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Is Mental Illness still Taboo?
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Posted 3/27/11
http://www.mind.org.uk/news/4748_new_campaign_calls_for_england_to_get_talking_to_tackle_mental_illness_taboo

Two out of three people are forced into silence about their own mental health problems, despite it being a wide course for concern.

Do you care if someone has a mental illness, or can you still see the person they are despite their disability? Would you be put off if a date confided in you that they had a certain unstable disposition? Do you you think more should done to help the fight against the social stigma?

Posted 3/27/11
What do you mean??? D-I-S-A-B-L-I-T-Y??

Hell, just give me some of your vodka and cranberry and I am good to go...

I'm crazier than 7 owls, thank ya very much...

Now off you go now...cuz your milkshake brings all the boyz to da yard...

LOL


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Posted 3/27/11 , edited 3/27/11
It's classed as a disability in official eyes.
Posted 3/27/11
Self-proclaimed 'experts' giving impractical and un-realistic advice.

Been there, done that....
Posted 3/27/11 , edited 3/28/11

Blackbirdxxx wrote:

What do you mean??? D-I-S-A-B-L-I-T-Y??

Hell, just give me some of your vodka and cranberry and I am good to go...

I'm crazier than 7 owls, thank ya very much...

Now off you go now...cuz your milkshake brings all the boyz to da yard...

LOL

Blackbirdxxx wrote:

Self-proclaimed 'experts' giving impractical and un-realistic advice.

Been there, done that....
Are these aggressive attitude helping anyone but yourself in the long run? Keep in mind that your stereotypical comments only serve to justify the "not in my backyard" mentality towards vulnerable individuals who need help. Which is a well known societal form of unethical discrimination, to the point of abuse due to prejudice.

Now, going back to the issue at hand. It's becoming apparent that mental illness can be caused by dogmatic and inhumane forms of institutionalization process. And psychosocial subjection of negativity can disable individuals on an emotional level. Although a variety of mentally ill individuals can become amazingly talented members of our society, but that would require a societal and cultural reexamination on the meaning and value of social justice. Utilizing the healing power of art, the advantage of collaborative learning through mentoring, and new scientific understanding on treating specific mental illnesses.

So what's causing all these taboos surrounding mentally ill individuals? When they're often times not as scary as the mainstream mass medias made them out to be. Well it's got a lot to do with humans' own cognitive limitation and biases, that's making us all kinda stupid and dumbfounded, in our own very predictable ways. Cases to point: 1)as long as a group of people collectively don't know the objective truth about mental illnesses, their own mind will automatically imagine wild speculations to fill out the information gaps. 2)people mindlessly aping and trusting authorities, when they actually don't have a clue. 3)there's a thin line between real confidence at knowing what to do, than an illusion of control that's actually nothing short of an ego boost. And 4)We're very negative at emotionally overestimating losses in every conceivable ways possible.

In short, while some of us are insane in very unique ways. The majority of us OTOH are evolutionary stupid in a very predicable pattern.
Posted 3/29/11
Well, Mr. Carbokill, I don't like you.

But according to you, your age is 17, that makes you a child....one that called me out first, "troll bait" and "emo chic" I believe...??

Naughty little bug aren't you?

but I could give a tinkers dam what you think of me!!!

Yes, I am aware Dom..that what I wrote is pure rubbish...

because, like your ex, I have had issues controlling my emotions....

I get very, very angry...

Less said, the better...

Let me just say, it was on my part, sarcasm and a self defense mechanism kicking in...

Sorry to be upsetting and rude....

But, Emo I am not...
Posted 3/29/11 , edited 3/29/11

Blackbirdxxx wrote:

Well, Mr. Carbokill, I don't like you.

But according to you, your age is 17, that makes you a child....one that called me out first, "troll bait" and "emo chic" I believe...??

Naughty little bug aren't you?

but I could give a tinkers dam what you think of me!!!

