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Lolicon -Lolita Complex..? What's your take ?
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Posted 6/5/11 , edited 6/6/11
Lolicon - is the romanization of a Japanese term that refers to the obsession of young girls, particularly in a sensual sense, and a mental disorder known as a "Lolita complex" that is a common motif in Japanese animation. It is a reference to the famous work by Vladimir Nabokov of the name "Lolita" and came into use in Japan after the translation of Russel Trainer's "The Lolita Complex" during the 1970s.

- First off... Lolita was the name of this girl in the book and a awesome performance by Jeremy Irons in the movie adaptation. STILL-- There is a little uneasiness that is inside my blood that makes me sick to my stomach.

Today was my first time getting a visual picture and I almost puked. I watched something that I wished I had not seen on a website I will not name, but it was a 3D anime and it was wrong on so many levels.


Why is this acceptable in Japan ? I know that without a form of this we would not have the epic Sailor Moon Series... I mean come on.. Serena was 14... Darin was 22... and this show was targeted to 20 year old men.. Not knocking the 20 year old Sailor Moon fans... but come on.. I mean... even Paranoia Agent had a scene.. and we will not go there with A-Kite or Mezzo Forte... we will just leave that alone.. I tricked my mind into blocking out all that was not part of the plot.

Anyway, I would like to know if any of you have an Anime Lolicon Complex ?

Meaning, If you enjoy the anime or manga that centers around it? Is it a little taboo for you or if the story is good (like A-kite..) You will just ignore it ?

Also, In my quest to find out why... I stumbled on a lolicon website that made the puke cometh..THIS IS SOOOOO WRONG. WHY WOULD HER PARENTS ALLOW THIS ??? She is not nude or anything, but her pose is disgusting..... And I thought Miley's Epic Vogue Cover was a Fail... I love you Japan , but sometimes I have to remind myself that I am not in love with you..[/b]
Posted 6/5/11
Pedophilia isn't my cup of tea and never will be. I won't exactly consider some silly infatuation with illustrated characters portrayed as being underage genuine pedophilia, but the implication of sexually objectifying minors in any way offends people, nonetheless.

In Japan, the age of consent is 13. In some other countries, children far younger are practically sold off at younger ages than that. Split hairs all you like, but when it comes down to it, a relatively weak person favors the vulnerability of a child.
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It's sort of creepy from a western point of view but i guess this kinda stuff in Japan is just accepted in manga and magazines and whatever else. The loli thing seems to go in two sides the more creepy sexual stuff and shows like Mitsudomoe which are aimed at older men but moreso at old lonely guys who never married and had kids. They love the kids in the show and cheer them on like they are their own children. This sort of thing also happens in child pop groups like Morning Musume which tend to contain a lot of young girls and most of their fanbase is men in their 30's and 40's


So yes parts of it are creepy but then Japan has a really low rate of child sexual abuse compared to the west so i guess all the creeps are getting it out of their system before they harm any kids over there.
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I knew about the hentai lolicon and the stuff in animes, but I didn't know that there were actual real life models for it. I don't honestly have a problem with it. If some guy in their 40s wants to get off with pictures of little girls then who am i to say that he is sick or messed up? It's just the way he is.


Besides there are some worse things that people could be in to...
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Those pictures shock and upset me as a mom, especially the last two. I want to throw up a little. I didn't know stuff like that was legal. I wonder if it's legal in the U.S.?

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I've never really cared too much one way or another about anime loli.

Real life pedophilia and viewing of children in a sexual way really hurts my heart and pisses me off a bit.
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this crap is just wrong. i stop at "Boku no Pico." everything after that like this stuff is epicly disturbing
Posted 6/5/11

MelodieLenora wrote:

Those pictures shock and upset me as a mom, especially the last two. I want to throw up a little. I didn't know stuff like that was legal. I wonder if it's legal in the U.S.?

:(

I've never really cared too much one way or another about anime loli.

Real life pedophilia and viewing of children in a sexual way really hurts my heart and pisses me off a bit.


Any image, whether real or not real, depicting sexual abuse of minors is illegal in the United States.
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Sonovabitch wrote:


MelodieLenora wrote:

Those pictures shock and upset me as a mom, especially the last two. I want to throw up a little. I didn't know stuff like that was legal. I wonder if it's legal in the U.S.?

:(

I've never really cared too much one way or another about anime loli.

Real life pedophilia and viewing of children in a sexual way really hurts my heart and pisses me off a bit.


Any image, whether real or not real, depicting sexual abuse of minors is illegal in the United States.


....still up for the courts to debate on each individual and if it's worth pressing charging. those pics that op posted links are actually agaisnt United states law as of now. Having a lolita complex means that you like short flat chested woman "which i do have sue me", but they usually have hips thighs etc to make up for looking like a child, pedophilia on the other hand is a sexual/physical attraction to anyone under the age of 13 that looks prepubescent. That's all i am going to say on this, There is also a thread in anime about about loli so post there.

http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-329618/lolicon-anyone-?pg=0
Posted 6/5/11
*Opens the first pic*
My reaction: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz9mp4lutkQ&feature=related

That pic sent a shiver down my spine. I didn't even know what it was gonna be.
Posted 6/5/11
That is just wrong. I don't understand how that stuff is legal over there.
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I was talking to someone from Asia and they were telling me about how grown men will wait outside primary schools for their 'girlfriends' to get out.

I think they are sick as fuck, but you can't choose what you are attracted to.
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Posted 6/5/11

ZenZaku wrote:

I knew about the hentai lolicon and the stuff in animes, but I didn't know that there were actual real life models for it. I don't honestly have a problem with it. If some guy in their 40s wants to get off with pictures of little girls then who am i to say that he is sick or messed up? It's just the way he is.


Besides there are some worse things that people could be in to...


Like What ? The 2 girls 1 cup thing was sick... but I thinking liking kids is worst.. well maybe.. it's on the same level..
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Han_Solo wrote:

*Opens the first pic*
My reaction: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz9mp4lutkQ&feature=related

That pic sent a shiver down my spine. I didn't even know what it was gonna be.


heh your not the only, those are called jiv " junior idol videos" where some junior idols get their start. what gets me the most is the fact these are still legal to sell in japan but then want to ban drawings instead. Gee I wonder where their main "focus" is at, aye.
Posted 6/5/11

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I was talking to someone from Asia and they were telling me about how grown men will wait outside primary schools for their 'girlfriends' to get out.

I think they are sick as fuck, but you can't choose what you are attracted to.


I think you can chose, and attraction may be based very much on someone's aesthetic tastes, weird or otherwise.
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killar wrote:

I was talking to someone from Asia and they were telling me about how grown men will wait outside primary schools for their 'girlfriends' to get out.

I think they are sick as fuck, but you can't choose what you are attracted to.


Primary School ? Isn't that our Elementary School Level ??

I want to be a mom someday.. and I would seriously hurt some grown man who is waiting for my child to get out of school.. I just do not understand it... nor do I want to... it's sick..

I watched that MSNBC To Catch A Predator and some of those guys are sick... not to mention the decoy they use is 20 something but could pass for a 10 year old. She is soo tiny and looks like a child...

One guy went on and on about young girls being cleaner then older girls...older meaning 14 and up. This guy was arrested again 2 weeks after for going after a 9 year old. I even met a guy, who I thought was great....however... it went south really quickly... he wanted a threesome with me and my then 14 year old sister... and he went on and on about incest and if he had a kid what he would do to her... Yea... that was the worst 1st date of my life...
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