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Well, it's probably a question that you've heard before. The Bible says that Jesus, with the power of God, has helped a lot of people. And people are still miraculously cured from uncurable diseases. But it doesn't matter how much you pray for someone who lost his leg. It won't grow back.

I'd like to hear your views on this. Why won't God heal amputees?
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Posted 1/14/08 , edited 4/18/08
Hey, if I want to come here to bash them, let me!

No, seriously, I'd like to hear it from christian people. But well, yes, I can understand that they don't like the things I say here. There are already enough threads about religion in the general forum. CR isn't all about religion, you know. So that probably won't be a good idea.

Well, I completely understand it if this gets locked or anything. But I just.. would like to know what christian people think about it.
Posted 1/14/08 , edited 4/18/08
Thank you Magnus for respecting Faeleia's wishes. I think this is a perfectly fine question to ask.

I don't have the answer to everything. But in the bible we've read this:

Matthew 17:14-20
14When they came to the crowd, a man approached Jesus and knelt before him. 15"Lord, have mercy on my son," he said. "He has seizures and is suffering greatly. He often falls into the fire or into the water. 16I brought him to your disciples, but they could not heal him."
17"O unbelieving and perverse generation," Jesus replied, "how long shall I stay with you? How long shall I put up with you? Bring the boy here to me." 18Jesus rebuked the demon, and it came out of the boy, and he was healed from that moment.
19Then the disciples came to Jesus in private and asked, "Why couldn't we drive it out?"
20He replied, "Because you have so little faith. I tell you the truth, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there' and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you."

Honestly, I believe if someone actually was strong in their faith, they could pray for their arm to grow back, and it could grow back. But no christian is that strong, I don't think any christian could pray for their arm to grow back without doubt. With God, nothing is impossible, but if you can't find faith in Him, how can He answer your prayer?
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Posted 1/14/08 , edited 4/18/08
In the Bible says that God will grant your prayers if you really believe in him and stuff.

But no matter how many people pray for an amputee, no matter how sincere they were, no matter how pure their faith is.. Limbs won't grow back.

Are amputees worth less than people with cancer? Because people say that God does, in fact, heal cancer at times. God has never healed an amputee. It's not like people who pray for someone with cancer pray better or more sincere. It's not like their faith is stronger.
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It's not that they're worth less than people with cancer, in fact, there are a lot of people who have cancer that God doesn't heal. Why is this? We don't know for sure. Was it lack of faith? Who knows. As I said, I don't know everything, but I trust that God has complete control over everything. I trust that God loves us, and that God is stronger than anything we will face. Because of my faith in God, I trust there's a reason. I'm sorry I can't give you a clear answer.
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^ Mmhm, God has complete control over everything. He knows what's best for us. God doesn't grant prayers, but He'll always answer them. God has the freedom to answer no.


I disagree with lumiina that you have to be a strong Christian for such things to work. It'll be putting those who haven't even received Christ yet as jumping the ladder if they are healed. Our faith is required, but not the determinant of whether it works or not.
I never meant you had to be a strong Christian. What I meant was that you had to actually have some faith in God, like the verse said, faith as small as a mustard seed. And I'm not saying just because you have faith you'll get whatever you pray for, I meant that if you have the smallest amount of faith, God will answer your prayer.

However, your post has made me change my mind a bit. I guess there could be some people who have sincere faith that God will make their arm grow back. It's not their lack of faith that causes it not to grow back, it's that God has something else in store for them. He has complete control over the situation.
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Posted 1/14/08 , edited 4/18/08
I have made a long reply to that, and unfortunately, it has been deleted accidentally because my computer hung before I posted it. If I have time I'll post it up at night. But I assure you, it's a satisfactory answer to your question.

OK, crap, I'll speed type.

God hears our prayers regardless. I disagree with lumiina that you have to be a strong Christian for such things to work. It'll be putting those who haven't even received Christ yet as jumping the ladder if they are healed. Our faith is required, but not the determinant of whether it works or not. Jesus is the one we rely on for faith to activate blessings. Jesus is the one who is our intercessor at the right hand. God considers our requests, but only He would know what our reactions are, what is best in future, for us, having known what our whole life is like (our days are written in his book, page by page) God would do the best thing for us, and that is His Will, for one to come back to him, as well as for our own good.

Who would know but God if we would be miraculously healed and credit it to some fake idol and make use of his blessings for shame? Who but God can tell other people's reactions to that person who was healed. What if they call themselves decendents of Christ, reincarnate, and get themselves worshipped? Who can tell but God?

In all things God work for the good of those who love him and are called according to his purpose (Romans 8:28)

Sometimes God does not heal us because He wants to test our hearts.