Yes, I am aware Dom..that what I wrote is pure rubbish...

because, like your ex, I have had issues controlling my emotions....

I get very, very angry...

Less said, the better...

Let me just say, it was on my part, sarcasm and a self defense mechanism kicking in...

Sorry to be upsetting and rude....

But, Emo I am not...
I just want you to be aware that our history had shown us time and again, that our anger can manifest itself into a rational that's often biased, and definitely wronging humanity as a whole.

And in the 21th century, those of us in power still hadn't learn their lessons from history.
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I think people are woefully ignorant in out many live with mental illnesses. This is why I try to live with the concept to be considerate, since everyone is fighting a hard battle. It has become too mainstream to be callous and hurtful in communications because they are now so impersonal. I personally take medication for dysthymia and episodes of major depressive disorder that would debilitate me. All it would take was someone thinking they were being high and mighty to say something to me and I'd end up in a downward spiral of negativity.

I wrote an insightful blog on the subject here: http://immodestamerican.wordpress.com/2011/01/16/common-concerns-of-a-typical-depressive/

Unfortunately, many stereotypes are associated with those suffering from depression, be it that they should just suck it up or that they are attention seekers. It is also startling to me how little threats of suicide are taken seriously on the internet.
Posted 3/29/11

Commodore_Octopus wrote:

I think people are woefully ignorant in out many live with mental illnesses. This is why I try to live with the concept to be considerate, since everyone is fighting a hard battle. It has become too mainstream to be callous and hurtful in communications because they are now so impersonal. I personally take medication for dysthymia and episodes of major depressive disorder that would debilitate me. All it would take was someone thinking they were being high and mighty to say something to me and I'd end up in a downward spiral of negativity.

I wrote an insightful blog on the subject here: http://immodestamerican.wordpress.com/2011/01/16/common-concerns-of-a-typical-depressive/

Unfortunately, many stereotypes are associated with those suffering from depression, be it that they should just suck it up or that they are attention seekers. It is also startling to me how little threats of suicide are taken seriously on the internet.
I have my own take on these issues, such as regarding the systemic change from real life to Internet communication, the ineffective form of Argument Culture, how social life being framed by the mainstream culture, and the nature of inequality.
Posted 3/29/11
I have my own little private collection of them, and it has been a burden I bore all my life. They don't stop me from at least finding some things to keep me amused, but as for any true happiness... it's hard to say. Mentally ill people will always be on the receiving end of ridicule, and the taboo is based completely on the ignorance of oppressors who lack any compassion. They are mentally ill, themselves.
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In the end don't hate me for what I am about to say.. I am just taking my understanding of it through a logical scientific means..

Human are animals. It is in no underneath an animal to avoid or even in extremist cases kill the handicap, or sick of their kind.
Its a built in instinct that even human have.. So why people do not acknowledge or in times avoid the deformed, or mental handicap is do to instinct.

As humans we have to think logically in order to get over that survival mechanism built in us. (that is why so many humans fail to do so..) Lets face it 80% to 90% of the human species do not like think for them selves.
Posted 3/29/11

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:

In the end don't hate me for what I am about to say.. I am just taking my understanding of it through a logical scientific means..

Human are animals. It is in no underneath an animal to avoid or even in extremist cases kill the handicap, or sick of their kind.
Its a built in instinct that even human have.. So why people do not acknowledge or in times avoid the deformed, or mental handicap is do to instinct.

As humans we have to think logically in order to get over that survival mechanism built in us. (that is why so many humans fail to do so..) Lets face it 80% to 90% of the human species do not like think for them selves.


It's called the pecking order. It is observed in baby chickens when they peck a malformed chick to death so it doesn't suffer or breed, hence the name pecking order.
Posted 3/29/11

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I have my own little private collection of them, and it has been a burden I bore all my life. They don't stop me from at least finding some things to keep me amused, but as for any true happiness... it's hard to say. Mentally ill people will always be on the receiving end of ridicule, and the taboo is based completely on the ignorance of oppressors who lack any compassion. They are mentally ill, themselves.

