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Be nice or shut up.
Posted 5/16/11
Is it me or is everyone becoming an asshole, and new generations in my opinion will become twice as bad.
Please excuse my topic title: Be nice or shut up, what I'm trying to say is if you haven't got anything nice to say then don't say it (of course that's unless it's constructive criticism or/and there's good reason for being harsh e.g. that person terrible/criminal/actions are taboo (e.g rapist, child molesters)

This topic isn't about me, I don't really care what people say about me, (I've been bullied so much I've become thick skinned) but wherever I go, which ever certain social network I go on *coughs* especially facebook and their hate groups*coughs* people are just become so hateful, negative and just become very asshole-like.

For example I do somethign wrong , morally wrong (yet not a legal wrong) we all make mistakes but everyone forgets we're not perfect and continue to be so nasty and shun people instead of helping them deal with it or give useful advice. If everyone was less of an asshole and more accepting of other and there for each other I'm sure we'd all be productive as a whole. No wonder why a lot of people these days are going into depression because I think people are feeling less appreciated. Or another consequence is, the more people resent me and unaccept me in society, the more I become a hateful person myself yet no one realises that consequence, and I swear half the tiem they're like that because they want to look cool or be funny (or jealous? maybe they're taking their shit out on them) Why can't we Treat people as you would like people to treat you.

Or another example, a person acts the way he is and finds it dificult to change (e.gthey're socially awkward or just have problems interacting with someone) and a group approaches him and tries to get to know him, they find out the way he is and because of this they don't want to talk to him and try to avoid him. Instead of this why can't they help him change and make him feel included?

Conclusion
All I'm trying to suggest is, if we all treated people as we like to be treated ourselves and we continue being there for each other when somethings wrong having one another's backs we'd actually become a more happier and productive society. [Im not talking about shit like lending money or things, I'm talking about giving helpful advice, constructive criticism-even if it you have to be blunt and straightfoward-rather than just being an asshole about it]
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Posted 5/16/11
That is a very idealistic view and trust me, I totally wish it could become true but it's just not realistic.

Not everyone gets along with each other. Personalities clash or don't match, people get on each other's nerves or annoy each other, etc., so not everyone is going to like each other or want to be friends and rightly so. Although I do agree with you on your point which is more of... If you don't like someone, just don't talk trash about them. Simple as that. Why make someone feel low? It could lead to really bad consequences. If you don't like someone just ignore them; don't spread rumors and leave them alone. That is the problem I have with teenagers is that they can't shut up about each other.

And it seems that youth nowadays is just getting worse. I remember shaking my head at the freshmen when I was in high school. They were just lowlife "thugs" or 14-year old girls dressed like they were going out to a bar or something. Geez.
Posted 5/16/11
totally agree, i think some people just don't know when to shut up sometimes and maybe that's why we get incidents like columbine. i can relate with victims cause i used to be one. but's made me me stronger as a person. i think the issue is immaturity, people just run their mouths off without thinking of how words/ hate- however you want to put it, can devastate people
Posted 5/16/11 , edited 5/16/11
^ I concur. X-Intercept pretty much said it all. People clash or they're not up to the job of helping someone out.
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Posted 5/16/11
Most people feel they can be as bad as thay want as long as they're not as bad as so and so. Too many teenagers want drama so, they talk so much about people they supposedly don't like (even though they dont actually know them). Its sad how long they spend finding faults in someone instead of being productive or at least minding their own beeswax.
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Posted 5/16/11
Hilariously enough, people are nicer in this era than they've ever been.

Do you know what happened to you if you were different in the sixteenth century? Torture. Mutilation. Death. Even as early as the 19th century, women involved in the Communards (look that up, if you don't know what it is) who were fighting for rights and food to feed their children, were branded as unnatural for engaging in protests and executed, lambasted, and arrested for their actions. If you held socialist opinions in the fifties, you would be shunned by your co-workers, friends, and community and you could be arrested. The further back you go, the more extreme the actions taken against those branded as 'different' becomes. Ancient life wasn't very nice either, only instead of science, they tended to rely on superstition as an excuse to strike out against their neighbor.

This is human nature, and it isn't pretty. We're still like this, the only difference is that it's LESS acceptable to kill people in this day and age, so we're left with angry comments, letter writing and protests. I'm not offended when someone says they hate me, because at least they don't have a gun in their hand, or the power of ages past to send me to the guillotine for being 'unnatural'.
Posted 5/16/11
People are just selfish these days. I've had so many asshole experiences in my life, and I'm only 19!! It is sickening, some of the things should only be experienced by adults 20 years into their working life -__-

You MUST stick up for yourself! Nobody walks all over you, its as simple as that. What gives people the right to do that? Just be brave, don't overdo it, but just know your rights and make sure they know them too.

It would be a better world if people were considerate, respectful, not judgmental and selfless. That is asking a lot though, so I'll just go through life telling people like that to go FUCK themselves.
Posted 5/16/11
I'd have to chuckle just thinking how many even bother with such while out driving.
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Posted 5/16/11
I think you're basing things in part on the internet. Anonymity and the lack of true human communication. (the text of the message is about 5% of what is actually communicated in face to face conversations) seem to breed a kind of special nastiness on the net.

I also think it's true that younger generations have had it easier and are more spoiled than later ones. My Parents were children of the depression. The Baby Boomers had no idea what that meant and wanted their utopia now. Generation X had more wealth and options compared to the Baby Boomers and took forever to figure out what they wanted from life. Now generation X is old enough that some of them are probably having grandkids...