I dont have time to quote it all, but it's in Matthew 13, parable of the sower, some seeds fell onto stones. It sprung up enthusiastically, but fell as soon as small trials approaches. God is a faith God, he wants us to rely on him, things that are unseen. Only when we apply our faith and declare his word that we also show him where our hearts stand. My pastor wanted babies, but for 6 years the wife was unable to conceive. On the seventh year, they received the harvest. But they've sown so many seeds that they are unable to stop the blessings. This is their 4th child, 3 years ago. The wife was pregnant everyyear. What do you think would happen if they stopped believing in the 6th year?

God is a faith god, he deals with unseen. If he does not heal amputees, it does not mean nothing is done. He heals hearts. Nick Vuijicic is one, 25 year old, speaks to many nations and hundreds of thousands are becoming hopeful as he talks to them. He is ever joyful, without limbs, struggled, knew what it was like, but God's love was abundant. Now he is one happy guy, first words are 'I love you!' cracks limb jokes. God can use you in your circumstances even if it does not change. For him, he's glad now God didn't repair his limbs, because if he can be truly happy without, what say other people WITH limbs but without joy?

Because of his condition, he now is able to be a powerful speaker, only age 25. Because of his condition, his messages speak more, as a living example. God could have healed him, but o ye of little faith, man needs to see for themselves before 'investing' in the idea of God.

I really need to go now, that post above was snipy, but the previous one (that was gone) was led by the spirit. the information has not changed regardless, just shortened to conform to time!
Posted 1/14/08 , edited 4/18/08
Because limbs don't pop out of nowhere. It would confuse the simple-minded people of Earth. They're healed anyway.
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God is a faith god, he deals with unseen. If he does not heal amputees, it does not mean nothing is done. He heals hearts. Nick Vuijicic is one, 25 year old, speaks to many nations and hundreds of thousands are becoming hopeful as he talks to them. He is ever joyful, without limbs, struggled, knew what it was like, but God's love was abundant. Now he is one happy guy, first words are 'I love you!' cracks limb jokes. God can use you in your circumstances even if it does not change. For him, he's glad now God didn't repair his limbs, because if he can be truly happy without, what say other people WITH limbs but without joy?

Because of his condition, he now is able to be a powerful speaker, only age 25. Because of his condition, his messages speak more, as a living example. God could have healed him, but o ye of little faith, man needs to see for themselves before 'investing' in the idea of God.

I really need to go now, that post above was snipy, but the previous one (that was gone) was led by the spirit. the information has not changed regardless, just shortened to conform to time!


Thanks for your reply!
I've seen that guy on tv, btw. He was really funny, he pretended to fall over and.. oh well, I guessed I missed the point.

Oh, and I actually stole the whole idea about this thread. And because it'd be odd if I'd translate my Bible to english (that'd be some messed up grammar) I'm going to copy some text. Now I don't want to dazzle you with amazing arguments, but yeah, I'll do it anyway. First I'm going to quote something about prayer.


How Prayer Works

For believers, it is obvious why so many prayers are answered. In the Bible, Jesus promises many times that he will answer our prayers. For example, in Matthew 7:7 Jesus says:

Ask, and it will be given you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For every one who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. Or what man of you, if his son asks him for bread, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a serpent? If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask him!
Ask and you will receive. What could be simpler than that?
In Matthew 17:20 Jesus reiterates that same message:

For truly, I say to you, if you have faith as a grain of mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move; and nothing will be impossible to you.
Since a mustard seed is a tiny inanimate object about the size of a grain of salt, it is easy to imagine that the faith of a mustard seed is fairly small. So, paraphrasing, what Jesus is saying is that if you have the tiniest bit of faith, you can move mountains.
Jesus says something similar in Matthew 21:21:

I tell you the truth, if you have faith and do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to the fig tree, but also you can say to this mountain, 'Go, throw yourself into the sea,' and it will be done. If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer.
The message is reiterated Mark 11:24:
Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.
In John chapter 14, verses 12 through 14, Jesus tells all of us just how easy prayer can be:
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in me will also do the works that I do; and greater works than these will he do, because I go to the Father. Whatever you ask in my name, I will do it, that the Father may be glorified in the Son; if you ask anything in my name, I will do it.
In Matthew 18:19 Jesus says it again:
Again I say to you, if two of you agree on earth about anything they ask, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
Jesus is actually in our midst and God answers our prayers.


So, prayer actually works. Great. Christians claim that God cures the most terrible diseases, such as cancer, every day. Well, then let's pray for an amputee!


God is all-powerful. Therefore, God can do anything, and regenerating a leg is trivial.

