste time configuring linux.
PCs - ubiquitous and cheap. If you know what you're doing (or know someone who does), you can set it up to work just well enough for you. Or if you're a business customer (or do IT for one), managing tens or hundreds or thousands of computers is much easier. It's not the best programming environment, but it's not particularly bad.
Linux computers - you're not reading this thread because you're too 1337 and Arch Linux is like totally the best,

Really, though, come on. Everything that's successful is successful for a reason. If both are selling well then clearly they have their own different selling points.


Arch owns all lol. I tried running it but I'm not nerdy enough so I suck with Ubuntu.

If programming, servers and virtualization is your thing, Linux is the way to go. For games stick with Windows (duh), and if you are a hipster get a mac. I've had all three and Linux is my fav by a long shot. But I am kinda a geek so yeah.
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I find Mac more convenience than PC because it's way faster. When I boot my Macbook Air, it boots up in an instant. It's even boot up faster than Acer laptops.

I don't even have to worry about virus and since becoming a Mac user, I rarely use any anti-virus. I heard Mac was used to produce movies such as Transformers and possibly Avatar. Therefore Mac rules.
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Mac, in general, was originally designed for Producers, Directors and Editor. These people use Mac to produce movies like Final Fantasy, Transformers, etc. Unfortunately during the previous era, Mac wasn't design to serve as function for enjoying entertainment instead it was only design for producing entertainment. Every student of Entertainment or people who work in any Entertainment industry must have a Mac to work on. It had been like that until late 2010. Mac has shift their gear.

Instead of being a computer for producing media, it can now play several media. Macbook Pro shockingly increases their processing and was able to run multiple games but not on its OS. People can use Macbook Pro to play a lot of games via "Bootcamp Assistance". Bootcamp Assistance allows Mac to run PC with the same processing speed.

People can say "Ah PC is better", "Mac is the best computer in the world", "Mac has to let user install PC", "PC got a lot of virus. Mac rules" etc but then again, when you are comparing for the best computer, the biggest question is "What are you comparing it with?"
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hei007 wrote:

i didn't feel like trolling this thread, but after seeing some replies i have to disagree with you guys. I agree mac's are good for editing videos, pictures, stuff like that, but PC's can get pretty much all the same software to edit, so aside from that i find no value in them. Even though it's a tried and overused argument, i have to point once again mac's are way too expensive. I saw a 1 gb video card for $1500 average. I'm getting a new one for $75 for my PC. Also, mac's aren't nearly as customizable as PC's (correct me if I'm wrong, i don't keep up with every single update/change). Mac's don't get viruses, because there has to be someone there to make it. Right now pretty much all hackers, virus creators, they're all on PC's. If ever the entire world ends up using Mac's (pray to God that won't happen), then you can be sure that there will be a crap load of virus' on it too.

Also one of the most important features of a computer:
GAMING. Seriously I've only seen like 1 or 2 mainstream games released for Mac's and those had to be modified and released later (E.g Starcraft 2 for Mac)

All in all, i have to really sum it up like this : Apple has basically been around the same time as PC, so there is no reason people should be blaming PC's success on Apple being in it's shadow. They both had their chance to be in the spotlight and PC got it. Mac's from what I know are more user friendly and easier to use, but when it comes down to it i have to go with PC.

Also, they use PC's in Pokemon. Win.

Facts:
* Yes, Macs do cost more.
* Yes, Adobe writes their software for both Windows and Mac. Do note, however, that Final Cut Pro is insanely good, and Mac-only.
* Yes, Macs are less customizable
* No, Macs CAN get viruses, although it is exceedingly rare, and the core OS of Windows in fact rock-solid and better secured than many OSes. The problem is that supporting old software is really complex, and Windows basically has to leave an open door, making it very vulnerable by necessity. Macs, in contrast, don't care much about legacy (although their APIs are way more polished and solid than Windows', and thus not very volatile), and the fact that Windows practically depends on Administrator (root) privileges, whereas Mac and Linux tend to avoid it unless necessary. With UAC, though, this is changing, but Windows users are already trained to accept virtually anything that comes their way. tl;dr - it's more of a user problem now than an OS problem, and Macs can - but rarely - get viruses.

One of the biggest selling points of Macs is that it just gets out of the way. I just fixed my dad's printer remotely using screen sharing on iChat. Painless. It rarely breaks (high-quality parts), but if it does, you just take it in and it gets fixed (and they loan you a computer in the meantime, too). Just drag applications into the Applications folder; in the case there's actually an installer needed, they are standardized (though .msi is standard on Windows, NSIS and others still make up a large share of installers). Stuff just works. This is true for programmers as well as novices. Those in between who have been running Windows for a long time might be more comfortable with Windows, because that sort of user isn't one that OS X specifically addresses.