Most under 18s I meet these days have a sense of invulnerability and entitlement that I find hard to imagine. somehow our enlightened parenting and school systems are creating kids who appear think everything will be handed to them on a platter and that nothing they do is their own fault.

as for treating others like one wants to be treated. Some variant of that is one of the core rules of almost every major religion in the world. Yet somehow I don't see religion being a source of amity and unity.

My own solution is often just to shrug and walk away. the spoiled and self centred of the world aren't worth the energy involved in even swearing at.

Posted 5/16/11
Nice wishy washy rant.

Telling people to shut up isn't nice in and of itself, so the point you are attempting to make is rendered useless.

Hypocrisy anyone? Sometimes, it is best to just ignore all these people you perceive as being rude until they direct something towards you, giving you the right to defend yourself.

But that too has a touch of hypocrisy in it. Some people shouldn't be allowed to defend themselves, or should they? Who cares?
Posted 5/16/11 , edited 5/16/11

Sonovabitch wrote:

Nice wishy washy rant.

Telling people to shut up isn't nice in and of itself, so the point you are attempting to make is rendered useless.

Hypocrisy anyone? Sometimes, it is best to just ignore all these people you perceive as being rude until they direct something towards you, giving you the right to defend yourself.

But that too has a touch of hypocrisy in it. Some people shouldn't be allowed to defend themselves, or should they? Who cares?


I really couldn't come up with a good enough title that would draw attention, I swear that's the troof.

But yeah it is hypocritical.


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Posted 5/16/11

Han_Solo wrote:

Is it me or is everyone becoming an asshole, and new generations in my opinion will become twice as bad.
Please excuse my topic title: Be nice or shut up, what I'm trying to say is if you haven't got anything nice to say then don't say it (of course that's unless it's constructive criticism or/and there's good reason for being harsh e.g. that person terrible/criminal/actions are taboo (e.g rapist, child molesters)

This topic isn't about me, I don't really care what people say about me, (I've been bullied so much I've become thick skinned) but wherever I go, which ever certain social network I go on *coughs* especially facebook and their hate groups*coughs* people are just become so hateful, negative and just become very asshole-like.

For example I do somethign wrong , morally wrong (yet not a legal wrong) we all make mistakes but everyone forgets we're not perfect and continue to be so nasty and shun people instead of helping them deal with it or give useful advice. If everyone was less of an asshole and more accepting of other and there for each other I'm sure we'd all be productive as a whole. No wonder why a lot of people these days are going into depression because I think people are feeling less appreciated. Or another consequence is, the more people resent me and unaccept me in society, the more I become a hateful person myself yet no one realises that consequence, and I swear half the tiem they're like that because they want to look cool or be funny (or jealous? maybe they're taking their shit out on them) Why can't we Treat people as you would like people to treat you.

Or another example, a person acts the way he is and finds it dificult to change (e.gthey're socially awkward or just have problems interacting with someone) and a group approaches him and tries to get to know him, they find out the way he is and because of this they don't want to talk to him and try to avoid him. Instead of this why can't they help him change and make him feel included?

Conclusion
All I'm trying to suggest is, if we all treated people as we like to be treated ourselves and we continue being there for each other when somethings wrong having one another's backs we'd actually become a more happier and productive society. [Im not talking about shit like lending money or things, I'm talking about giving helpful advice, constructive criticism-even if it you have to be blunt and straightfoward-rather than just being an asshole about it]


Touchy subject here. I agree with you though. The internet has so many jerks its not even funny anymore. Being completely anonymous simply means that everyone can be a jerk here and get away with it in real life. It sucks, but we can't do a thing to stop it. I can bet you that what jerks in the internet says, they won't even dare to say in real life. That's just who they are, hypocrites hiding behind a veil.

What we can do is to stop the hate. I quote from a 1995 movie La Haine, "hate breeds hate". I think that this is all we can do, stop the hate before you start spreading it yourself, and therefore fall to their level. Converting those jerks to your ideals is an almost impossible task. Believe me, I tried it, it doesn't work. Leave that job to the higher power (Whoever you higher power is).
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Posted 5/16/11
You know I'm on youtube quite a lot and always find some stupid comments I'm sure u notice as well...I dunno how peoples mind work so it's pretty useless for me to ask the question why...it goes to show nothing can be perfect with all these different types of people around
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Posted 5/16/11 , edited 5/16/11
And here I thought this new era of PC was making everyone too soft and "nice."
Posted 5/16/11
I'm not worried about it happening in the cyber world, its in real life that you wanna worry about it. When faced with an asshole, tell them "You are an asshole" they don't like hearing their own name and will explode!

Assholes on the road are just the worst type of asshole. You have to worry about these because they are potentially lethal, inconsiderate and careless drivers make my blood boil more than anything else. I actually had to pull over once to calm myself down, I was absolutely FUMING, this guy pulled out infront of me on a roundabout and its GIVE WAY TO THE RIGHT! I was coming from the right obviously, he didn't even look and he was doing about 50mph. I just stopped in time and slammed on the brakes, my horn was going nuts for ages trust me -__- fucking asshole. I would have absolutely punched him in the face several times if he hit me, that is if the dangerous speed limit he was doing didn't kill me first! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHR!!!! DRIVES ME NUTS!! Its the only time I ever flip my lid seriously, because it is SO dangerous.
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