Can Europeans view all the anime?
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Posted 6/12/11
Is much of the Anime licensed to US only? Or do I get full access to the anime from Europe? I know some of the dramas is licensed to US only.
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Posted 6/23/11 , edited 6/23/11
Well, I live in Denmark (Northern Europe/Scandinavia) and there's one so far I can't watch: 'Blue Exorcist' due to "licensing limitations". But I have hopes high that crunchyroll will work it out.


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Posted 6/25/11
In terms of priority, licensing in the site is geared more towards the USA/Canadian audiences. Most other licensing restrictions apply to everywhere else. In simpler words, if something isn't on this site, that's because it's not licensed for release in the USA, and an even higher chance that it's not licensed in your area, as well.

Practically speaking, I don't think it should matter to you what can be seen in the US and not in your country. To make things simple, whatever is available to view is already filtered based on your location, so what you see is what you get. What you don't see isn't available to you. That simple.
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edsamac wrote:
Practically speaking, I don't think it should matter to you what can be seen in the US and not in your country. To make things simple, whatever is available to view is already filtered based on your location, so what you see is what you get. What you don't see isn't available to you. That simple.


I might be misunderstanding you, but what do you mean it shouldn't matter what can be seen in the US and not in my own country? If the US gets to see 20 anime shows and I only get 3 shows (exaggerated example to prove a point) due to licensing issues, then I'm obviously not getting the same bang for my buck as the US people do.

To me it matters a lot and I believe it's a valid question the OP is coming with.
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Posted 7/2/11 , edited 7/2/11

randomiam wrote:

I might be misunderstanding you, but what do you mean it shouldn't matter what can be seen in the US and not in my own country? If the US gets to see 20 anime shows and I only get 3 shows (exaggerated example to prove a point) due to licensing issues, then I'm obviously not getting the same bang for my buck as the US people do.

To me it matters a lot and I believe it's a valid question the OP is coming with.


No, I meant exactly what I meant. It's not a question about bang for buck - it's about licensing restrictions. Whether you like it or not, those are the limitations, and since CR is first and foremost a US-based company, you can expect licensing restrictions to favor them over others. You can even think of it as a consolation that you even get to see any shows in the first place.

Plus, it's not even a question of what you pay for in the first place. You're not forced to pay to view content here - you only subscribe for simulcast services and removal of annoying ads - that's about it. When I said it doesn't matter - that means you don't really have to bother worrying about what shows in the states and what shows are only available to you, because that's just sourgraping. Click the show lists and whatever is available is all that's available to you - end of story. If you don't like the listing, you're free to go wherever you want to find whatever it is you want to watch - be it legal or otherwise. That's the sad truth, I'm afraid.
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Posted 7/2/11

edsamac wrote:

No, I meant exactly what I meant. It's not a question about bang for buck - it's about licensing restrictions. Whether you like it or not, those are the limitations, and since CR is first and foremost a US-based company, you can expect licensing restrictions to favor them over others. You can even think of it as a consolation that you even get to see any shows in the first place.

Plus, it's not even a question of what you pay for in the first place. You're not forced to pay to view content here - you only subscribe for simulcast services and removal of annoying ads - that's about it. When I said it doesn't matter - that means you don't really have to bother worrying about what shows in the states and what shows are only available to you, because that's just sourgraping. Click the show lists and whatever is available is all that's available to you - end of story. If you don't like the listing, you're free to go wherever you want to find whatever it is you want to watch - be it legal or otherwise. That's the sad truth, I'm afraid.


Touché. You make several good points; I don't agree with it all but it'll be difficult to argue.
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I know you wish to do your part to support the industry, but do not force yourself to suffer through a sub-optimal venue. As of right now you are far better off watching fan-subs, sooner or later CR will realize either A) If they wish to remain a US based website, simply block all forms of updates that do not pertain to that certain region, I mean it must be a kick in the face when you see a show you like being added, only to find out it will not be available in your arena, or Adjust the pricing for each region based on content.

Either one works, however (A) would seem to work better with edsamac's mind set, nothing you could do about, so simply grit your teeth and take it up the arse, or leave. Which seems to be counter productive with CR's long term goals.
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ColaKoala wrote:

I know you wish to do your part to support the industry, but do not force yourself to suffer through a sub-optimal venue. As of right now you are far better off watching fan-subs, sooner or later CR will realize either A) If they wish to remain a US based website, simply block all forms of updates that do not pertain to that certain region, I mean it must be a kick in the face when you see a show you like being added, only to find out it will not be available in your arena, or Adjust the pricing for each region based on content.

Either one works, however (A) would seem to work better with edsamac's mind set, nothing you could do about, so simply grit your teeth and take it up the arse, or leave. Which seems to be counter productive with CR's long term goals.


I don't mean to be quoted out of context, here. I was simply stating the current state of affairs. By no means am I endorsing or condoning people to download fansubs. What you do is your business, and for what reasons you do are solely to your discretion. What I meant to say with regard to region limitations is that the largest market for Anime besides Japan is America, and it follows that licensing limitations are granted to markets with a greater reach. Ergo, America will naturally have a larger list of shows available as compared to any other region - that's life.

Selectively picking what updates to show on the main page depending on the region is a little cumbersome if it's only meant to hide the truth from you. There are some people that may actually like seeing CR expand, even though the show won't be available in their area - probably because it gives them a little hope that, soon, the said show will become available in their area, as well. Practicality aside, I see why you may want to filter news updates on new releases - but again, it's a matter of personal preference on a user basis.