God is perfect, and he created the Bible, which is his perfect book. In the Bible, Jesus makes very specific statements about the power of prayer. Since Jesus is God, and God and the Bible are perfect, those statements should be true and accurate.

God is all-knowing and all-loving. He certainly knows about the plight of the amputee, and he loves this amputee very much.

God is ready and willing to answer your prayers no matter how big or small. All that you have to do is believe. He says it in multiple places in the Bible. Surely, with millions of people in the prayer circle, at least one of them will believe and the prayer will be answered.

God has no reason to discriminate against amputees. If he is answering millions of other prayers like Jeanna's every day, God should be answering the prayers of amputees too.
Nonetheless, the amputated legs are not going to regenerate.
What are we seeing here? It is not that God sometimes answers the prayers of amputees, and sometimes does not. Instead, in this situation there is a very clear line. God never answers the prayers of amputees. It would appear, to an unbiased observer, that God is singling out amputees and purposefully ignoring them.


And that's unfair. Faeleia said that sometimes, God just wants to test people. Then why is he picking on amputees? He cures cancer every now and then, but he NEVER EVER has healed an amputee. That's discrimination.

It's just, one of the most interesting questions in the world. I love it.
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^ lol, how is this discrimination? Since when can being an amputee compare with cancer? Cancer is a deadly disease that could kill. It causes terrible pain, mentally, and physically. Going through cancer I think it much worse then going through an amputation. Does that make the amputee's pain any less? No, but the amputee isn't going to die. God will comfort the amputee, give him peace. He'll get the amputee through what he is struggling with without even having to heal him. Both situations are bad, but God's love is so great.
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Posted 1/15/08 , edited 4/18/08
Here is a link that nicely explains your question. I've always emphasized, that God is a faith God.

And faith is not taking seeing to believe.

http://thegodenlightenment.wordpress.com/2007/06/17/question-1-why-wont-god-heal-amputees/
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Its not that he wont, its a deeper reason. God and Jesus do everything for a reason and let things happen for a reason. Take my father for example, he had a liver transplant the same week he probably would have died. My father was one of the lucky ones yes, but why? God could have let him die....but he didnt...why? he has his reasons and I cant question them ( I only said why to prove a point)....Don't get me wrong I am very happy that he saved my Dad, but what happened to the person who had to give that liver?

Its not going to spontaneously grow back after prayer, the bible even says that God works in mysterious ways...all that he does happens for a reason....All we have to do is believe in him and trust him and have faith from then on....My mother used to tell me that "God is not a sugar daddy" He wont just give you what you want on the spot and may never, it is all in the plan ^.^ (does any of this make sense? lol its getting late and it feels good to get this out :D)
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^ So who saved your fathers live? God or the doctors that rescued him?

I'm sorry, but God didn't invent liver transplants. It's unnatural. It's not a miracle, God should not be thanked. It would have been a miracle if a healthy liver would have just.. started growing back. But that didn't happen.
This might be taken really personal, well, sorry for it then. Don't mean it that way.

It's just that... people who can't walk because of a disease in their legs, are being cured by God. But people who can't walk because they have no legs are not being cured by God. It's not fair. God is able to grow back limbs. Why doesn't he do it?
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Posted 1/16/08 , edited 4/18/08
I dont take it personally, I know that everyone has their opinion and view and I respect that.

In the Bible day and age, it was accepted if a person just spontaneously regenerated or was able to see again. But now-a-days, if that were to happen it would basically be like saying the aliens are here. People would panic, the Christians would have proof of their faith, but what would happen to everyone else? I dont have all the answers, and I never will, but I just know, that if my father had died, it would have been for a reason that I cannot understand. I honestly believe that he was saved to help me in the future. And possibly even more than that, but I don't know.

When my father was sick, we had a prayer chain that eventually extended across the United States. We prayed for him everyday and at church. We honestly believed he was going to die. That week before he got his transplant we were assuming that he would. But it all payed off in the end. Now if he really did die, it doesn't mean that God isn't out there, it just means that it happened. Just like 9/11, and WW2, and everything else atrocious that we can think of. I know I am young and don't fully understand everything, but I have faith that someday I will.
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Posted 1/16/08 , edited 4/18/08
You know, God can say no. The power of prayer is amazing, but God's will is ultimate. Maybe it is God's will foe someone to be sick or be an amputee. God puts us thru trials to test our faith and make us better people, we can accept it and receive the grace of God, or we can woller in self pity and only get mad.

I do believe that God heals, but I don't think God is like some magical catalog that if you just pray hard enough you will get whatever you want. God has a reason for the times he says no, and it takes spiritual maturity to realize this and accept it, because if we do we will be rewarded in heaven, and God will give us grace thru our trials.

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