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Bill 156 in Japan
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Bill 156 is an outrages bill and I don't think it is just going to effect people in Japan but world wide. I don't think that the Japanese government realizes how much people out side of Japan watch Anime. Especially since this bill could be deter mental to the Japanese Economy. Since the world as we know it is already in a financial hard ship this could just bring Japan up higher on the list as it is. I wonder that if this bill came in effect that there might be a Anime uprising. Like the uprising in Egypt. Well i guess all we can do is wait and see if this bill passes and if it does pass partition it till the day we leave this fine know existence that we live every day.
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Well, if the bill works as intended it could be good for anime. Too many anime recently has been all about the fan service, it gets annoying. However, too many GOOD anime adopted heavy fan service, and I would hate to lose them due to poor choices on the creators side... Part of me wants anime that has 0 fan service, but not at the cost of the already good anime that doesn't need such things.
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This bill is the business of Japan really and has nothing to do with us westerners. The OP is getting a little serious about it i don't see a mass uprising of super nerds who want to get their jollies off over anime. Egypt was an actual important political situation. Your collection of bondage hentai doujinshi is not an important political issue.

There are two sides to the coin it's really the argument that the content has become too sexualised and portrays women in all the wrong ways which is a touchy issue in Japan a country that is still taking proper steps towards womens rights and is typically a male dominated culture. So since womens rights is slowly becoming a more important issue over there things like this come up.

The other side of the coin is that art is art in all forms and to censor is would destroy peoples right to freedom of creativity. The people creating anime and manga do not want to be told how to create their art and if this bill passes they will be forced to agree to guidelines of what they can and can't do. But then where does creative freedom end and living out sick fantasies through art begin?


There is right and wrong on both sides.
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Ishihara has no right on his side, other than being a right-wing tool.

Otaku of the world, unite against censorship!
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there is a bit of info you might want to know, the governor that wrote the bill will not be running again for re-election. So if some one else gets into office there is a chance that it could be overturned but to be honest i am not to worried about it.
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Obviously those guys are anti-anime
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MrMoondoggie wrote:

This bill is the business of Japan really and has nothing to do with us westerners. The OP is getting a little serious about it i don't see a mass uprising of super nerds who want to get their jollies off over anime. Egypt was an actual important political situation. Your collection of bondage hentai doujinshi is not an important political issue.

There are two sides to the coin it's really the argument that the content has become too sexualised and portrays women in all the wrong ways which is a touchy issue in Japan a country that is still taking proper steps towards womens rights and is typically a male dominated culture. So since womens rights is slowly becoming a more important issue over there things like this come up.

The other side of the coin is that art is art in all forms and to censor is would destroy peoples right to freedom of creativity. The people creating anime and manga do not want to be told how to create their art and if this bill passes they will be forced to agree to guidelines of what they can and can't do. But then where does creative freedom end and living out sick fantasies through art begin?


There is right and wrong on both sides.


I can agree with this, though i still say anime has become too dependent on fan service. Anime doesn't really need it, but I suppose it's always been part of it.
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AS an american I strongly suggest any censorship of anime is played carefully...

TV producers over here have hard enough time as it is making money off of anime - back in the 90s you had uncensored shit like dragon ball z and yu yu hakusho on toonami and then they had the FCC laws stricken and toonami lost more than 70% of it's ratings and to this day never recovered, anime has become a joke in america people like VIZ media dubbing them and making them kids cartoons - this isnt what people want, why do governments feel that shit must be overly sensitized and censored when the majority of the public just doesnt give a fuck...?

I understand women have rights and if women can get as equal as the US has been with women over in japan then hip pip KAZAA!

but why do you have to censor my anime?

if you censor my anime, then why can't i go to a museum and put a blanket over the "thinkers" penis

fucking worthless idiots.

anyone who is for censorship has no respect for other people, their creativity, and what they stand for.

anime is entertainment. if you dont like certain kinds of entertainment then get over yourself and stop watching it jesus fuuuuu
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MrMoondoggie wrote:

This bill is the business of Japan really and has nothing to do with us westerners. The OP is getting a little serious about it i don't see a mass uprising of super nerds who want to get their jollies off over anime. Egypt was an actual important political situation. Your collection of bondage hentai doujinshi is not an important political issue.

There are two sides to the coin it's really the argument that the content has become too sexualised and portrays women in all the wrong ways which is a touchy issue in Japan a country that is still taking proper steps towards womens rights and is typically a male dominated culture. So since womens rights is slowly becoming a more important issue over there things like this come up.

The other side of the coin is that art is art in all forms and to censor is would destroy peoples right to freedom of creativity. The people creating anime and manga do not want to be told how to create their art and if this bill passes they will be forced to agree to guidelines of what they can and can't do. But then where does creative freedom end and living out sick fantasies through art begin?


