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Sougo Okita real age
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Posted 5/10/11 , edited 5/10/11
Many sites state that he's 18, but I always thought he looked too young to be really that age and there are a few hints that might prove this info uncorrect.
On the Shinsengumi flashbacks when everyone is shown younger but not exactly a little kid, Okita looks like a child and the age gap that's supposed to between him and the others doesn't seem right
Also I noticed that he never drinks alchool, at least I never seen him. At the beginning of the Otaku Tosshi arc for example, him and Hijikata are in a bar, and Okita isn't even having coffee but juice, which he sips with a straw in a quite childish way.
And we all know he's attracted to Kagura right... would an 18 year old boy really like a girl of around 13/14 who's body is still mostly of a child rather than a woman? 4 years difference is not that much, but during those years is like an eternity!
He also seems very clueless and immature about those kind of feelings, while a guy of 18 should have some experience already on that department, especially one as good looking as him.
Even Sacchan tells him to grow some hair down there and he's too young for her. And how old is Sachhan again... like 20/21
Besides, does he really look older than Shinpachi???
Overall I'd say he's not more than 16.
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Posted 5/11/11
Well technically in Japan, you become a full fledged adult at the age of 20 (that's when you're legally able to drink sake as well). It is concrete fact that Okita is 18 - Sorachi-sensei said so in one of the earlier volumes of Gintama (I even remember reading it). I just think Okita is childish by nature which is why he looks younger (and cute, lol) most of the time but when he is faced with those rare serious situations, he does show maturity (like in the Itou arc). The rest of the Shinsengumi members are in the their twenties - I daresay Hijikata is around 25-26 which would make sense in the flashbacks where Okita looked around 7-8ish and Hijikata then looked in his teens.

Sacchan's insult to him was just a hyperbole and besides, being 18 still means you're still a teenager so she has all the reason to say that to him to tease him/have a comeback.

Also, might I add that it is not said nor indicated anywhere in the manga nor anime that Okita is attracted to Kagura. They more or less have a rivalry-based relationship however, when the occasion arises, they do team up (though grudgingly) and fight together - that's their kind of relationship; it is not romantic. I do admit Okita x Kagura has a large fanbase because of the whole rivarly thing going on between them but it isn't canon in the manga nor anime (yet...maybe who knows, in a few years when Kagura blossoms into a fine woman, things might change, I mean, she was gorgeous as a 16 year old in the "2 years later" Gintama episode). XD
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Posted 5/19/11
Sadist made some good points there, just wanted to add that Okita is based on Okita Sōji from the real Shinsengumi way back, and to quote wiki on the age matter :
"Okita proved to be a prodigy; he mastered all the techniques and attained the Menkyo Kaiden scroll (license of total transmission) in the ryu at the age of eighteen or so".
He also died at a fairly young age from tuberculosis at the age of 25(the exact age is debatable from what i understand).

So it's a clear cut situation here. Sorachi wants to do a manga where the shinsengumi is involved, so he basically has to add all the people that are well recognized. The real okita was a child prodigy, so the gintama okita is also fairly young(and skilled) in comparison with the rest of the gintama shinsengumi.
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I always thought Sogo was 16, Kagura looks 14 and Sogo looks a little bit older than her.

Gintoki explains when the joi war started that he was still a baby (with photos of him wearing only an apron as he grows up lol). So Gintoki is about 21 and Hijikata seems to be a lot like him, my guess is he is roughly around Gins age. Toshi was a teenager when he was a country side samurai and Sogo was a little kid who can sit on kondos shoulders. I doubt he would only be 3 or 4 years younger than Toshi.

But i could be totally wrong, i don't remember if they mentioned how long after the 20 year war the series starts at or mentioning any ones exact age.
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His age of 18 makes sense, which police force would list a 16-year old as 1st Division Captain? 18 seems young too, but that's the age widely recognized as "adult". He may look younger, but don't you know people that look younger/older than their actual age?

To huck's point about "would an 18 year old really be attracted to a 14year old?" well, first the obligatory : there's no evidence that they like-like each other. second, that's not entirely uncommon. third, maybe he is not only a sadist, but a pedophile as well. Probably suits him well that the underage fangirl crowd adores him.
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InsaneWithAnInvertedi wrote:

His age of 18 makes sense, which police force would list a 16-year old as 1st Division Captain? 18 seems young too, but that's the age widely recognized as "adult". He may look younger, but don't you know people that look younger/older than their actual age?

To huck's point about "would an 18 year old really be attracted to a 14year old?" well, first the obligatory : there's no evidence that they like-like each other. second, that's not entirely uncommon. third, maybe he is not only a sadist, but a pedophile as well. Probably suits him well that the underage fangirl crowd adores him.



Actually in anime you get even younger people in charge of entire military forces, or be the chief pilots of the most advanced mecha etc, ect, so that's not really a good point and as already said (I think it was even you who said it) Okita is a child prodigy, so if he's a better swordman than let's say Yamazaki, why should Yamazaki be 1st Division Captain instead of him? Just because he's older?!

The fact that there's no evidence of his attraction towards Kagura COULD be right, but what about a few occasions when he referred to her as WOMAN? Even if he was a pedo, lolicons don't call the objects of their attention "women", they are fully aware that those are GIRLS, and very young indeed. But it would make sense if between them there were just a couple of years difference.

And on the Shinsengumi flashbacks, Kondo and Hijikata are shown as teenagers, probably 17/18, and don't they even look older then than Okita in present time??? I think they do!

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Actually in anime you get even younger people in charge of entire military forces, or be the chief pilots of the most advanced mecha etc, ect, so that's not really a good point and as already said (I think it was even you who said it) Okita is a child prodigy, so if he's a better swordman than let's say Yamazaki, why should Yamazaki be 1st Division Captain instead of him? Just because he's older?!

