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Posted Jan 27 2008, edited Apr 24 2008
It's not religion that start a war.. its the human who start war.. for their own greed for money,power or woman..!
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Posted Jan 28 2008, edited Apr 24 2008
^Totally agree.

LMAO actually I've been thinking some sort of things..
1 whole world know that jews hate islam, thats why you create stupid rumours and dumb stuff >_>
Mostly (if got 10 people, 9 of them) of the jews hear bad things about islam and they believe. They also see good things about islam but they assume that's fake. Believe in what you've seen but not what you have heard. For them, only in this world who create problems is muslim. They're religion are the most l337 and no one of them ever created any problems. You're one of the most stubborn pathetic people I've ever seen, stubborn disease are one of the incurable diseases Lol. =p
In human mind, once like you hate about something.. then no matter what you do you will still find a excuse to hate it. So no use in debating with them, GO ON MAKE YOUR UBER 1337 FAKE NEWS ABOUT OTHER RELIGION lmao. =P

Guys peace lmao, whether which religion correct.. we'll see after we died. So that time you can open you eye's and see properly. If you're in the wrong religion; you'll be rot in hell. If you're in the correct religion; you'll be enjoying at heaven (if you do everything accordingly to your religion though). We will support our own religion no matter what you have said so.. ahem, we're pretty wasting our time.

Believe any whatever shits, its up to you. There's no need to make load of big bullshits on proving who's correct and who's wrong. You'll get your answer when you're dead. =P
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Posted Jan 28 2008, edited Apr 24 2008

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I mean, humans as a species need religion, it gives them hope, for some a reason to keep living, it helps them explain the unexplainable, and allows them to not b so afraid of death.


I disagree. Many people (like me and, apparently, you) get along well without religion, so we are evidence of our species' ability to be self-sufficient, to remain functional even when such an institution is absent. In fact, I might even say that the best way for our species to ensure its survival is to begin to shed these wholly uncertain systems in favor of understandings based on evidence. Religion is holding us back in many parts of the world, and it certainly isn't helping where it isn't hindering anyway. Of course, when I speak of the species, I am rejecting the idea of the individual, though I do not think it is anyone's place to tell another what he may or may not think. I only bring this up to disagree, not to assert a personal theory of progress.

A world without religion would be neither as good nor as bad as people like to imagine. On one hand, religion is by no means the only force behind the problems of our world, and it could be easily replaced by another institution if it disappeared. On the other hand, religion is not the only source of hope and "morality." Losing religion would not mean losing the rules (the law still exists, and people are generally more fearful of that), nor would it send civilization into total despair. I would like to see a world without it, but that doesn't mean the world would be much better off, at least not at first.



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Posted Jan 28 2008, edited Apr 24 2008

Tagi-chan wrote:

as much as I believe that religion is the source of the majority of huge issues, i think it would get worse.

Everyone that believes in a religion has their faith as the basis of their life structure. Take away that base, and the rest falls apart.


And that, some would say, is precisely what needs to happen. When systems based on faulty foundations fall apart, there is finally the potential to build something stronger and more effective. Religion would not be the first institution whose collapse caused chaos, so I believe that people can move on. That optimism, however, is greatly tempered by the fact that many people need to be told what to do, so one can be sure that another system would take religion's place in controlling the masses.
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Posted Jan 28 2008, edited Apr 24 2008

Regulus133 wrote:


saiyukilover wrote:

I mean, humans as a species need religion, it gives them hope, for some a reason to keep living, it helps them explain the unexplainable, and allows them to not b so afraid of death.


I disagree. Many people (like me and, apparently, you) get along well without religion, so we are evidence of our species' ability to be self-sufficient, to remain functional even when such an institution is absent.



You're really not disagreeing, I never said there weren't exceptions to the rule. Every species has a few that go against the flow. I mean, I myself am the exact opposite of my description. I'm not afraid of death, I think people who only live for their religions are stupid, I don't need an explanation, and there's nothing to hope for. Being that, I knew there were exceoptions I was just making a generalization. And, there are a lot of people that can't get along w/o their religion, I live with 3 people who simply need it. The thing to remember here is: What's good for one person would kill the person sitting next to them. Some people simply have it, some have a desperate need for it, and some would rather be without it. It's as simple as that. That's why I don't think there should be a world without religion - it's better to give people that choice rather than deny them completely.

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Posted Jan 28 2008, edited Apr 24 2008

saiyukilover wrote:

What's good for one person would kill the person sitting next to them. Some people simply have it, some have a desperate need for it, and some would rather be without it. It's as simple as that. That's why I don't think there should be a world without religion - it's better to give people that choice rather than deny them completely.



