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I have to agree with you there, so so true.
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I would be surprised if the bill carries because too many business would lose money if the damaging effect is true. I would find it highly unlikely a bill that would harm tax revenue and income would pass. I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't more of a political hype to get attention for one-self rather than actually succeed at getting the bill passed. Politicians all do that, raise a lot of hype for media and not be concerned whether they succeed or not. But it could be the opposite, a need to try clean up culture much like when Japan closed its borders during (I think it was) the Edo period. Either way lets see what happens, anime will adapt if need be and who knows it could actually lead to some really good stuff.
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Kodess wrote:

I would be surprised if the bill carries because too many business would lose money if the damaging effect is true. I would find it highly unlike a bill that would harm tax revenue and income would pass. I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't more of a political hype to get attention for one-self rather than actually succeed at getting the bill passed. Politicians all do that, raise a lot of hype for media and not be concerned whether they succeed or not. But it could be the opposite, a need to try clean up culture much like when Japan closed its borders during (I think it was) the Edo period. Either way lets see what happens, anime will adapt if need be and who knows it could actually lead to some really good stuff.


I agree, it could bring good things to anime. I got flamed for saying that, but it is true.
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Kodess wrote:

I would be surprised if the bill carries because too many business would lose money if the damaging effect is true. I would find it highly unlike a bill that would harm tax revenue and income would pass. I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't more of a political hype to get attention for one-self rather than actually succeed at getting the bill passed. Politicians all do that, raise a lot of hype for media and not be concerned whether they succeed or not. But it could be the opposite, a need to try clean up culture much like when Japan closed its borders during (I think it was) the Edo period. Either way lets see what happens, anime will adapt if need be and who knows it could actually lead to some really good stuff.


funny part irashi is not running for re-election this term. I like some of my pervy anime "to love ru" I really do but sometimes i do want something more but as I have stated before somethings due to the net, torrents and so forth are just not meant to be seen by western culture or viewers. I also find this funny that he made his security "he didn't have the balls" to buy ero manga him self to read to get the gist of what he was purposing to ban to sell to minors "oh wait those are meant for people 18 plus and not affected by the bill"
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I wonder if anyone would committ suicide like when doraemon "ended." I don't want anyone but anime is powerful
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I wonder if anyone would committ suicide like when doraemon "ended." I don't want anyone but anime is powerful


I hope not, it really isn't worth going that far....
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LelouchKyonConan wrote:

I wonder if anyone would committ suicide like when doraemon "ended." I don't want anyone but anime is powerful


I hope not, it really isn't worth going that far....


well...... I grew up with doraemon! but I am not willing to die for it
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LelouchKyonConan wrote:


Barghesto wrote:


LelouchKyonConan wrote:

I wonder if anyone would committ suicide like when doraemon "ended." I don't want anyone but anime is powerful


I hope not, it really isn't worth going that far....


well...... I grew up with doraemon! but I am not willing to die for it


It's kinda hard for me to wrap my mind around someone killing themselves over an anime (much like how a guy killed himself because he could not finish everquest....)
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LOL what? everquest? that's crazy too
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Yeah, considering you... kinda CAN'T beat everquest....it never truly ends, ever. It has all sorts of things to do. A lot of games are everquest based, since they game continues even after clearing the main storyline (guess one could call that "beating" it) but the game doesn't end.
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Posted 2/27/11 , edited 2/27/11
Sums up Ishihara's (the girl with twintails wearing white) view:


Comic can be bought here -> http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/switch-language/product/B004H0OCYY/ref=dp_change_lang?ie=UTF8&language=en_JP
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funny part irashi is not running for re-election this term. I like some of my pervy anime "to love ru" I really do but sometimes i do want something more but as I have stated before somethings due to the net, torrents and so forth are just not meant to be seen by western culture or viewers. I also find this funny that he made his security "he didn't have the balls" to buy ero manga him self to read to get the gist of what he was purposing to ban to sell to minors "oh wait those are meant for people 18 plus and not affected by the bill"


Maybe not but someone in his party is likely to benefit in the hype or hope to draw on it. Plus there's always the idea that he's looking to go out with a bang in his career at this stage. Lets also consider that there is a lot of smut, I'm refering to the underage stuff. Which seems to be what the bill is "supposedly" more geared for. And yes the anime that doesn't draw on that will be affected. But the anime industry makes a lot of money and money pays for campaigning, its not going to die over this. It started before these kinds of bills, it'll survive after.

