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Anime in American TV
Posted 2/15/11
Whaooo! Okay, so that was not needed, but I added it anyways because I love you... First post and basically first day on this web site, time to get the feel of this community and break the awkwaturtles shell.

Hello! I am Escrep and one out of 2 of you will want to stab me in my spleen (Warning: I have a metal spleen protector) So, this is my first day in these forums and the crunchyroll website as a whole and I wanted to make a topic to get to know some of you wonderful shining people, especially you, yes you! I'm very paranoid, but don't worry i'll love you all except that guy.


Oh, I put the real questions in bold so you can avoid my ramblings and stall tactics if you hate me (and by extention turtles... jerk.)

From the past few years, on basic cable, there's been some anime on cartoon network with 'toonami' which I thought was a rise of anime in America and that we would see more of it in the coming years but after a short run they got rid of toonami and moved Anime to late night with adult swime, while the quality of Anime has increased it still has seen less and less exposure. It went from week nights to week ends and to only one night of the week. Then there's the sci-fi, or syfy, where they have anime on Monday nights! So I find myself wondering how much anime has actually increased in the US.

Okay, whew, enough stalling to find a real thing to ask.. Hehe, I finally found something... *cough*

So how do you feel anime is exposed on basic TV Do you think there's a rise or that there's enough?

Do think that if anime (high-quality ones like the ones on crunchy roll) was shown during the day at better hours do you think there'll be a higher demand for it and eventually be more main stream, if so should it be subbed or dubed?

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I think that depends, is it just for say cable or dish or does that include over the air television. my thoughts are that most the don't watch anime either have no interest in it or feel that its just childish. if anime becomes more main stream than I think it might be more acceptable but I don't see it happening anytime soon. whether its subbed or dubbed is up to the companies that doesn't really matter much to me.

and welcome to the site, enjoy yourself. follow the rules and you won't have to keep looking over your shoulders.
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Posted 2/15/11
I think if they had more anime on t.v. it would bring a bigger fan base. But the only problem is that the anime they show now on t.v. is old anime compared to what you can watch online. If they started to get releases that are a-lot newer, they would get way better ratings I would think.

And it would have to be subbed for me and I think a-lot of people would agree that subbed would be the way to go. I feel that American dubs don't bring the proper emotion to anime. The characters sound way too young and sometimes it just don't seem like they even try to make it sound right.
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Posted 2/15/11
I would think that it may get censored pretty badly on tv that and the possible complaints from parents about the anime, and also it will probably be english dubbed(with a 99.99...% chance of it being) English dub is alright but I prefer english sub but I tend to watch both eng sub and eng dub version (whenever available). I, myself watching anime online, I go to crunchyroll.com, funimation.com, hulu.com, netflix.com, animenewsnetwork.com, and theanimenetwork.com to watch anime.I would encourage people to watch anime on those websites.
I think that having anime streamed online is better than having it on tv because it is on demand(basically) without having to wait to watch unless it is simulcast..



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Posted 2/15/11
The problem I have with anime on tv is the voice acting. You watch Bleach on Adult Swim and you here Nels voice after watching it in Japanese from 2 years ago and you cry because of how bad it is. Then you end up watching other series and you know they say the family name most times again example is bleach and you here where Inoue is always calling ichigo by his family name but in the english they have it as the given name instead. It makes no sense to do so especially if you watch family guy they do call quagmire by family name since his give name is glen. Again the dubs are aweful and since you start off with dubs you end up finding it on the interwebs like crunchyroll and nwanime.com and other sites that do the same. Mainly because you start picking up the honorifics and it makes more sense with most fansubs like dattibio and such that even sub the honorifics. As well just just transliterate onii-chan and like on Bleach Ichi-nii.
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Posted 2/15/11
they do a VERY poor job like 95% of the time transitioning it to english.

The only dubs im ok with are cowboy bebop and eva
Posted 2/15/11

eyeofspirits wrote:

The problem I have with anime on tv is the voice acting. You watch Bleach on Adult Swim and you here Nels voice after watching it in Japanese from 2 years ago and you cry because of how bad it is. Then you end up watching other series and you know they say the family name most times again example is bleach and you here where Inoue is always calling ichigo by his family name but in the english they have it as the given name instead. It makes no sense to do so especially if you watch family guy they do call quagmire by family name since his give name is glen. Again the dubs are aweful and since you start off with dubs you end up finding it on the interwebs like crunchyroll and nwanime.com and other sites that do the same. Mainly because you start picking up the honorifics and it makes more sense with most fansubs like dattibio and such that even sub the honorifics. As well just just transliterate onii-chan and like on Bleach Ichi-nii.


You make a good point.. I'd offer you a cookie but i'm under obligations to tell you it's been tampered with cyanide, but help yourself.

So if we had a channel that would be willing to bring more anime, espeically some of the new-er ones, with it's original language do you think there'd be more people who might watch it and get 'hooked'? And since there wouldn't be a huge delay with episodes and new series because of dubbing it would be alot more current and fluid. Seems like if the gnomes in my t.v. set did that then we could have a bigger rise with anime in the USA.

Anyone else think that anime movies being played in the silver screen like Spirited Away (Which also won an Oscar), Cowboy bebop (the movie, etc. is helping with broadening peoples stance on anime?
Posted 2/16/11
What? America has anime on TV? I thought that was ages ago they did interesting things like that. Actually, I watched 3 episodes of Dragon Ball Z Kai the other day. I don't know what posessed me to do so since I've finished Dragon Ball Z and seen about a million reruns. Must just because it really was that good. Gotta love classics.

