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Anime sales in North America at an all-time low.
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http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-04-15/america-2009-anime-market-pegged-at-us$2.741-billion

Yup, what you're seeing is the truth. I'm personally shocked that sales were at their highest in 2003, but since it's a niche market, it doesn't come as too big of a surprise. Anime fandom is at an all-time high, but sales are at an all-time low. I blame pirating as it's now easier to pirate titles today than they were back in like 2005.
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Not surprise really with all the leeching and illegal downloading happening in todays world
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Exactly what I've been saying. People would much rather simply download a series to their computer than have it on a DVD and support the companies. If not, they'd rather spend like $25 on bootleg DVD box set that has like 26 episodes rather than spend like $45 on domestic, legit release that has like 13 episodes. The internet is wonderful thing, but it's also largely a part as to why anime is not selling well in the USA.
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MeidouZangetsuha83 wrote:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-04-15/america-2009-anime-market-pegged-at-us$2.741-billion

Yup, what you're seeing is the truth. I'm personally shocked that sales were at their highest in 2003, but since it's a niche market, it doesn't come as too big of a surprise. Anime fandom is at an all-time high, but sales are at an all-time low. I blame pirating as it's now easier to pirate titles today than they were back in like 2005.


see my post in the ann thread, same user. Also I only go for series that have no choice to get here or are never going to pick up the second season. If a series does get picked up "hayate the combat butler or lucky star" I will buy to show my support. Also I was pirating back in 2002 so don't go there just don't people don't want to buy shit is the problem. Anime like all mediums has it highs and lows and if nothing good gets picked up or exposure "the whole purpose of fan-subs" also you do know how cr started don't you? Nothing is going to happen calm down, funimation is already getting 2000 out me this year alone on bluray/dvd box-sets so I don't see anything happening. The only thing I do wish though is that the 'fans' or us had choice or could vote on what gets a domestic license for digital distribution , dvd and bluray. It's the fans that buy the stuff they shouldn't go buy what just the Japanese like "in total of sales for their dvd margin" in order to pick up a product. Two great anime series have been over looked because of this and I have imported on dvd/bluray and they are "kuernia and dennou coil". That's all I have to say on this subject, also funimation HURRY UP WITH RAIL-GUN AND INDEX

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Exactly what I've been saying. People would much rather simply download a series to their computer than have it on a DVD and support the companies. If not, they'd rather spend like $25 on bootleg DVD box set that has like 26 episodes rather than spend like $45 on domestic, legit release that has like 13 episodes. The internet is wonderful thing, but it's also largely a part as to why anime is not selling well in the USA.


good quailty dvd's from nisa, sentai, media blasters and funi>bootleg crap quality. this is because of the fact most anime is on dual layer dvd's now and boot legs are on single layer cutting down on the quailty and how it looks. I have ripped over 200 gigs of anime from my own personal collection alone believe me on this. Also I would pay a 100 dollars for card captor sakura on blu ray here rather than paying and no I shit you not 1,400 us dollars converted from yen plus tax and shipping on the whole series from japan. While blu ray rips are a nice option and my computer is above and beyond the call of duty to handle them I prefer watching it on my nice 42 in led 1080p TV or my 19 in monitor. I have never bought boot leg dvd's and never wil, downloading on the other hand... well "do you think i am really going to import kodomo no jikan?"

Edit sorry for the double post.
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Yep, it's the availability. Most series are available on websites like crunchyroll or youtube, or whatever, and while this may lead to more people liking anime, it won't necessarily increase the sales. Most people won't buy a long-ass series, even if they like it a lot. They can just go to crunchyroll, or youtube and rewatch it if they want to. They don't even have to download a pirate version of it.
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Yep, it's the availability. Most series are available on websites like crunchyroll or youtube, or whatever, and while this may lead to more people liking anime, it won't necessarily increase the sales. Most people won't buy a long-ass series, even if they like it a lot. They can just go to crunchyroll, or youtube and rewatch it if they want to. They don't even have to download a pirate version of it.


okay my last post for the thread there is one thing you should mention, while streaming does sway away even a hard core downloaded to come here, ann and anime network , even hulu there is such a thing as an internet cap. IF you have come cast, att or verzion look up what I am talking about. every time you stream you are "technically downloading a signal of the show" and those who have caps that uses up a certain chunk of the amount of band width your allowed to use. so say you have 250 gig cap, i can go through that easy in month and for each additional gig they add more charges on top of that to your internet bill. Now I don't have cap since I live in small state and in rural area but for those that do, what do you think they are going to do?
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MeidouZangetsuha83 wrote:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-04-15/america-2009-anime-market-pegged-at-us$2.741-billion
I blame pirating as it's now easier to pirate titles today than they were back in like 2005.


People like to blame fansubbing because it's an easy scapegoat but seriously, that's almost complete bs. The vast majority of fans wouldn't pay even if that was the only option and for multiple reasons including, bad economy so people have less disposable income and, much of the imported/fansub anime isn't worth buying.

