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Is Mental Illness still Taboo?
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Posted 3/29/11 , edited 3/29/11

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Pitch-black wrote:

I have my own little private collection of them, and it has been a burden I bore all my life. They don't stop me from at least finding some things to keep me amused, but as for any true happiness... it's hard to say. Mentally ill people will always be on the receiving end of ridicule, and the taboo is based completely on the ignorance of oppressors who lack any compassion. They are mentally ill, themselves.

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In the end don't hate me for what I am about to say.. I am just taking my understanding of it through a logical scientific means..

Human are animals. It is in no underneath an animal to avoid or even in extremist cases kill the handicap, or sick of their kind.
Its a built in instinct that even human have.. So why people do not acknowledge or in times avoid the deformed, or mental handicap is do to instinct.


As humans we have to think logically in order to get over that survival mechanism built in us. (that is why so many humans fail to do so..) Lets face it 80% to 90% of the human species do not like think for them selves.

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It's called the pecking order. It is observed in baby chickens when they peck a malformed chick to death so it doesn't suffer or breed, hence the name pecking order.
Come on, guys! That kinda attitude only serves to propagate the predisposed human cognitive biases, they're not helping anyone:

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So what's causing all these taboos surrounding mentally ill individuals? When they're often times not as scary as the mainstream mass medias made them out to be. Well it's got a lot to do with humans' own cognitive limitation and biases, that's making us all kinda stupid and dumbfounded, in our own very predictable ways. Cases to point: 1)as long as a group of people collectively don't know the objective truth about mental illnesses, their own mind will automatically imagine wild speculations to fill out the information gaps. 2)people mindlessly aping and trusting authorities, when they actually don't have a clue. 3)there's a thin line between real confidence at knowing what to do, than an illusion of control that's actually nothing short of an ego boost. And 4)We're very negative at emotionally overestimating losses in every conceivable ways possible.

In short, while some of us are insane in very unique ways. The majority of us OTOH are evolutionary stupid in a very predicable pattern.
Especially when we do have the cultural practices for genuine compassion; kindness, curiosity, and engagement.

And since the context and complexity of the human brain is different than of a chicken's, if we can conceptualize compassion within our culture, then is it that much of a stretch for humanity to be capable of more?

The love for all living creatures is the most noble attribute of man.

There is no fundamental difference between man and the higher animals in their mental faculties... The lower animals, like man, manifestly feel pleasure and pain, happiness, and misery.
-- Charles Darwin (1809-1882)


We might be more adapt at reasoning leaving us to using such things as compassion.. but it does not remove are underlining first reaction do to are primitive brain known as instinct.

Like I said.. Logic and sound judgment leads to better understanding.. But we still have are primal brain that will affect are actions, unless we are well familiarized with handicap.. like experience... understanding.. and Knowledge.
Posted 3/30/11

Pitch-black wrote:



Or we also have our social hierarchy ladder known as The Pecking Order. Invalids come last.

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:



We might be more adapt at reasoning leaving us to using such things as compassion.. but it does not remove are underlining first reaction do to are primitive brain known as instinct.

Like I said.. Logic and sound judgment leads to better understanding.. But we still have are primal brain that will affect are actions, unless we are well familiarized with handicap.. like experience... understanding.. and Knowledge.
Then I suggest both of you apply the science of ethics and social justice, in order to counteract the human cognitive limitations of conformation bias and illusion of control. And hopefully you can see just who's being unjustly made invalid, by those that are wealthy and in power, but obviously unethical.
Posted 3/30/11

DomFortress wrote:


Pitch-black wrote:



Or we also have our social hierarchy ladder known as The Pecking Order. Invalids come last.

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:



We might be more adapt at reasoning leaving us to using such things as compassion.. but it does not remove are underlining first reaction do to are primitive brain known as instinct.

Like I said.. Logic and sound judgment leads to better understanding.. But we still have are primal brain that will affect are actions, unless we are well familiarized with handicap.. like experience... understanding.. and Knowledge.
Then I suggest both of you apply the science of ethics and social justice, in order to counteract the human cognitive limitations of conformation bias and illusion of control. And hopefully you can see just who's being unjustly made invalid, by those that are wealthy and in power, but obviously unethical.


It's not that I don't see injustice. I see that most will never understand morals and ethics.
Posted 3/30/11

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It's not that I don't see injustice. I see that most will never understand morals and ethics.
Something like all tiger moms should hunker-down and reflect upon the practical wisdom of slowness, 'less they're intended for war.
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I think the main issue regarding mental illness is the fact that it's rarely talked about, and still viewed by many as a shameful secret. The shame felt is symptomatic of many mental illnesses anyway, so the fact that other view it as something to be ashamed about just adds insult to injury. More is being done to combat this, but the world is still a cruel place and people choose to be bastards and not educate themselves.
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Well it's got a lot to do with humans' own cognitive limitation and biases, that's making us all kinda stupid and dumbfounded, in our own very predictable ways.


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Posted 4/5/11 , edited 4/6/11

Jezebellabean wrote:

I think the main issue regarding mental illness is the fact that it's rarely talked about, and still viewed by many as a shameful secret. The shame felt is symptomatic of many mental illnesses anyway, so the fact that other view it as something to be ashamed about just adds insult to injury. More is being done to combat this, but the world is still a cruel place and people choose to be bastards and not educate themselves.
I think the societal attitude of self-righteousness and the cultural practice of inequality also contribute to the formation of this social norms.


jerlinclancy wrote:

Well it's got a lot to do with humans' own cognitive limitation and biases, that's making us all kinda stupid and dumbfounded, in our own very predictable ways.


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Alcoholism is more of a cultural issue than an evolutionary biological one. Case in point, it was actually healthier to drink alcohol than water in the cities during the industrial revolution. Due to the pollutions caused by urban industrialization, and poor infrastructures and city planning among the working class.
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