There is right and wrong on both sides.


what gets me is there is tons and i mean TONS of scans, translations and other things for doujins and h-manga online so why would some really want to buy any and risk breaking the obscenity law where it is actually illegal to order porn through intentional waters? Being a loli fan my self i get out a bit but that is something I have learned to keep to myself when making freinds that like anime like I do. I do understand irashi logic behind the law but what gets me is the fact the has actually written rape novels and other things of the such so I just don't think he really should have a say in it but that is just me. What's even more funny is this will not affect anime porn in the least all it's going since that has to be sold to people over the age of 18 as it is, it only affects mainstream anime like to love ru or kiss x sis from being sold to minor's which the ironic thing is most minors can not afford to buy anime due to the fact it cost 60-100 dollars for a 2/3 epiosde dvd or bluray. I hardly think most minors have that kind of cash laying around to buy it, this is not Ore no Imouto after all >_>. This aside even a perv like me has grown a little wary of all the crap out lately "qwaser" comes to mind but I look at this way somethings are just not meant to be seen by us.
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Barghesto wrote:

Well, if the bill works as intended it could be good for anime. Too many anime recently has been all about the fan service, it gets annoying. However, too many GOOD anime adopted heavy fan service, and I would hate to lose them due to poor choices on the creators side... Part of me wants anime that has 0 fan service, but not at the cost of the already good anime that doesn't need such things.


If you don't like fanservice, don't buy it, don't watch it. You can even boycott, or write letters to publishers. That's all fine, but advocating censorship because you just don't like something is basically saying, "Government should censor art and culture according to my personal taste", and that is a very selfish position to take IMO.
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im kinda against it because you know not all animes have 'sexual content' in it. that bill would be pretty good for animes that are for adults though like hentai and stuff... and one thing.. why did they allow to publish an anime/manga that has 'sexual content' in it and then theyre gonna make that bill. they should have had not allowed it in the first place..

and... theyre taking away the fun for us people who love anime. and not just for us of course.. the people who work on animations and stuff will lose their jobs.
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From what I have seen, regarding manga/anime in Japan, they have only 2 age groups.
Everyone, in here is everything that´s not considered hentai.
18+ Here you have the hentai.

Personaly I see a problem with this. Would have been better to use a rating system for what material suits what age group... like we have in Europe and the US.

But instead they went with a bill that is rather open for personal opinion of whomever is doing the censuring.
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Barghesto wrote:

Well, if the bill works as intended it could be good for anime. Too many anime recently has been all about the fan service, it gets annoying. However, too many GOOD anime adopted heavy fan service, and I would hate to lose them due to poor choices on the creators side... Part of me wants anime that has 0 fan service, but not at the cost of the already good anime that doesn't need such things.


yes exactly.
I dont want anime to go away, but there is too much fanservice that ruins the anime.

so fans, shutup and let the anime do its job!
and writers, ignore 3/4 of fanservice!
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BartFargo wrote:


Barghesto wrote:

Well, if the bill works as intended it could be good for anime. Too many anime recently has been all about the fan service, it gets annoying. However, too many GOOD anime adopted heavy fan service, and I would hate to lose them due to poor choices on the creators side... Part of me wants anime that has 0 fan service, but not at the cost of the already good anime that doesn't need such things.


If you don't like fan service, don't buy it, don't watch it. You can even boycott, or write letters to publishers. That's all fine, but advocating censorship because you just don't like something is basically saying, "Government should censor art and culture according to my personal taste", and that is a very selfish position to take IMO.


I don't think you quite got what I meant. Yes, I do not like fan service, but sadly, most of the good anime has it, but it doesn't need it, so if this bill passes we will lose a lot of GOOD anime. Also, fan service isn't art. If you consider a nude body art, go look at real girls without clothing on, not animated drawings. I don think I'm being selfish, i think people are just not seeing the big picture here. Too many anime are relying on fan service to get their viewers, most of the ones I watch have less comments about the cool battle scenes and more about the fact one of the characters were nude, then I might go back through older comments and see one or maybe two about the fighting, then an episode with great character development is ignored cause there is a bath scene and everyone going crazy about it. Heck it went so far as the following episode people were wondering when the character got his new power, which was in the previous episode, but I guess everyone was too blinded by, you know, all the fan service to notice that important piece of information, and this happens a lot. I think it would be better if they at least toned down the fan service, personally I would like to see it removed as it adds nothing to the story, cause rarely is it used in as comical fashion, which is fine cause I love to laugh, but I'm not gonna get all excited cause the main female is nude in a bath, and I'm not gonna stop watching anime with fan service cause it appears a good 75% or more of anime has it. So, yeah, like i said I have mixed feelings about the bill on the one hand it'll make greater anime on the other hand, it'll have to destroy already good anime, which I really don't want to happen. As it stands, I am not the only one who believes this bill could be good for anime, I also believe it could be bad. I also know, no matter what we do, if they wanna pass this bill, much like the bill in the US where the internet is going to be censored, no matter how much we protest, it wont do a thing. I've signed petitions to stop unfair bills, we get around 400k petitioners and it did a whole lot of... nothing, made no difference even though we only needed 200k (can't remember what bill I was opposing, it was a long time ago) you could protest this bill till you are blue in the face, along with every other anime lover in the world, and it wont change a thing, the government never listens to the people, and I doubt we'll go so far as to use force, as it would be silly to even think of going that far. In short, you have valid points, but you can't go and accuse me of being selfish for my views on things, I'm allowed my own personal opinion, after all.
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this pretty much sums democracy or any government in a nutshell.
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