Anime is a bigger market in Japan mainly because, it actually gets network broadcast revenue. That's a difficult sell in the US because of cultural sensitivities as well as the fact that it's a niche target audience that doesn't generally have much disposable income. By cultural sensitivies, I mean anime similar to Kodomo no Jikan or Vampire Bund, which makes a large part of the Japanese market, would be received very unfavorably in the US. Thus, a huge segment of anime is just unmarketable here.

What the US market really needs is anime produced with a US audience in mind. Funimation could become huge if they'd just make an investment to build up a US based animation studio. No more paying license fees for anime that are basically a gamble, and no more having to worry about censoring imported anime to make it safe for US broadcast. This will make it easier to sell to the networks for mainstream timeslots and attract more buyers who actually can afford to buy anime and are more likely to as opposed to pirating.
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Posted 4/22/11
yup anime in USA is doomed i wonder if they will cease all dubs/all anime broadcasts in the USA
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Posted 4/25/11 , edited 4/25/11

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yup anime in USA is doomed i wonder if they will cease all dubs/all anime broadcasts in the USA


Oh, that's a load of bullshit if I've ever heard one.

It's the economy, DUH. EVERYTHING is suffering, clothes sales, book sales, movie sales, probably the only one that isn't is FOOD sales because people need to eat.

Think before you post, huh?


People like to blame fansubbing because it's an easy scapegoat but seriously, that's almost complete bs. The vast majority of fans wouldn't pay even if that was the only option and for multiple reasons including, bad economy so people have less disposable income and, much of the imported/fansub anime isn't worth buying.


THIS.

Although I can't speak this for myself. I've been buying anime dvds quite a bit after watching fansubs and plan to continue. EVEN THOUGH I'M POOR.
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Posted 4/25/11 , edited 4/25/11

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and? just look at how much anime is selling for its at an all time low they are desperate and looking at all the free anime host/download sites


Please learn how to type periods, commas, and capital letters because it will make others' brains hurt less when they try to read your posts. If you're 21, don't type like an 11-year-old n00b.


its not so much the economy its everyone ripping the animators off


Really? Do you have any proof? Fansubs and pirating have been going on since the NINETIES and the anime industry was booming in the early to mid 2000s.

It's definitely the economy!!

Just because the sales are low hardly means "anime in the USA will cease to exist", like you're stating. That's just ridiculous.

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Posted 4/25/11 , edited 4/25/11

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like hell i will its not hard to understand


Um...yes, it is. Run-on sentences are incredibly confusing. Are you really so lazy that you can't even hit the "Shift" key?


this is the internet not english class stay on topic


I don't care if it's the internet or not. If you type like an intelligent, educated person, people will take you more seriously. If you don't, they'll think you're stupid and not take you seriously. It's my advice to you.

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Posted 4/25/11 , edited 4/25/11

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this is the internet i think ur stupid and u seem to type like an "intelligent, educated person"


This is because I AM AN INTELLIGENT, EDUCATED PERSON. The stupid one is you because you can't even hit the damn Shift key or the period button, yet EVERYONE ELSE POSTING HERE IS DOING IT.
Even the little 13-year-olds do it!
Geeee it's sooooooo hard.


take my advice and STAY ON TOPIC


You obviously can't read because in every single post on here, I give my input on the anime industry problems.

LEARN TO READ.

lol

If fansubs are really to take a part of the blame, I say it's the "free" streaming sites that people can just go "click" and watch, NOT the fansubs themselves.

In the early to mid 2000s, fansubs were largely available through Bit torrent, there were no (or very few) free streaming sites and anime sales were quite high.

2008-now, the streaming sites pop up, people can watch whatever they want with one click, and now the sales are terrible.

I don't think that's any coincidence.

IT'S THE SITES. THE VIDEO STREAMING SITES NEED TO STOP. I bet if you shut every one of them down, it would give DVD sales a HUGE boost.
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Posted 4/25/11 , edited 4/25/11

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lol ur stupid for thinking that u need to use proper lang skills to be "intelligent" or "educated"... i dont care who uses the shift or periods just be grateful i dont use the super heavy leet speak. once again I CHOOSE NOT TO, we cant all be typists like u

every post? how bout this one?



sounded less like anime industry problems and more grammar nazi trolling

i dont remember ever saying fan subs were to blame i only said the free anime host/download sites were
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Posted 4/25/11 , edited 4/25/11

uhohimdeadlol ur stupid for thinking that u need to use proper lang skills to be "intelligent" or "educated"


Lol UR stupid because you don't realize that "need" and "seem like" are two different things.

Nobody is going to argue that typing properly will give off the impression that you are intelligent and educated better than typing very badly.


i dont remember ever saying fan subs were to blame i only said the free anime host/download sites were


Agreed, like I said, if people just shut down the host sites, we should see the industry begin to make a recovery.

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