I know there are shows located on other channels as well, but I never watch TV. But who needs TV when you have the internet and a site like Crunchy?
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Posted 2/17/11
The basic tv in Australia is very bad with anime, you hardly see anything.
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Posted 2/17/11
anime on TV in America was and sadly will always be a "FAD" it had it's high points back in the late 90's to the mid turn of the century but it lost steam and people just lost interest of watching anime on t.v and the mainstream audience was pushed away as well. The core fans where turned off also by the lack luster butchering by 4kids "one piece comes to mind" and the standards that had to air on American tv that where different than Japanese TV at the time. I will admit i do miss watching adult swim with old re-runs of anime all the time.
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Posted 2/17/11
Most kids that watch it in maerica probably think it`s a cartoon made in america :P
Most of the dubbing is horrible, I feel bad for the kids hehe.
And they censor away some of the "bad" stuff, so that jokes and cool lines become boring.
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Posted 2/17/11
The consensus so seems that to say that even if more anime was shown at better times on american TV it would mostly be for naught. I would have to say that even they started to show more current anime on TV it would be censored like none other. Most of the good stuff would be removed. Most of the stuff that has been shown over here was easily censored.

But could you image something like Seikon on Qwaser showing up on American TV? There would be no point because almost every scene would be missing.
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Posted 2/17/11
I wish it was shown on TV.
but some dubs just SUCK to badly to be put on air.

but few dubs I wouldnt mind but there is one dub I love.
Hetalia is a good dub. but you cant show that on TV because "people could get offended" yet EVERYONE knows its a joke and for the lolz.
and anyways that show makes fun of everybody.....
DBZ Kai is....ok. it gets kids into anime thats for sure.
bleach is a TERRIBLE dub. so is the series itself. too many fillers. thats why the manga is much better.

toonami would of been amazing but the reason why it died is because the voice actor for the toonami guy died....

if they said fairy tale is getting a dub I pray that its good. and hopefully end up on TV. >.> but just a big wish for that one....
K-on should go on TV too. dubs arent that terrible on that one.
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Posted 2/17/11 , edited 2/17/11
Oh I could probably rant endlessly on this subject.....but I'll try to keep it short....ish. (I failed, sorry, don't read it if it hurts your eyes haha)

It doesn't get any exposure these days in the States. I wonder if I would be who I am today if I had been born later then I was, I probably would have missed out on the anime boom of the 90's, or at least been unable to appreciate it. All those great animes of old....ah nostalgia......I have a very large HDD dedicated to you, old friend. Anyway, no, no exposure, and if "they" were to put more Anime on TV, it would be a waste of time. The American audience only cares about action packed garbage, the more enlightened people would be too small of a fan base as far as ratings go. That's just my cynical opinion though........but it is also based on my experiences when dealing with people.

Though I will point out that most of the Anime over the years (late 90's to today) that was aired was indeed just that, action packed shounen. A lot of it was good, don't get me wrong....but you don't see "High Minded" anime, or deep dramatic story-style anime being aired, do you? I know this might just sound like a lot of hate, but what I'm trying to point out is that there is just not a big enough fan base out there watching TV for there to be any real longevity or profit in the eyes of TV corps. BUT, the reality is, there is a market for it.....its just not going to be a smooth road for those corps and I think they're not willing to go out on a limb to make it work. With the right line up, it could work. Oh but yes, dubs suck for the most part.....I say go with subs, this country could use some culture. Why do we NEED to have it in English? Anyway, the voice acting community just isn't what it use to be, simply because there hasn't been much anime for them to work on.

Also, censorship cracks me up. A very light hearted skirt-blown up-in-the-wind scene where you can't see anything really, gets removed or editing like crazy (even if you could, you'd already have to be pretty pervy to get something from it), but somehow, its ok to have mindless and endless violence in DBZ where peoples limbs are getting blown off, etc.......no need to censor that apparently. But again, does anyone remember Zoids? Specifically Zero Century or whatever (Bit Cloud, Liger Zero, etc). Funny story....one day I stumbled upon some info and some "deleted scenes", and apparently....some scenes were removed from the U.S. TV version. And what were these horrible scenes you ask?.....Bit sitting on the couch in his boxers!......Gasp!.....wait, what? How is that an issue?......Oh look, someones arm got chopped off by a Destructo Disc (again) in DBZ.....oh right, back to the boxers.....

Bottom Line: No exposure. More anime could work with the right line up and good voice actors or subs, but its unlikely to succeed without hard work and trial and error. So it isn't going to happen.

Important Note: Before anyone chews me out - by "American Audience" I meant the general masses watching TV. Obviously there is a very large sector of Americans who can appreciate anime of all different types. There's just a lot of....less enlightened people mixed in :P.
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Posted 2/17/11

xly15 wrote:

The consensus so seems that to say that even if more anime was shown at better times on american TV it would mostly be for naught. I would have to say that even they started to show more current anime on TV it would be censored like none other. Most of the good stuff would be removed. Most of the stuff that has been shown over here was easily censored.

But could you image something like Seikon on Qwaser showing up on American TV? There would be no point because almost every scene would be missing.


Yosuga no Sora showing up on American TV that is close to impossible, Seikon no Qwaser (Censored) on Adultswim a possibility though very slim and also pointless (even the censored version of Seikon no Qwaser was annoying) I remember years back when I was watching FLCL, Paranoia Agent, Full Metal Alchemist...... on Adultswim
I could see that the only way for anime to be on TV would be if it was broadcasted in a special channel, one that you have to request to your cable provider for. I stopped watching tv years ago so if a anime channel did exist in future I would probably still stick to watching anime online on crunchyroll, funimation.com, animenewsnetwork, hulu.com,netflix....... may consider watching on tv.
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