Consider the US's censorship to anime. Sailor Moon got edited to cut out 5 or 6 episodes due to concerns over incest, murder and death. The incest part was stupid. It was her little brother having a crush on Sailor Moon not knowing she was his sister. I don't remember anyone editing Star Wars when Leia kissed Luke. Characters were even changed over homosexual concerns. Voltron got edited to avoid the death in the first few episodes. Pokemon suffered it due to bikini cross dressing bit (stupid reason). One Piece, the cook got changed so that he had a sucker instead of a cigarette in the televised versions. Theres tons more.

I enjoy the ocassional skirt fly ups, the bouncing cleavage, bath house scenes and such fanservice as well but I can also agree that some animes rely on it too much. Overall if the bill passes its not going to end everything. There'll be changes but world of anime will go on, maybe a few less panty shots but then you can savour them even more.
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Posted 2/27/11
It is sad that the state of the world (not just Anime and Manga) is all about "Sex Sells". I've seen a few too many pure "Boing" episodes, lately here on CR that I can feel where the Japanese govt is coming from. But the "Freedom of Speech" lover in me does not like that bill one bit. But there really is nothing that any of us (Americans) can do about it. Japan doesn't have to follow the same rules we do when it comes to free speech, etc. They have to do what they think is right for their people. We are just bi-standers who just happen to love what they create and share. So it's a real catch 22.

I personally think that if the language was stronger in regards to the excessive use of sexual themes in Manga/Anime then it would curb all this sub-par anime coming out and still leave plenty of room for nice fan-service. Hell, I for one really like the sexuality in some anime, but only if it's not over-the-top-that's-all-we-got.

Anyway, that's all I got on that subject.

Gonna ride that fence all the way to the next Anime Con.
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Kodess wrote:


Consider the US's censorship to anime. Sailor Moon got edited to cut out 5 or 6 episodes due to concerns over incest, murder and death. The incest part was stupid. It was her little brother having a crush on Sailor Moon not knowing she was his sister. I don't remember anyone editing Star Wars when Leia kissed Luke. Characters were even changed over homosexual concerns. Voltron got edited to avoid the death in the first few episodes. Pokemon suffered it due to bikini cross dressing bit (stupid reason). One Piece, the cook got changed so that he had a sucker instead of a cigarette in the televised versions. Theres tons more.


It's kinda funny that the fanbase got so upset with the Americans heavy handedness to anime censorship and now the Japanese are even censoring things in many areas although mostly related to things like Shonen anime that are aimed at younger kids. They have in the past been extreamly violent and that's been toned down a lot recently and also from what i was told they are not allowed to flip the bird anymore in kids shows which used to happen a lot. I guess they figured out what it actually means and that it's probably not suitable for kids lol.

I think censorship is something that comes with an ever changing society and especially one that grows as fast as Japan. As they go they are getting different ideas about what is and is not acceptable and change things as a society. And that works the same in any country.

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Lets just hope they are not making the same mistakes the US is, thinking that cleaning up the entertainment industry will result a sudden drop in behavioral problems in children. I don't remember the comedian's name but he talked about censorship and the udea tv maybe too violent for kids. His joke was to take Looney Tunes as an example I may have been a child but understanding reality and fiction wasn't that hard. I loved Roadrunner and Coyote cartoons but I never got the ambition to strap a rocket to arse and chase a scrawney bird across the desert. If you're kids are that easily influence and you can't set them straight then the material on tv is the least concern.
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