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:

In the end don't hate me for what I am about to say.. I am just taking my understanding of it through a logical scientific means..

Human are animals. It is in no underneath an animal to avoid or even in extremist cases kill the handicap, or sick of their kind.
Its a built in instinct that even human have.. So why people do not acknowledge or in times avoid the deformed, or mental handicap is do to instinct.


As humans we have to think logically in order to get over that survival mechanism built in us. (that is why so many humans fail to do so..) Lets face it 80% to 90% of the human species do not like think for them selves.

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It's called the pecking order. It is observed in baby chickens when they peck a malformed chick to death so it doesn't suffer or breed, hence the name pecking order.
Come on, guys! That kinda attitude only serves to propagate the predisposed human cognitive biases, they're not helping anyone:

DomFortress wrote:

So what's causing all these taboos surrounding mentally ill individuals? When they're often times not as scary as the mainstream mass medias made them out to be. Well it's got a lot to do with humans' own cognitive limitation and biases, that's making us all kinda stupid and dumbfounded, in our own very predictable ways. Cases to point: 1)as long as a group of people collectively don't know the objective truth about mental illnesses, their own mind will automatically imagine wild speculations to fill out the information gaps. 2)people mindlessly aping and trusting authorities, when they actually don't have a clue. 3)there's a thin line between real confidence at knowing what to do, than an illusion of control that's actually nothing short of an ego boost. And 4)We're very negative at emotionally overestimating losses in every conceivable ways possible.

In short, while some of us are insane in very unique ways. The majority of us OTOH are evolutionary stupid in a very predicable pattern.
Especially when we do have the cultural practices for genuine compassion; kindness, curiosity, and engagement.

And since the context and complexity of the human brain is different than of a chicken's, if we can conceptualize compassion within our culture, then is it that much of a stretch for humanity to be capable of more?

The love for all living creatures is the most noble attribute of man.

There is no fundamental difference between man and the higher animals in their mental faculties... The lower animals, like man, manifestly feel pleasure and pain, happiness, and misery.
-- Charles Darwin (1809-1882)
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Darkphoenix3450 wrote:

In the end don't hate me for what I am about to say.. I am just taking my understanding of it through a logical scientific means..

Human are animals. It is in no underneath an animal to avoid or even in extremist cases kill the handicap, or sick of their kind.
Its a built in instinct that even human have.. So why people do not acknowledge or in times avoid the deformed, or mental handicap is do to instinct.

As humans we have to think logically in order to get over that survival mechanism built in us. (that is why so many humans fail to do so..) Lets face it 80% to 90% of the human species do not like think for them selves.


It's called the pecking order. It is observed in baby chickens when they peck a malformed chick to death so it doesn't suffer or breed, hence the name pecking order.


I know that.. I was just explaining why we act the way we do dealing with the handicap, or sick.
If I was not explaining why,,, and just pointing out what the resin is with no explanation I would have used those two words.
Posted 3/29/11

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


Pitch-black wrote:


Darkphoenix3450 wrote:

In the end don't hate me for what I am about to say.. I am just taking my understanding of it through a logical scientific means..

Human are animals. It is in no underneath an animal to avoid or even in extremist cases kill the handicap, or sick of their kind.
Its a built in instinct that even human have.. So why people do not acknowledge or in times avoid the deformed, or mental handicap is do to instinct.

As humans we have to think logically in order to get over that survival mechanism built in us. (that is why so many humans fail to do so..) Lets face it 80% to 90% of the human species do not like think for them selves.


It's called the pecking order. It is observed in baby chickens when they peck a malformed chick to death so it doesn't suffer or breed, hence the name pecking order.


I know that.. I was just explaining why we act the way we do dealing with the handicap, or sick.
If I was not explaining why,,, and just pointing out what the resin is with no explanation I would have used those two words.


Or we also have our social hierarchy ladder known as The Pecking Order. Invalids come last.
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