Is it possible to create a truly Artificially Intelligent system?
Posted 5/22/11
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I, like i'm sure most people, have always been fascinated by the robots on TV and in stories (Bender from Futurama is a personal favourite)
Being an up-and-coming scientist, i've pondered whether it is actually possible to create a truly Intelligent system
The human brain is a marvel of nature, incredibly intricate, so much so that after hundreds of years of trying to understand it, we humans have barely even scratched the surface
The basis of human intelligence as I see it is the ability to 1) Observe, 2) Learn, 3) Predict
Agiven out technology will continue to improve, do you think it will ever be possible to replicate our own intelligence in a machine? Will it ever be possible to create a machine capable of the acts of intelligence i stated before?

Please feel free to give me your opinion (no Terminator or Matrix talk of machines destroying humanity please)
Here's my opinion:

I am beginning to doubt it. I've done some reading into neuroscience, and I've learnt that the human brain truly is one of the most complicated mechanisms in nature. Although I love to see what science comes up with, what new inventions or methods they bring to the table, I'm beginning to doubt that we can actually recreate our intelligence in a computer
Posted 5/22/11 , edited 5/22/11

The_Roy_42 wrote:

Read this post first please

I, like i'm sure most people, have always been fascinated by the robots on TV and in stories (Bender from Futurama is a personal favourite)
Being an up-and-coming scientist, i've pondered whether it is actually possible to create a truly Intelligent system
The human brain is a marvel of nature, incredibly intricate, so much so that after hundreds of years of trying to understand it, we humans have barely even scratched the surface
The basis of human intelligence as I see it is the ability to 1) Observe, 2) Learn, 3) Predict
Agiven out technology will continue to improve, do you think it will ever be possible to replicate our own intelligence in a machine? Will it ever be possible to create a machine capable of the acts of intelligence i stated before?

Please feel free to give me your opinion (no Terminator or Matrix talk of machines destroying humanity please)
Here's my opinion:

I am beginning to doubt it. I've done some reading into neuroscience, and I've learnt that the human brain truly is one of the most complicated mechanisms in nature. Although I love to see what science comes up with, what new inventions or methods they bring to the table, I'm beginning to doubt that we can actually recreate our intelligence in a computer
None of those abilities will be optimized to their full capacity, without proper stimulus in the form of constant socialization process. Because that's what the brain does; to integrate its development, by itself both subconsciously reacting and consciously interacting with its surroundings. It's within that process where human intelligence, or our mind, can truly exist within nature itself.

However, there's a gap within that process, and that's the problematic existence of human motivation/incentive. In other words, why would we as humans, want to be a part of this process at all for ourselves as individuals? To neglect this fundamental drive within the creation of an artificial intelligence, that's designed to emulate human intelligence, is to risk creating something inhumane. I call this the cultural software development of human meanings and values.

As for the technical development of physical hardware, that's relatively easier to solve than you would think. Due to the progress made in synthetic life research, stem cell transplantation, and the application of light-sensitive neurons, I would say you already have the technology to build the hardware you need. Through integrating bioengineering along with the latest development in personalized robotics that emulate empathy.

However, be careful when you get to fine tune the glial cells. Because when the glial cells are the ones that's causing the feedback loop, which is the same process that's also enabling the connectivity and plasticity of the human brain, when it comes to us being stimulated. Shouldn't we consider what's the natural environment that's ideal for these nerves to respond accordingly, especially when it comes to managing pain stimuli? In other words, could it be that our modern society had been neglecting the real psychosocial aspect of chronic pain? Simply because the general public had this bygone false positive belief of "no pain, no gain" culture.

Finally, once you managed to create just such advanced artificial intelligence, that can emulate the full spectrum of humanity. Then I would like to ask, in a world where synthetic humanity is a reality, why should we insist on existing in nature? When evolutionary speaking, humans as a specie would simply survive through technology, not natural selection.
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Posted 5/22/11
I think that in principle it could happen, the processing and storage capacity is almost certainly there. However, until someone understands exactly how our brains work I don't see how it could be implemented in a computer. The limitation will be the human programmer rather than the physical hardware.

If it were to happen, I suspect that it would work differently from the human brain and would be noticably non-human.
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I think it possible to create a truly artificial intelligence BUT it wont be perfect even the human brain isn't but i am sure one day we gonna see robot be able to learn, adapt and even think of their own the way they learned ^^
Posted 5/22/11
We humans have "imagination" that robots even with A.I. are unable to copy.
Not to mention, "guts."
Posted 5/22/11 , edited 5/23/11

maffoo wrote:

I think that in principle it could happen, the processing and storage capacity is almost certainly there. However, until someone understands exactly how our brains work I don't see how it could be implemented in a computer. The limitation will be the human programmer rather than the physical hardware.

If it were to happen, I suspect that it would work differently from the human brain and would be noticably non-human.
Well someone's producing some remarkable result, by applying your suggestion backward.


onibrotonel wrote:

We humans have "imagination" that robots even with A.I. are unable to copy.
Not to mention, "guts."
What's so imaginative about superstition and organized killing? It's pure made-beliefs that enabled us to kill as social animals.

As soon as your mind was set on the false positive superstition that someone deserves to die, then the will can transform into action through existing human institution, acting as agents of social control without moral oversight. That's how humans can become genocidal and murderous collective, just like any other social animals could in nature, starting from an idea that's nothing short of a dangerous meme, inside the minds of some mindless apes.
Posted 5/23/11

DomFortress wrote:


maffoo wrote:

I think that in principle it could happen, the processing and storage capacity is almost certainly there. However, until someone understands exactly how our brains work I don't see how it could be implemented in a computer. The limitation will be the human programmer rather than the physical hardware.

If it were to happen, I suspect that it would work differently from the human brain and would be noticably non-human.
Well someone's producing some remarkable result, by applying your suggestion backward.


onibrotonel wrote:

We humans have "imagination" that robots even with A.I. are unable to copy.
Not to mention, "guts."
What's so imaginative about superstition and organized killing? It's pure made-beliefs that enabled us to kill as social animals.

As soon as your mind was set on the false positive superstition that someone deserves to die, then the will can transform into action through existing human institution, acting as agents of social control without moral oversight. That's how humans can become genocidal and murderous collective, just like any other social animals could in nature, starting from an idea that's nothing short of a dangerous meme, inside the minds of some mindless apes.


sure. why not
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Posted 5/24/11
Haha this would've helped me a few months back. Basically I was given the same question and what DomFortress said would've really helped since it was so straight forward.

I would basically paste my whole essay here (It got me an A Yr12) but since I'm a noob and never save things on my computer, and always on USBs which I always lose I can't
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