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Arch owns all lol. I tried running it but I'm not nerdy enough so I suck with Ubuntu.

If programming, servers and virtualization is your thing, Linux is the way to go. For games stick with Windows (duh), and if you are a hipster get a mac. I've had all three and Linux is my fav by a long shot. But I am kinda a geek so yeah.


Arch is basically an easier version of FreeBSD, which I like runnig :v) - it's pretty good, if you want to customize everything but want to avoid the compile-everything-completely-from-source syndrome Gentoo suffers from.



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I find Mac more convenience than PC because it's way faster. When I boot my Macbook Air, it boots up in an instant. It's even boot up faster than Acer laptops.

I don't even have to worry about virus and since becoming a Mac user, I rarely use any anti-virus. I heard Mac was used to produce movies such as Transformers and possibly Avatar. Therefore Mac rules.


To be fair, SSDs aren't mac-only. But Windows is kind of too big and unwieldy to take care of fundamental changes in the assumptions of the speed of disk I/O right away. I bet a properly-tuned Linux would be as fast as or faster than OS X.


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Mac, in general, was originally designed for Producers, Directors and Editor. These people use Mac to produce movies like Final Fantasy, Transformers, etc. Unfortunately during the previous era, Mac wasn't design to serve as function for enjoying entertainment instead it was only design for producing entertainment. Every student of Entertainment or people who work in any Entertainment industry must have a Mac to work on. It had been like that until late 2010. Mac has shift their gear.

Instead of being a computer for producing media, it can now play several media. Macbook Pro shockingly increases their processing and was able to run multiple games but not on its OS. People can use Macbook Pro to play a lot of games via "Bootcamp Assistance". Bootcamp Assistance allows Mac to run PC with the same processing speed.

People can say "Ah PC is better", "Mac is the best computer in the world", "Mac has to let user install PC", "PC got a lot of virus. Mac rules" etc but then again, when you are comparing for the best computer, the biggest question is "What are you comparing it with?"


That's not even generally true. What happened was that Steve Jobs took a calligraphy class, and so he emphasized in the original design of the Mac that proper support for typography be built in to Macs. If not for him, we may very well have been stuck with monospaced sans-serif fonts for quite some time. It's because of this early head start that Mac grew fast in the publishing and graphics design industry, but to say it was originally designed specifically for them is to miss the point that Jobs wanted to build a revolutionary new interface for the home. To be fair, he succeeded so wildly that he was copied very fast, and Microsoft outcompeted him in reaching into the home, despite lacking the full experience Apple had produced. As douchey as Apple can come off, it is actually responsible for driving a great deal of innovation on all computer platforms.

It's also untrue that Mac has shifted gears drastically. Halo was originally a Mac exclusive, but Microsoft bought Bungie, and well, the rest is history. While it is true that Apple didn't take games as seriously in times past, Valve has helped change that. Its support for Mac has been a huge boon to the market for gaming on Mac, as it provides an excellent platform for developers to publish, and - crucially - to evaluate the market. Valve definitely has Apple's attention, as the recent 10.6.7 patch specifically addressed performance issues necessary for Portal 2 to run faster.

BTW, Boot Camp has been around for a long time now - ever since Mac moved to Intel.
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killar wrote:
Arch owns all lol. I tried running it but I'm not nerdy enough so I suck with Ubuntu.

If programming, servers and virtualization is your thing, Linux is the way to go. For games stick with Windows (duh), and if you are a hipster get a mac. I've had all three and Linux is my fav by a long shot. But I am kinda a geek so yeah.


Arch is basically an easier version of FreeBSD, which I like runnig :v) - it's pretty good, if you want to customize everything but want to avoid the compile-everything-completely-from-source syndrome Gentoo suffers from.


I ran Gentoo for about a year, loved it but got sick of compiling everything. I thought FreeBSD was the same 'compile everything' kinda system =/. But I haven't ran it in so long it may have changed. I know Gentoo can do binary's now so that makes it easier.

btw 'crunchyroll employee'? What do you do?
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killar wrote:
I ran Gentoo for about a year, loved it but got sick of compiling everything. I thought FreeBSD was the same 'compile everything' kinda system =/. But I haven't ran it in so long it may have changed. I know Gentoo can do binary's now so that makes it easier.

btw 'crunchyroll employee'? What do you do?


On FreeBSD pkg_add -r packagename downloads binaries (the -r looks it up on FreeBSD's servers). The ports system is pretty sweet, and I love it, but sometimes you just want the package.

I'm doing some of the Japanese mobile apps. We'll see what I work on in the coming months.
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