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Subliminal Messages In Disney Movies
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Posted 4/26/11 , edited 4/26/11
some of these just look like visual coincidence that people read too much upon.

Hey! Don't read too much into kid movies they are just movies. Little kids won't think too much of what happens in a movie and people shouldn't either.

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Posted 5/3/11

treegurl84 wrote:

some of these just look like visual coincidence that people read too much upon.

Hey! Don't read too much into kid movies they are just movies. Little kids won't think too much of what happens in a movie and people shouldn't either.



Agreed, thanks for putting peace in this thread
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Posted 5/9/11
Honestly, you try drawing Ariel for 6 months and not put a penis somewhere on her. Gotta love that fish half.
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Posted 5/9/11

HibiscusKazeneko wrote:


ZenZaku wrote:


HibiscusKazeneko wrote:



As I have stated in other threads, Disney has drawn a lot of ire over the years for its use of its position as a "family-friendly" company to force-feed harmful messages to children, e.g. the views highlighted in the videos above (that it's OK for a man to imprison and dehumanize a woman and she just has to suck it up, that girls have to work to look a certain way or else they're not worth anything, etc.).
What really disgusts me about this whole ordeal is that they used this same tactic to sell out Hayao Miyazaki and thereby taint his works with their racism, sexism and homophobia.
The reason people might call these messages "subliminal" is because children don't recognize them until years down the line, and in the meantime they imitate the characters in the movies and perpetuate the viewpoints our society has been working for over a century to eradicate. And sadly, often times parents don't catch on either as they are drawn in by the "nostalgia trap," or they are too busy reminiscing about how they loved the same movies as children and don't stop to think what kind of harm they were done and they are doing by proxy to their own children.


Wait, they did this to Miyazaki's films too? Odd, I never noticed anything wrong with the ones I've seen so far.


Yes. They severely altered the scripts for most if not all the Miyazaki movies they've done. For example, in the original script for Kiki's Delivery Service, Kiki lost her ability to hear her cat Jiji talk, but in the 1997 dub, he loses his ability to talk on his own and regains it at the end. And more famously, Castle in the Sky had its entire ending rewritten, lots of background chatter and lines added in and several literary references removed. I must admit the newer dubs seem truer to the original than the older ones, but they still reek of stereotypical Disney shallowness.


I personally liked both of the dubs for "Kiki" and "Castle" just fine; those alterations were hardly detrimental to the enjoyment of the films IMO, and I think the whole argument that they "butchered" Miyazaki is totally overblown. I actually didn't know that Jiji wasn't supposed to talk again at the end of the film until I learned about it, but even then, that's no reason for me to dislike the dub at all.

Also, "Castle"'s entire ending rewritten? I'm sorry, but I found that the script adaptation was fairly faithful for the climactic moments for the most part -- my only quibble at the end was the alteration of Sheeta's speech which was out of place -- but even then, it was only just one second. The core storyline was not altered in any way, so even a change like that is fine with me, and never struck me as a case of Disney "corrupting" Ghibli at all. Sometimes some things HAVE to be changed in order to appeal to an audience; some things just don't translate well. And Miyazaki and Ghibli had to have the final say on their scripts.

I don't think Disney's dubs for "Kiki" and "Castle" are perfect, but they're absolutely not bad in any way, and I don't agree with this viewpoint in the least.
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Posted 5/10/11
The subliminal messages in Super Mario 3 are better!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUlWtrmH_vs
It's fucking crazy
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Preyar wrote:

The subliminal messages in Super Mario 3 are better!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUlWtrmH_vs
It's fucking crazy


Super Mega Death Christ 2000, holy shit. If that isn't one of the funniest videos I've seen in a while... Well actually it is.
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i dont know if this is disney but the ugly duckling is racist . when he was black he was called ugly and everyone hated him , when he became white every one called him beautiful and wanted to be his frnd.

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yes i no. watch the movie called the arrivals and u wud c the world differently an also mit wud change ur opinion on the world
Posted 10/3/11
Actually analyzed a lot of these things about Disney movies in AP. I think they are being too analytical though. Sometimes, it just happens. Books are like that, too, sometimes; where the author really has no purpose on what they choose to use or all that other sort but just want to write them down onto paper, according to Stephen King.
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Posted 10/3/11
illuminati own disney.
Posted 10/4/11
lol these are very funny
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Posted 2/9/12
Some of that stuf is really fucked up!
Posted 2/9/12
Wondering why they didn't make the bright colored parrot dark and ugly like his master in that one movie.
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