But that's precisely what I'm saying. If religion disappeared, of course there would be some who couldn't deal with it, but there would be no choice after that generation. We'd be left with those who do not need it, those who could not hold us back because of it.

You said that our species needs it, which I assumed (fairly, I should add) was an assertion that to be human is, generally speaking, to require religion. Apparently I misunderstood, since it seems you only mean we need it at the present moment. I am only saying that it does not need to be that way.

I speak of progress of the species vs. freedom of the individual, and I tend to agree that it is better to give people the choice rather than deny them completely. On the other hand, a small part of me has a desire for a world of unified thought even if it means the destruction of freedom. It is, of course, just an ideal (though I'm fairly certain it won't always be, given how our technology is advancing) that embodies the very issue of what is valuable and desirable in life, but it comes to me precisely because I see no reason to exist if I am not happy.

Anyway, you're right - we don't disagree. I just wanted to clarify.

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Posted Jan 28 2008, edited Apr 24 2008
without religion....the world would be in chaos....humans will believe that they the greatest being ever...and they start doing verything they like... besides if there's no religion in the first place...our current world will never exist... we might never wear clothes and think its ok...because animals also dont...

Also you cant take away religion at the present time.... we all are already influence by it....so theres no point talking.... try thinking if theres no religion to start with... even so, people that lived decades2 ago also worships trees, rocks, sun and other stuff... its because they wanted to believe theres a higher being than them... that humans are only a temporary being in this world. If you say no religion is good....then you're an ignorant SOB. You believe there are no greater power than yourself..... humans cant even fly with airplanes, basically humans cant do anything without technology....

You even say all is scientific and evolution and stuff...but have anyone seen the evolution process??? all scientis only assume the evolution...but never seen it... hell im not from the monkeys... and i can assure u that....

The only problem lies here is not the religion...but humans who have free will...they choose wether to do good or bad... religion is ONLY a guideline...we choose what desicion to make... we are only pawns in this world.

if theres no religion, you are living like an empty shell without any purpose...

well, i have lots more to say but i think thats it for now....its only my opinion...im sorry if i offend anyone
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Posted Jan 28 2008, edited Apr 24 2008
Then there will be two ways to go

Humans= animals
Humans= God

The whole reason religion came along in the first place is because humans will always see themselves as better than animals so once there is no God humans will strive to be gods. To be all knowing, to live eternally, to be in control of the whole universe and it's galaxies and to be above all living things.

Most likely we will bump into a superior alien race which will kick us back in our place like the animals that we are
or we get wiped out by a huge natural disaster.
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Posted Jan 28 2008, edited Apr 24 2008
Maybe their will power may be weak and people will not believe themselves? Or it may be the opposite too through the years to come...
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Posted Jan 28 2008, edited Apr 24 2008
Can someone tell me more detail about sciencetology
why people against them
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Posted Jan 28 2008, edited Apr 24 2008
A world without religion...Humm, never though of that. =P

But in a sense, this may seem like a good idea; it probably wouldn't work out.

its in "some" of our nature to control others and "some" of us have the nature of "being" controlled. Religion was once a great way to bring people tougher and whatnot. Not that religion is a completely good thing, it have its up and downs. Some religion teaches good things and some don't. They teach people their way of life they teach people their sayings. But there's rules for some people to follow due to they're some kind of religion or another. and with those rules; they may make this world a better world.

without religion people may be out of control though i don't really think its possible for us- humans, to have a religion-free world even if we were religion free in the crack of time. 'cause as time goes on, people will start to make up things so they can have things over another person e.g: power/Money/gold/Land. and/or just to make them "better"

or to be able to "judge" others. thus religion comes in the picture.
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Posted Jan 28 2008, edited Apr 24 2008
A world without religion is theoretically impossible. Humans naturally cling to eachother in order to explain there own purpose in life. That is what intelligence is, a search for meaning. If all modern religion were to be abolished, and all believers irradicated, it would make no difference. Eventually, the new generations would try to find a meaning to their lives, and in that search, create religion. Thats how religion began in the first place.
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Posted Jan 28 2008, edited Apr 24 2008

kimshadoway wrote:

Can someone tell me more detail about sciencetology
why people against them


because sciencetology was based off a friction book and now it is use to scam people's money.
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Posted Jan 28 2008, edited Apr 24 2008
it would probably create less wars and genocides Image
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it would probably create less wars and genocides Image
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