As for price adjusting, that makes no sense. You can't buy your way past a licensing restriction, and converting payments based on regional rates is just too complicated to factor in, because all returns for any company will still be in its currency of origin - which for CR's case is USD.

I understand your points, but they're a little too complicated for what little gains it can give to the CR community, as a whole. For those outside the US (me included), you'll just have to suck up to the fact that that's how this site works. They can't (and won't) bend a knee just to get you whatever it is you want. And similarly, you can't (and shouldn't) force what you want on them because CR is already stretching a neck out to try and bring the content to you, albeit a slow and tedious process.

So all I can say is wait and hope. Until then, you're left to your own devices as far as watching shows that don't show here are concerned - and by that, I don't (again) condone acts of piracy. Let the record be set straight.
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Posted 7/8/11

edsamac wrote:


ColaKoala wrote:

I know you wish to do your part to support the industry, but do not force yourself to suffer through a sub-optimal venue. As of right now you are far better off watching fan-subs, sooner or later CR will realize either A) If they wish to remain a US based website, simply block all forms of updates that do not pertain to that certain region, I mean it must be a kick in the face when you see a show you like being added, only to find out it will not be available in your arena, or Adjust the pricing for each region based on content.

Either one works, however (A) would seem to work better with edsamac's mind set, nothing you could do about, so simply grit your teeth and take it up the arse, or leave. Which seems to be counter productive with CR's long term goals.


I don't mean to be quoted out of context, here. I was simply stating the current state of affairs. By no means am I endorsing or condoning people to download fansubs. What you do is your business, and for what reasons you do are solely to your discretion. What I meant to say with regard to region limitations is that the largest market for Anime besides Japan is America, and it follows that licensing limitations are granted to markets with a greater reach. Ergo, America will naturally have a larger list of shows available as compared to any other region - that's life.

Selectively picking what updates to show on the main page depending on the region is a little cumbersome if it's only meant to hide the truth from you. There are some people that may actually like seeing CR expand, even though the show won't be available in their area - probably because it gives them a little hope that, soon, the said show will become available in their area, as well. Practicality aside, I see why you may want to filter news updates on new releases - but again, it's a matter of personal preference on a user basis.

As for price adjusting, that makes no sense. You can't buy your way past a licensing restriction, and converting payments based on regional rates is just too complicated to factor in, because all returns for any company will still be in its currency of origin - which for CR's case is USD.

I understand your points, but they're a little too complicated for what little gains it can give to the CR community, as a whole. For those outside the US (me included), you'll just have to suck up to the fact that that's how this site works. They can't (and won't) bend a knee just to get you whatever it is you want. And similarly, you can't (and shouldn't) force what you want on them because CR is already stretching a neck out to try and bring the content to you, albeit a slow and tedious process.

So all I can say is wait and hope. Until then, you're left to your own devices as far as watching shows that don't show here are concerned - and by that, I don't (again) condone acts of piracy. Let the record be set straight.


Good point until now. Now, CR don't even bother licensing Summer anime titles for UK and Asia. In the past it is acceptable if one or four shows are not available but the current lineup is just nonsense. Right now its not even worth getting Premium membership based on the titles that are offered outside US. Hope CR doesn't become the next Hulu. Back to fansubs
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SOrry to ride on the coattails of this thread but I dn't have enough points to make my own. When I look at anime I get this message:


The listings below are for display purposes only. Most anime videos are not available in Japan.


but then under in the list is also says


View anime titles alphabetically, by popularity, by genre or season. We only display titles that are available in your region.


My thing is I can you please make the latter true for us users in Japan. Basically anything I click on I can't watch and I'm tired of wading through dozens of titles trying to find something that works.
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Posted 7/9/11

SlamDunk_ wrote:

My thing is I can you please make the latter true for us users in Japan. Basically anything I click on I can't watch and I'm tired of wading through dozens of titles trying to find something that works.


This has been discussed in the past, but I'll give you a brief explanation here.

The reason why viewing privileges CANNOT be granted for Japan users is because it will conflict with local (Japanese) broadcasting rights. To take the corporate mumbo jumbo off your hands, it means CR can't show the shows within Japan because there are already local networks showing the shows to begin with.

The difference here is that CR is on-demand, while Japanese broadcasters have a schedule. All the more this will cause a monopolizing effect for people to stop watching on the telly - and this is bad business, in general.
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Posted 7/9/11

edsamac wrote:
The reason why viewing privileges CANNOT be granted for Japan users is because it will conflict with local (Japanese) broadcasting rights. To take the corporate mumbo jumbo off your hands, it means CR can't show the shows within Japan because there are already local networks showing the shows to begin with..

I believe SlamDunk_ understands that, but simply wants the list of anime to reflect what (isn't) available when viewed, just as it does for those in other countries.

For example, someone viewing the anime list from the UK supposedly do not see any anime licensed not licensed for the UK.

Meanwhile, those in Japan apparently see the same list as those in the United States.

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Posted 7/12/11 , edited 7/12/11

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edsamac wrote:
The reason why viewing privileges CANNOT be granted for Japan users is because it will conflict with local (Japanese) broadcasting rights. To take the corporate mumbo jumbo off your hands, it means CR can't show the shows within Japan because there are already local networks showing the shows to begin with..

I believe SlamDunk_ understands that, but simply wants the list of anime to reflect what (isn't) available when viewed, just as it does for those in other countries.

For example, someone viewing the anime list from the UK supposedly do not see any anime licensed not licensed for the UK.

Meanwhile, those in Japan apparently see the same list as those in the United States.



yes the ancient one is right. I can still see all of the titles even though I cannot watch them. that was my concern
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