The fact that there's no evidence of his attraction towards Kagura COULD be right, but what about a few occasions when he referred to her as WOMAN? Even if he was a pedo, lolicons don't call the objects of their attention "women", they are fully aware that those are GIRLS, and very young indeed. But it would make sense if between them there were just a couple of years difference.

And on the Shinsengumi flashbacks, Kondo and Hijikata are shown as teenagers, probably 17/18, and don't they even look older then than Okita in present time??? I think they do!



yes, but not in gintama right? Neither the shogunate, the joi or any other organization employs children.
yes i said that the real okita was a prodigy, but from my perspective : no matter how skilled okita may be, the other policemen wouldn't listen to a 16-year old.

...i don't know what to say to the woman thing. i am just confused. Isn't that only the translation? Did he call other young females girls?

I'll take your word on the flashback thing.

Still the point remains : people can appear as older/younger than their actual age.
alternative a) Sorachi fucked up at the character design.
alternative b) Sorachi wanted a bishonen, and i can't recall any bishonen that look old

Gintama is not science, not everything has to make 100% sense
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Actually when Gin, Zura and Takasugi took part on the Joui war they were in their teens (16/17).
And anyway a 16 year old isn't really a CHILD!!

Have you ever seen how freaked out the Shinsengumi guys are of Okita? If he asked them to jump off a cliff they would, rather than end up in his sadist clutches! And he's a superior officer anyway, why wouldn't they listen to him? Because he's 16?
Tessa from FMP is a 15 year old girl who commands and entire submarine full of middle aged men as her subordinates.

He said "...that woman" regarding to Kagura on the beetle episode (65 maybe) and I think during another occasion too. Apart from Kagura there aren't many young girls in the show and they haven't really been in a scene with Okita, except for the sister of Shinpachi's pen pal, but he dragged her along chained like a pet during their "date" and I don't remember him referring to her at all.
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Posted 5/24/11 , edited 5/25/11
I do not think the age is a matter at hand here, in enrolling in the Shinsengumi. The whole point of this thread was how old Okita is. He is 18. It is a fact. Go read the Q and A section of volume 12 if you want to see it for yourself. Besides, although I did say that you become of age at 20, I meant contemporary Japan (I got that mixed up in post before so sorry about that). During the Edo period, you actually become of age at 16. I think Okita not drinking sake was just a personal choice.


He said "...that woman" regarding to Kagura on the beetle episode (65 maybe) and I think during another occasion too. Apart from Kagura there aren't many young girls in the show and they haven't really been in a scene with Okita, except for the sister of Shinpachi's pen pal, but he dragged her along chained like a pet during their "date" and I don't remember him referring to her at all


Yes, he did call Kagura ”女”a few times. Does that mean he's attracted to her? No, I strongly do not believe so. I think you're purely over-analysing things, sorry. Calling her a "woman" just emphases their rivalry; he is being condescending. It's like when people go, "woman, you've crossed the line!!!"
Perhaps, there is a chance for two to be involved romantically in the distant future when their age gap does not feel so big, who knows. But at this stage, no. At the present stage, Okita has not shown himself to be capable, nor interested, in handling romance.

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I didn't point out that he called her "woman" to prove that he's attracted to her, but the fact that even though she's very young he still used that term because he's very close to her age, so in his mind she's old enough to be called that. Ok, maybe I didn't really explained it well but I can give you an example: sometimes when young teenegers of opposite sex argue they say things like "shut up woman" or "stupid man". I've seen it many times. Even I've done it! Kids of that age don't think about themselves as kids.
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Well if you're saying that Okita sees Kagura as a woman, you could've used the time when Okita got smacked by Hijikata's harisen (and thereby protecting Kagura) and said, "Hijikata-san, I didn't want to see you hurting a woman" as an example, in the '2 year skip' mini-arc. ;P I think if Okita's to properly see Kagura as "woman", it would be when Kagura's at least 16. At the moment, it's a mixture of "brat" and "woman" (as in, "wtf are you doing, woman?!"). All I'm saying is that he's just not attracted to her romantically right now.
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I know there are many examples, I just picked the one that first came to my mind, and they all support my theory, which is not to prove Okita's attaraction towards Kagura, but that their age is closer than 4 years.
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I think in japanese, "woman" can also mean "girl" so when sogo says "Woman", it also means "Girl". "Onna" means, "girl/ female/woman/etc."

Not all 18 years old are experienced about romance and the like, I know there are many but not all. Every person is different and considering that he's a character created by an author, he probably wants sogo to be like that.

Sogo is not attracted to Kagura, he just thinks of her as a rival.

There are people who look younger than their own age even his sister looks younger than her own age so it must be in their genes.

On the Shinsengumi flashbacks let's say the age that time of Kondo is 20, Hijikata is 18 and Sogo is 11. On the present Gintama, Kondo is 30 something, Hijikata is 20+ something and Sogo is 18 but looks young. You may say that Sogo doesn't look 11 in the flashbacks but if he looks young at the age of 18, why can't he look young at the age of 11?

Also, what's wrong about not drinking alcohol at the age of 18? it's not like you're required to do that when you reach that age. Just because a lot of people do something, it doesn't mean all people are doing it/should do it.
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what's up with the "we obviously know he's attracted to kagura"?!?!?
hello??? he has other options!! (LIKE AHEM HIJIKATA)

anyways, sougo is 18. b/c hijikata is 20. sougo looks 2 years younger.
problem solved.

also, he couldn't be that young if he used to be a thug. dudes pretty badass okay...
badass kids, aren't seen that often, even if this is edo.
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I'm starting to like Okinobu = Okita x Nobume because I think Kagura is too young to pair.
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