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Posted 6/15/11
i wanna be the dust of a dying star one day i guess it wil take ages of time to experience why it does even matter at all that we exist since at 1st impressions means nothing at all
Posted 6/15/11 , edited 6/15/11
Nice one opener.

As if mathematicians would think that way.

No matter how small ( 1 out of trillions of quadrillions) the existence, someone who deals with numbers would recognize it.
Posted 6/15/11
I think you mean "Do you" not "if you".


Honestly I don't care. Whether or not we exist is irrelevant to me, because I chose for it to be. I just don't want to spend time on something that won't yield an answer like I'd want it to; which is why I prefer the preferably small 'tasks' like translation and beating videogames. Are we really insignificant? I'm not answering that because I think its kind of.... weird. Isn't Earth important, aren't humans important, despite us being significant as cockroaches on the universal scale?

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Posted 6/15/11
not sure about that, actually
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Posted 6/15/11
Shizu-chan exists.
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Posted 6/15/11

tgislayer wrote:
Im a mathematician you see


No you aren't, or you wouldn't be asking.
Posted 6/15/11

varnlestoff wrote:

I think, therefore I am.


I knew someone would have already mentioned it. So I'll just nod and agree.
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Posted 6/15/11
Do we exist?
I'm going to say that we do. I have put thought into this on several other occasions and have ended up with some pretty serious headaches before i gave up.

In comparison to the rest of the universe we are too small to be of any note.
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Posted 6/15/11

tgislayer wrote:

If you think of us (the earth) in terms of how infinitesimally large the universe is and how infinitesemally small we are in comparison, Do we really exist?
Im a mathematician you see and if you can consider how much area the earth takes and compare it to the infinite area of space, we are technically nothing. Do you agree?



no I think the weight of humans, animals etc is moving the earth down 1m every 500 years

Posted 6/15/11 , edited 6/15/11

Sonovabitch wrote:


varnlestoff wrote:

I think, therefore I am.


Descartes hilariously claimed this. However, regardless of one's ability to think, existence still is even without acknowledgment.

My response to the thread: Yes, we exist. Small as we are in comparison to the Universe, our material construction makes it so we are here, and once that is no longer the case, our existence is a thing of the past.


Hilarious...yeah. He is the man behind Solipsism after all. However absolute he may have been when using that quote. It's still good reasoning. It establishes extreme outward limitations to our perception. It gives perhaps the only real reason we can truly say we exist to begin with.

Either way, it's the best way to reason your own existence in a universe that just may be made up of a string vibration.
Posted 6/15/11


Reasoning yes, but existence takes place without any conscious awareness. If not some abstract concept created by an intelligent creature, instinct gives directive to justify existence. Perhaps we weren't meant to realize our being here. We likely know too much.
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Posted 6/15/11
we do! a number is still a number no matter how small or a persons a person no matter how small haha XD
Posted 6/16/11 , edited 6/16/11

Sonovabitch wrote:



Reasoning yes, but existence takes place without any conscious awareness. If not some abstract concept created by an intelligent creature, instinct gives directive to justify existence. Perhaps we weren't meant to realize our being here. We likely know too much.


Too much or too little? Was most likely irrelevant since before life on earth even began. We're a bunch of intrinsic observations who through different perceptions and variations of experiences, form differences. The only 'DEEP' question of life in which we all have down pat and know for sure is that when you drop dead, that outer host of skin and bone become useless to anything other than creatures and the land.

Which if you really think about it. That's a lot!

Posted 6/16/11


Then we have further excuses for existence being justified by the supposed idea of an afterlife. IMHO living in preparation for death is easily a symptom of a mental disorder. We can be here by right, and that begs a big question. Self-definition and validity through virtue of difference is part of our significance. Without that, it seems we couldn't be separated from a mass of carbon atoms. Idealistically, we exist for a reason. Practically, we exist to further our own survival and advancement.

We exist no matter the thoughts behind it. Even nothing is, in a manner of speaking, something.
Posted 6/16/11 , edited 6/16/11

Sonovabitch wrote:



Then we have further excuses for existence being justified by the supposed idea of an afterlife. IMHO living in preparation for death is easily a symptom of a mental disorder. We can be here by right, and that begs a big question. Self-definition and validity through virtue of difference is part of our significance. Without that, it seems we couldn't be separated from a mass of carbon atoms. Idealistically, we exist for a reason. Practically, we exist to further our own survival and advancement.

We exist no matter the thoughts behind it. Even nothing is, in a manner of speaking, something.


Yeah, that's what I love about it all. It's grand, yes. But only because we can see it that way and make it so. That isn't a BAD thing unless you see it as one. I think it's a definite weakness to constantly put all emphasis and views based on something that is an end point. Death shouldn't rule the living. It's annoying when people fail so hard to see the beauty of self enrichment and the solid ground we work with.

A lot of people can't handle reality so they clamor to something artificial like one of the tens of thousands of deities that have existed over the course of known humanity. Typically decent people in practice and often charitable, sure, but weak. Without an absolute insurance they are too weak to move on with life.
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